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      12-27-2023, 08:26 AM   #23
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I drove the new Range, GLS, and went with 24 x7. The X7 beats range in every category. Both have great road presence. I don't have to worry about car stopping. Also, the Auto assistant on the highway was a deal breaker for me.

Range Rover looks clean, tho. It belongs to a rich lady whose husband is making the lease payment. Tata owned but run separately. In my mind, I'm like, they want 120K+ for a Tata car. Tata Cars is successful in India and is aimed at the lower to middle working class. Nothing against that brand.
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Nice! The new headlights are def growing on me. The more I see them in the wild the more I like them
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Hmmm X7 competes with Mercedes GLS.
That would make sense.
Range Rover is in a class of its own.

I have owned many Range Rovers being flawless.
Currently on my 4th Range Rover SV, superb.

The only substitute for Range Rover is: Mercedes G63. If any.


p.s., I am talking only of Range Rover (not Range Rover Sport, Range Rover Velar or Range Rover Evoque). Land Rover (the company) became greedy and placed Range Rover logo on Sport, Velar and Evoque
Mercedes has lost plot with quality issues. Not sure if it’s cost cutting but I wouldn’t even trust an S class (not they I can afford one) rattle city.
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The updated 40hp+ plus the split lights give this car the bang for the buck. I love the way it looks on the road, and sometimes I think about how surprisingly good it looks without M Sport Pro and just as is. An all white exterior with no black trim actually looks just as nice with the black grills.
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While am not a fan of the re-design front for the X7 LCI, I do think that the Alpina XB7 LCI is one of the best looking SUVs on the planet now…..

It feels as if the split headlights and new bumper was specifically designed for the Alpina… looks so sharp. They are way overpriced though even in the pre-owned market; at least compared to the B7 prices and depreciation.
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We've owned a Range Rover and a Land Rover Discovery. Got rid of both of them within 2 years of owning them. Terrible reliability and honestly... the $100K+ Range Rover was very underwhelming. Drove like garbage and the interior trim wasn't great.

I DO love the look of a Range Rover and they are off-road beasts! But for a daily driver... not for me.
I agree with the looks but thats all they have. At least their engine will be more reliable now lol.
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My lease is up on my 21 X7 M50i, I’m replacing it with a RR Defender 110 Carpathian.

X7 has been fine, but I’m done with the terrible local service here in ATL.
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      12-28-2023, 11:52 AM   #30
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My lease is up on my 21 X7 M50i, I’m replacing it with a RR Defender 110 Carpathian.

X7 has been fine, but I’m done with the terrible local service here in ATL.
Looks like you've definitely had a good run with BMWs. That defender should be sweet! Ask about windshield issues though. A good friend has one and he's been through 4 windshields in 2 years. He's not alone. RR always takes care of him but they clearly have an issue with those.
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Hmmm X7 competes with Mercedes GLS.
That would make sense.
Range Rover is in a class of its own.

I have owned many Range Rovers being flawless.
Currently on my 4th Range Rover SV, superb.

The only substitute for Range Rover is: Mercedes G63. If any.


p.s., I am talking only of Range Rover (not Range Rover Sport, Range Rover Velar or Range Rover Evoque). Land Rover (the company) became greedy and placed Range Rover logo on Sport, Velar and Evoque
The new RRS has the same platform as the RR. Prior versions the RRS was based on the LR4 or something smaller than the RR. I have seen many heads of states and billionaires drive or be driven in RR. Never seen anyone in X7. Not saying the X7 isn’t better, but not in the same class as a RR in terms of status. The effective selling price of a RR is likely much higher than the average X7. The XB7 is quite rare…
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Range Rover would be my vehicle of choice if I was being chauffeured around. The XB7 would be my choice if I was the one doing the chauffeuring.
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While am not a fan of the re-design front for the X7 LCI, I do think that the Alpina XB7 LCI is one of the best looking SUVs on the planet now…..

