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      04-12-2023, 08:59 AM   #23
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I think if you blacked out the grills and the wheels that red highlight on that exterior could be pretty cool looking. the grill/wheels though not sure for my taste
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I think if you blacked out the grills and the wheels that red highlight on that exterior could be pretty cool looking. the grill/wheels though not sure for my taste
Then why buy the Red Label at all?
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Very well said, seems more like an experiment than anything else. As of now looking more and more like a failed one...
It’s absolutely an experiment, or just a test case to showcase technology that will flow down the various model lines. I can’t believe anyone would actually purchase one…wild
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BG without the TR accents (aside from emblems and wheels).

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Then why buy the Red Label at all?
Horsepower, exclusivity, etc.

Still has red labels on it. Some people prefer subtle!

The only way I'd get the red accents is if I could get the car in Toronto Red as well.
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Talk about lipstick on a pig…
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It’s not my thing, but hey, I’m sure someone is all pumped up about it.
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Holly heavens.. just be thankful your NOT being asked to buy one of these for an allocation of something special etc. What a mess! OMG!
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Please stop these nonsensical designs of late, fire all Mansory designers, and go back to designing and manufacturing real M vehicles like you used to.
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Might be a fun car to pick up when they depreciate to $50K. Until then…
That will probably happen the moment someone drives it out of the dealership.There won't be many takers for this vehicle.
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Very well said, seems more like an experiment than anything else. As of now looking more and more like a failed one...
It is not only a design experiment but more of a disguised way of increasing prices of all other BMWs using this "thing". Look how inexpensive the 7 series or the X5M look now in comparison to XM and Red Baron! Almost a bargain! Soon a base 5 series will creep up to $100k.
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It is not only a design experiment but more of a disguised way of increasing prices of all other BMWs using this "thing". Look how inexpensive the 7 series or the X5M look now in comparison to XM and Red Baron! Almost a bargain! Soon a base 5 series will creep up to $100k.
BMW is attempting to move into Porsche pricing territory (and Porsche wants to move up to Ferrari pricing).
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Sales are awful on the XM right now, this is a last ditch effort to generate excitement.

M is going to need to go back to building actual M cars.
Sales across the board are slowing. May production slots are available for the new M2. May...and we are well into April.
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BMW is attempting to move into Porsche pricing territory (and Porsche wants to move up to Ferrari pricing).
Yes, already confirmed by Porsche. All models are increasing pricing this year across the board.
New Cayenne (out in about a week) will be about 10% more expensive than previous. They have at least decided to put a real V8 into the Cayenne S instead of a weak Audi V6 (same boring one that I have in my Macan).
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Even if it were well designed the creation of a new category called “label red” is odd to me.

Do we know if this is going to port over as a trim line for other models?
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I don't mind the XM after seeing one in person recently but the red is just gaudy.
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It is not only a design experiment but more of a disguised way of increasing prices of all other BMWs using this "thing". Look how inexpensive the 7 series or the X5M look now in comparison to XM and Red Baron! Almost a bargain! Soon a base 5 series will creep up to $100k.
Yes agree, the cars are better and they feel/realise they can ask more for them.
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Yes, already confirmed by Porsche. All models are increasing pricing this year across the board.
New Cayenne (out in about a week) will be about 10% more expensive than previous. They have at least decided to put a real V8 into the Cayenne S instead of a weak Audi V6 (same boring one that I have in my Macan).
Yup, I picked up my ‘23 Taycan in Feb, ordering the same vehicle (minus paint since they got rid of my ordered color) would cost $11,500 more currently.
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#bmw. I am approaching a customer lifetime value of seven figures.

Please do not let this design team work on any other ///M products and especially the next generation m5.

In other news.

It was reported that Johnnie Walker scotch has cancelled their red label so as not to be confused with the modern era Pontiac Aztek…. Er xm label red.
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Yup, I picked up my ‘23 Taycan in Feb, ordering the same vehicle (minus paint since they got rid of my ordered color) would cost $11,500 more currently.
The same X5 in 2024 I ordered as one of the last 2023 is 11k cad more and even missing a few things.. And it's probably going to go up in 2025 and 2026 too.

Ain't no free lunch unfortunately.
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