Why is this E92 335d so cheap??

peterg1965 · 08-21-2007, 02:22 PM

After the discussion on the price of AUC cars I saw this 335d M Sport on the BMW website. It seems very 'cheap' for an E92 335d M Sport with Nav+BT. I am paying £40K for mine next week (discounted) and this one is just two months old at £33,989 - un F*****g believable

http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/auc/car_d...WD72090PW59543

steph.uk · 08-21-2007, 02:33 PM

Hum

Seems to good to be true though, might have a prob somewhere!

booforty · 08-21-2007, 02:39 PM

Mileage? Even though 2 months old you never know? And its strategically not mentioned...

peterg1965 · 08-21-2007, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by beauforty

Mileage? Even though 2 months old you never know? And its strategically not mentioned...

I suspect it is a 'demo', they usually do not mention the mileage and on enquiry (from experience) they are under 5000 miles. It is a Y prefix registration which may also mean it is an ex BMW management car. All that should mean it should be up for the usual premium AUC money.

330cdsport · 08-21-2007, 02:46 PM

I noticed this a few days ago on the AUC site and thought it looked fishy.

Have you actually phoned to see if the car is available?

I once saw a 335d se on the AUC site ages ago on the 'coming soon' section at very keen money. I phoned up about it but it was already sold ????????
I (perhaps cynically) thought that some dealer had done this just to pull in some interest and that the car was never actually for sale at that price at all.

NFS · 08-21-2007, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by peterg1965

After the discussion on the price of AUC cars I saw this 335d M Sport on the BMW website. It seems very 'cheap' for an E92 335d M Sport with Nav+BT. I am paying £40K for mine next week (discounted) and this one is just two months old at £33,989 - un F*****g believable

http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/auc/car_d...WD72090PW59543

Strangely it isn't on the dealers website

booforty · 08-21-2007, 02:56 PM

Is Imran selling it on the VXR forum?

peterg1965 · 08-21-2007, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 330cdsport

I noticed this a few days ago on the AUC site and thought it looked fishy.

Have you actually phoned to see if the car is available?

I once saw a 335d se on the AUC site ages ago on the 'coming soon' section at very keen money. I phoned up about it but it was already sold ????????
I (perhaps cynically) thought that some dealer had done this just to pull in some interest and that the car was never actually for sale at that price at all.

Could be just that. I am not calling the dealer, I shall henceforth try to stay away from looking at AUC prices. That is a quick way to manic depression

I don't want to consider depreciation as I drive my shiny 335d off the forecourt! I was actually looking for AUC phots of a car in my colour/trim and I stumbled across this particular car.

Before I ordered my 335d in June I called a few dealers who had 335ds for sale at 'cheap' prices - primarily the big groups Stratstone and Synter. They were alledgedly demo's that they were keen to move on very quickly even if it meant they were selling at a loss. It seems to be a complete anathema to do that on such an expensive and desirable car.

silverbmwz3 · 08-21-2007, 03:55 PM

I betcha they've either input the model wrong and its a 325, or the price is wrong, or its done 15,000-20,000 miles in 2 months

Who's going to email them with the enquiry?!

dxb335d · 08-21-2007, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by silverbmwz3

I betcha they've either input the model wrong and its a 325, or the price is wrong, or its done 15,000-20,000 miles in 2 months

Who's going to email them with the enquiry?!

i agree, its prob a bloody 320d theve fucked up somewhere

vivekk · 08-21-2007, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by silverbmwz3

I betcha they've either input the model wrong and its a 325, or the price is wrong, or its done 15,000-20,000 miles in 2 months

Who's going to email them with the enquiry?!

I think you should do it, Paul.

Whilst your at it, ask them if they know the lyrics to Bohemian Rhapsody!

Viv

roofer · 08-21-2007, 05:24 PM

Mileage on application is whats killing it.

ChrisMWard · 08-22-2007, 01:52 AM

MOA is normal for demo cars, my 320d had this when I bought it at 5 weeks old. Actually had 1100 on the clock when I picked it up.

The YS prefix just means it was registered in Leeds, nothing fishy there. Most BMW staff cars have an R prefix, had two of them as AUCs, normal give away is the fitment of a fire extinguisher. Never any problems with staff cars, anything gets sorted before they are put on the market

Second hand values are being driven down by the discounts being given on new cars whether on the internet or by the dealers.

The last 120d I bought was only put in the coming soon section on a Wednesday evening. This car was priced around £500 above Glasses trade value. I bought it the next morning. This car was £1500 to £2000 cheaper than others I'd been looking at.

If this car's not on the dealers site I expect some lucky sod has already bought it!

Regards

Chris

Oli · 08-22-2007, 04:10 AM

Its beacuse you can get them with 12% discount from new, and like someone has said above this drives the secondhand prices down

NathanJT · 08-22-2007, 04:17 AM

To be perfectly honest there are loads with that spec for around the £34-35k mark, and that's with ~2000 miles on the clock.

The problem is at that price/spec they don't hang around for long!

The MOA means it's a demo because they can't guarantee what the mileage will bewhen someone comes to enquire. They're just covering their ass.

