[xdriv3]

Looking at this beautiful X7 built with 22" staggered set up. I would love to trade down to the standard 21" rims for multiple reasons (cost, need AS).

How likely do you think the dealer can make it happen to complete the transaction?

I was told since it's tied to VIN, it probably can't happen.

As a compromised, I tried looking for AS RFTs. Tire rack only shows summer tires. None of the major chains show anything available. Even BMW's website show no compatible tires...

Any suggestions???

[crackerjack15]

I bet someone with 21's would trade you. Me personally, I purchased 19" aftermarket wheels/snow tires for the winter. imho, pure summer tires and snow tires give you the best of both worlds. But, I understand for people who live in milder climates and can get by with all seasons. Where I live, all seasons=no seasons.

[jmciver]

I hate to admit it, but I would also consider a swap depending on where you are. And my wheels are ceramic coated as well...

[Sherlock Ohms]

It depends on the dealer. We were able to swap, though we moved up to the 22" 755'S. The dealer will typically build a quote with specific features and swap as needed. It's not necessarily tied to the VIN.

[xdriv3]

We'll see how it goes. Would hate to have the deal fall through.

For those wanting to trade.. this deal won't happen unless the dealer swaps it.. sorry!!

[ND40oz]

It might not matter to you, but the 22" wheels come with the higher speed limiter as well. When you drop to a 21" A/S from the factory you get limited to 210 km/h. So there is some advantage to having the dealer swap you back to 21" wheels instead of getting them the factory.

[crackerjack15]

Originally Posted by ND40oz

It might not matter to you, but the 22" wheels come with the higher speed limiter as well. When you drop to a 21" A/S from the factory you get limited to 210 km/h. So there is some advantage to having the dealer swap you back to 21" wheels instead of getting them the factory.

Mine was ordered and delivered with 22" wheels. Its governed to ~132mph. (210 kph). It would easily go faster without the limiter.

[ND40oz]

Originally Posted by crackerjack15

Mine was ordered and delivered with 22" wheels. Its governed to ~132mph. (210 kph). It would easily go faster without the limiter.

That's interesting, checking the 2021 guide it looks like only 1XR, the 758i wheels will add option 840 to the 40i. I'm going to ask for clarification since all of the 22" wheel options state they come with performance RFT.

Edit: actually looking at how it is formatted, the 758i wheels only add option 840 to the M50i, so it may be only the M50i gets the increased top speed limiter and you have to option the 758i wheels for it.

[MomoM3]

Originally Posted by ND40oz

It might not matter to you, but the 22" wheels come with the higher speed limiter as well. When you drop to a 21" A/S from the factory you get limited to 210 km/h. So there is some advantage to having the dealer swap you back to 21" wheels instead of getting them the factory.

I'm not sure about MY2020 but for MY2021, only the specific 22" Y-spoke bi-color orbit grey wheels, style 758i (1XR) will add Increased top speed limiter (840) to the spec on the M50i.

[ComingInHot]

Originally Posted by MomoM3

I'm not sure about MY2020 but for MY2021, only the specific 22" Y-spoke bi-color orbit grey wheels, style 758i (1XR) will add Increased top speed limiter (840) to the spec on the M50i.

To me this is sooooo odd. So I buy the car with the 21" and I'm limited but then I add the better 758M 22" M performance wheels after and I'm still limited. Huh!!!???? That makes no sense.

I would order the vehicle with the 758M if I could and pick up the smaller wheels after for winter but that's not an option either since they don't swap for M performance parts and charge you the difference $$ during your build.

Complete BS really. This should be software driven depending on the wheel size/tire type selected if it's that serious.

On the plus side I don't drive that fast on normal roads and the X7 is not a track vehicle (for me at least)...sooooooo I'm good either way, I'm just pointing out the oddity of BMW's decision... especially on the M50i model.

[ComingInHot]

Also, why is it for the lower model (40i) it's a $1300 cost to upgrade to the 22" but for the M50i there is no difference in cost to downgrade to the 21". Also strange.

[Auricom]

Originally Posted by ComingInHot

Also, why is it for the lower model (40i) it's a $1300 cost to upgrade to the 22" but for the M50i there is no difference in cost to downgrade to the 21". Also strange.

BMW always charges to upgrade to larger wheel sizes but usually NC for side-grading to alternate design or same/down size for all-season tires.

For the 40i, they could have charged $950 for 22" V-spokes or Multi-spokes and $1300 for 22" Y-spoke Bi-color Individual.

[MomoM3]

Originally Posted by ComingInHot

To me this is sooooo odd. So I buy the car with the 21" and I'm limited but then I add the better 758M 22" M performance wheels after and I'm still limited. Huh!!!???? That makes no sense.

I would order the vehicle with the 758M if I could and pick up the smaller wheels after for winter but that's not an option either since they don't swap for M performance parts and charge you the difference $$ during your build.

Complete BS really. This should be software driven depending on the wheel size/tire type selected if it's that serious.

On the plus side I don't drive that fast on normal roads and the X7 is not a track vehicle (for me at least)...sooooooo I'm good either way, I'm just pointing out the oddity of BMW's decision... especially on the M50i model.