It feels as if the split headlights and new bumper was specifically designed for the Alpina… looks so sharp. They are way overpriced though even in the pre-owned market; at least compared to the B7 prices and depreciation.
I follow the same sentiment, and think the bigger 23” wheels along with the front lip and body colored pieces make it look meaner. I’ve seen a few in person and it’s such a beauty, definitely much better in person as pics don’t do it any justice 🔥
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I looked at the Defender and it does not compare to the X7, they are totally different trucks.
I looked at the P530SE LWB and I admit I liked it but I have 5 friends who have or have recently had Rovers and all of them said do not get a Rover unless you are willing to have it sit in the shop quite often for electrical gremlins and other issues.
I went with an XB7 and so far I am glad I did.
I have not seen another one in my area but I see at least 2 or 3 Land Rovers a day in my area.
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I test drove RR before placing my X7 m60i order. X7 wins in every single category except maybe look because that’s subjective.
The engine and transmission options and tuning is simply the best in this class. RR’s powertrain is one class below.
RR’s “offroad” capability is just a joke. Just look at that large wheel, it won’t survive even the first rock. It’s an illusion RR created for their owners that their soccer mom automobile is also an offroad beast.
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Someone here said it right. One is a lifestyle brand, the other a serious engineering company. It’s as simple as that!
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      12-30-2023, 05:41 PM   #37
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Other than a touch more perceived luxury and curb appeal the RR has nothing on the X7 M60i. And if my memory serves me correctly, RR uses BMW engines. So while some may perceive RR as a Uber luxury brand, most drivers like a luxury performance driving lifestyle which BMW owns!
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Hmmm X7 competes with Mercedes GLS.
That would make sense.
Range Rover is in a class of its own.

I have owned many Range Rovers being flawless.
Currently on my 4th Range Rover SV, superb.

The only substitute for Range Rover is: Mercedes G63. If any.


p.s., I am talking only of Range Rover (not Range Rover Sport, Range Rover Velar or Range Rover Evoque). Land Rover (the company) became greedy and placed Range Rover logo on Sport, Velar and Evoque
Glad RR treats you right and that you are happy with them.

I’ve owned a previous gen RR for a short time, had to get rid of it very quickly because it drove like a drunken elephant and the infotainment was terrible.

I like how the new one looks, it has a polished pebble SPA-type of vibe. I hope they fixed the driving/handling part. In any case I’m out of the market for such large trucks, they no longer fit my lifestyle.
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Glad RR treats you right and that you are happy with them.

I’ve owned a previous gen RR for a short time, had to get rid of it very quickly because it drove like a drunken elephant and the infotainment was terrible.

I like how the new one looks, it has a polished pebble SPA-type of vibe. I hope they fixed the driving/handling part. In any case I’m out of the market for such large trucks, they no longer fit my lifestyle.
I hear ya on the infotainment! We had a 2021 Range Rover and that infotainment system was awful. Very dated, slow, and awful.
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That uniqueMR dude sure is one of the few folks I've ever seen on here fully unleashing his RR-fandom... From a purely rational perspective the argument seems hilarious, however as stated by the member himself, it's mostly the "street cred" that's exciting him. It's a marketing argument, not an engineering or usability argument. As long as we're clear on that, all power to him.
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That uniqueMR dude sure is one of the few folks I've ever seen on here fully unleashing his RR-fandom... From a purely rational perspective the argument seems hilarious, however as stated by the member himself, it's mostly the "street cred" that's exciting him. It's a marketing argument, not an engineering or usability argument. As long as we're clear on that, all power to him.
He says Range Rover is in a class of its own. Judging by this year’s brand dependability results, that class appears to be the special kids’ trailer behind the school…

https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2023-us-vehicle-dependability-studyvds
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That uniqueMR dude sure is one of the few folks I've ever seen on here fully unleashing his RR-fandom... From a purely rational perspective the argument seems hilarious, however as stated by the member himself, it's mostly the "street cred" that's exciting him. It's a marketing argument, not an engineering or usability argument. As long as we're clear on that, all power to him.
Hey Dude,
Thanks for writing.
I have owned RR and stating the facts. No need to win here.
Have you owned any?

Lastly I have track cars have you done any? Xbox/PS won't count
Good luck dude
p.s., I am guessing 2024 was not a good start for you
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He says Range Rover is in a class of its own. Judging by this year’s brand dependability results, that class appears to be the special kids’ trailer behind the school…

https://www.jdpower.com/business/pre...ility-studyvds
lol you buy cars by rating and report? Interesting..
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Hey Dude,
Thanks for writing.
I have owned RR and stating the facts. No need to win here.
Have you owned any?

Lastly I have track cars have you done any? Xbox/PS won't count
Good luck dude
p.s., I am guessing 2024 was not a good start for you
lol… what a troll! Again, all power to you. No need for me to fight the obvious.
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