Real Thing · 08-22-2007, 04:44 AM

With it being VAT Qualifying I wonder if there quoting the pre VAT price (Would make it just under 40K then) which would seem more like the price of a 335d M Sport Coupe also the registration and picture is of a 335d so doesn’t look like there’ve input the wrong model

Art Man · 08-22-2007, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Real Thing

With it being VAT Qualifying I wonder if there quoting the pre VAT price (Would make it just under 40K then) which would seem more like the price of a 335d M Sport Coupe also the registration and picture is of a 335d so doesn’t look like there’ve input the wrong model

VAT Qualifying is the term used for second hand cars originally purchased by the motor trade, such as BMW UK and dealers (although it can include hire/rental companies) - which supports the theory its a BMW/dealer car.
VAT Qualifying has more relevance to company who want to buy the car using Contract Hire/Finance Lease, where the finance company can reclaim the VAT (or part of it). On a normal second-hand cars VAT cannot be re-claimed by the finance company, so you wouldn't quote a price pre VAT (and the calculation of the VAT is different on a second-hand car anyway).

By definition, all new cars are VAT Qualifying.

08-21-2007, 02:22 PM	#1
peterg1965 Brigadier General 164 Rep 4,190 Posts Drives: F30 335d M Sport, F15 X5 40d Join Date: May 2007 Location: The place of dark satanic mills, UK iTrader: (0)	Why is this E92 335d so cheap?? After the discussion on the price of AUC cars I saw this 335d M Sport on the BMW website. It seems very 'cheap' for an E92 335d M Sport with Nav+BT. I am paying £40K for mine next week (discounted) and this one is just two months old at £33,989 - un F*****g believable http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/auc/car_d...WD72090PW59543
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steph.uk 325D E92 3 Rep 164 Posts Drives: 325D Coupe M Sport Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: SCOTLAND iTrader: (0)	Hum Seems to good to be true though, might have a prob somewhere!
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booforty Major General 337 Rep 8,811 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London, UK iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 E92 M3 [0.00]	Mileage? Even though 2 months old you never know? And its strategically not mentioned...
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silverbmwz3 Colonel 49 Rep 2,022 Posts Drives: X5 g05 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Buckinghamshire, UK iTrader: (0) Garage List 2003 325 ci SE conv ... [0.00]	I betcha they've either input the model wrong and its a 325, or the price is wrong, or its done 15,000-20,000 miles in 2 months Who's going to email them with the enquiry?! __________________ Current: E90 335d (May 2007) \| Black/Black \| Prof Hifi \| Prof Nav \| 6FL \| Fully Electric Seats \| Xenons \| Folding Mirrors \| PDC Previous: 325ci Conv. Black/Black with lots of ACS Previous: z3 3.0 Silver with Black&Red Leather
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roofer Lieutenant 22 Rep 584 Posts Drives: 335D M Saloon Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Essex iTrader: (0)	Mileage on application is whats killing it.
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08-22-2007, 01:52 AM	#13
ChrisMWard Captain 14 Rep 686 Posts Drives: E93 320d M Sport, E81 116d SE Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Epsom UK iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 120d SE [0.00] 2007 335d A M Sport [0.00] 1998 M3 Evo [0.00] 2002 330d Sport [0.00] 2004 330d Sport [0.00]	MOA is normal for demo cars, my 320d had this when I bought it at 5 weeks old. Actually had 1100 on the clock when I picked it up. The YS prefix just means it was registered in Leeds, nothing fishy there. Most BMW staff cars have an R prefix, had two of them as AUCs, normal give away is the fitment of a fire extinguisher. Never any problems with staff cars, anything gets sorted before they are put on the market Second hand values are being driven down by the discounts being given on new cars whether on the internet or by the dealers. The last 120d I bought was only put in the coming soon section on a Wednesday evening. This car was priced around £500 above Glasses trade value. I bought it the next morning. This car was £1500 to £2000 cheaper than others I'd been looking at. If this car's not on the dealers site I expect some lucky sod has already bought it! Regards Chris __________________ Previously: 2007 335D MSport E90 Le Mans Blue, 2004 330D A Sport Silver Grey, 2002 330D A Sport Saphire Black, 2001 320D SE Touring Titanium Silver, 1998 M3 Evo Techno Violet, 1996 328i Sport Montreal Blue, 1994 325i Coupe Red, 1989 325i Sport 2 door Dolphin Grey,1986 325i SE 4 door Lachs
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NathanJT Techie Geek 37 Rep 681 Posts Drives: 330d M Sport Manual Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Derby, UK iTrader: (0)	To be perfectly honest there are loads with that spec for around the £34-35k mark, and that's with ~2000 miles on the clock. The problem is at that price/spec they don't hang around for long! The MOA means it's a demo because they can't guarantee what the mileage will bewhen someone comes to enquire. They're just covering their ass. __________________ 330d M-Sport \| Sapphire Black \| Black Dakota \| Nav Pro \| iDrive \| Bluetooth \| PDC \| Xenons \| Hot Seats \| Tracker \| Blacklines
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Real Thing Lieutenant 24 Rep 582 Posts Drives: Audi TT-RS Plus + MK6 Golf R Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Leicestershire iTrader: (0)	With it being VAT Qualifying I wonder if there quoting the pre VAT price (Would make it just under 40K then) which would seem more like the price of a 335d M Sport Coupe also the registration and picture is of a 335d so doesn’t look like there’ve input the wrong model __________________
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