Originally Posted by ComingInHot

Also, why is it for the lower model (40i) it's a $1300 cost to upgrade to the 22" but for the M50i there is no difference in cost to downgrade to the 21". Also strange.

Yeah, I'm pretty ticked off I can't spec my M50i with the bi-color black 755M (1SP). The cerium grey 755M wheels won't cut it since I'm spec'ing with Extended Shadowline and will look off. The 758i (1XR) is growing on me but it's just not the same!

Of course I don't anticipate driving this boat over 130mph either lol. Increased top speed limiter (840) may be able to be coded in but I'm not sure.

Personally, I'll be buying the 21" 754M Winter Setup from BMW in the fall.

[ND40oz]

Originally Posted by MomoM3

Of course I don't anticipate driving this boat over 130mph either lol. Increased top speed limiter (840) may be able to be coded in but I'm not sure.

It can't be coded, you'd need a full flash to change it. I fully intend to take it above 210 km/h so it seems crazy to put a limiter on there unless it's wheel issue. I can't find any specs other than offsets and weights though which all seem to be the same across the 22" options.

[groove1]

Originally Posted by xdriv3

Looking at this beautiful X7 built with 22" staggered set up. I would love to trade down to the standard 21" rims for multiple reasons (cost, need AS).

How likely do you think the dealer can make it happen to complete the transaction?

I was told since it's tied to VIN, it probably can't happen.

As a compromised, I tried looking for AS RFTs. Tire rack only shows summer tires. None of the major chains show anything available. Even BMW's website show no compatible tires...

Any suggestions???

Originally Posted by xdriv3

Looking at this beautiful X7 built with 22" staggered set up. I would love to trade down to the standard 21" rims for multiple reasons (cost, need AS).

How likely do you think the dealer can make it happen to complete the transaction?

I was told since it's tied to VIN, it probably can't happen.

As a compromised, I tried looking for AS RFTs. Tire rack only shows summer tires. None of the major chains show anything available. Even BMW's website show no compatible tires...

Any suggestions???

I am considering buying a set of the front 22" front tires and putting them on the back with spacers installed to get a non staggered set up. There are all season tires available in the front 22" tire size. It's the rears that are odd and don't have any alternate tire options.

Doing this will will allow you to keep the 22in tires and get all season but only sacrifice some of the aggressive stance. It will probably be a pricy investment at first but save you money in the long run especially if you plan on keeping the car for a while.

[MomoM3]

Originally Posted by groove1

I am considering buying a set of the front 22" front tires and putting them on the back with spacers installed to get a non staggered set up. There are all season tires available in the front 22" tire size. It's the rears that are odd and don't have any alternate tire options.

Doing this will will allow you to keep the 22in tires and get all season but only sacrifice some of the aggressive stance. It will probably be a pricy investment at first but save you money in the long run especially if you plan on keeping the car for a while.

For Houston? Enjoy the 22" summers year round man! Rain will be just fine with them. 40-45 degrees 3 days a year is not terrible.

[groove1]

Originally Posted by MomoM3

For Houston? Enjoy the 22" summers year round man! Rain will be just fine with them. 40-45 degrees 3 days a year is not terrible.

The problem here in Houston is the city is spread out and we drive a lot and spending $2kevery year for tires will get old quick. I just wish those of us with the staggered setup had more option for tires. I really love the way it looks with the 22s. I find it looks so much more aggressive.

[crackerjack15]

Originally Posted by ND40oz

It can't be coded, you'd need a full flash to change it. I fully intend to take it above 210 km/h so it seems crazy to put a limiter on there unless it's wheel issue. I can't find any specs other than offsets and weights though which all seem to be the same across the 22" options.

It's very stable at 132mph. Boring actually. I was disappointed that the 22" option didn't increase the limiter. But the X7 is heavy and stopping this beast at those speeds could be scary in an emergency.

[ComingInHot]

Originally Posted by crackerjack15

It's very stable at 132mph. Boring actually. I was disappointed that the 22" option didn't increase the limiter. But the X7 is heavy and stopping this beast at those speeds could be scary in an emergency.

Is the 840 limiter just a 2021 thing? I see it in the 2021 pricing guides but it never showed up in the 2020.

[MomoM3]

Originally Posted by ComingInHot

Is the 840 limiter just a 2021 thing? I see it in the 2021 pricing guides but it never showed up in the 2020.

I compared the 2020 and 2021 pricing guides as well and found that, according to those guides, 840 is only added with 1XR. I'm not aware of any other way where you can add 840 but I'm not really sure.

[ComingInHot]

Originally Posted by MomoM3

I compared the 2020 and 2021 pricing guides as well and found that, according to those guides, 840 is only added with 1XR. I'm not aware of any other way where you can add 840 but I'm not really sure.

So does this mean 2020s are limited to a lower speed limit or are not.... not sure since it's not even in the 2020 ordering/price guide.

I'm sure what it is in 2021. Maybe the guys with 2020s can chime in.

[ComingInHot]

I had two different dealers tell me that if you switch tires from all season to summer perf. at the dealership they will adjust the speed limiter.

They seem confident they are correct and it's two different dealers that are saying it....sooooo....either they are both right or both wrong

Anyone has confirmation on this?