[toberight]

There are too many worries about choosing a tire.

The 22-inch rear wheel has no suitable tire except for summer.
Does the tire manufacturer really have no plans to make 315 35 22 inch winter or all-season tires?

[toddwalton]

Tire Rack has one option, and Nokian (I swear by Nokian's on all my BMW's) has two options. Not sure what the issue is here.

[Frqnj]

I’ve learnt my lesson with large rims, low profile run flats, and summer performance tires. Unless you track your car or just want an enthusiast ride at all times they are just plain not worth it. I would have spec’d the X7 with the non run flats but we wanted the M sport with CB metallic paint. So here’s hoping the 21” all season run flats won’t be a headache.

[UGAdawg]

Originally Posted by toddwalton

Tire Rack has one option, and Nokian (I swear by Nokian's on all my BMW's) has two options. Not sure what the issue is here.

Those are available for the fronts but I do not think there is an option for the rear staggered size.

[ppagiga]

Yeah no available winter for that rear. Get a dedicated set of rims (20” or 21”) and there will be a bunch of tire options. I’ve run Scorpion Winters a lot and they are great.

If you’re willing to go run flat bmw has a 21” winter tire/rim package that is a good value.

[jmciver]

Why even bother with a runflat tire if you can have a spare? I know when the times comes for me to get my X7 I will definitely get the spare tire option. I am glad (and a bit surprised) that BMW even offers a spare for the X7. Once the runflats are done, I would most likely replace them with cheaper (and arguably better) non-runflats since I would have a spare tire available for an emergency.

I also agree with the comment above about the low profile tires and I am a fan of the 21" wheel/tire option on the X7 as a result - including the fact there are more 21" tire options available than 22". If I want the sporty ride of a low profile tire, I am fortunate to have another car for that purpose .....

[ppagiga]

Originally Posted by jmciver

Why even bother with a runflat tire if you can have a spare? I know when the times comes for me to get my X7 I will definitely get the spare tire option. I am glad (and a bit surprised) that BMW even offers a spare for the X7. Once the runflats are done, I would most likely replace them with cheaper (and arguably better) non-runflats since I would have a spare tire available for an emergency.

I also agree with the comment above about the low profile tires and I am a fan of the 21" wheel/tire option on the X7 as a result - including the fact there are more 21" tire options available than 22". If I want the sporty ride of a low profile tire, I am fortunate to have another car for that purpose .....

I think one might want run flats because the biggest spare the vehicle can fit is a temp spare rated at 50 miles or something. Maybe it’s more, I forget, but let’s say it’s 50. So run flat plus temp spare will get you 100 miles or so vs only 50 on the run flat.

If you go 22s, in particular, I think it’s wise to go run flat vs non run flat if you do a fair amount of road tripping. Peace of mind of being in bumble### USA and having trouble locating a replacement 22 is worth whatever difference in ride quality there may be.

[toddwalton]

Originally Posted by jmciver

Why even bother with a runflat tire if you can have a spare? I know when the times comes for me to get my X7 I will definitely get the spare tire option. I am glad (and a bit surprised) that BMW even offers a spare for the X7. Once the runflats are done, I would most likely replace them with cheaper (and arguably better) non-runflats since I would have a spare tire available for an emergency.

I also agree with the comment above about the low profile tires and I am a fan of the 21" wheel/tire option on the X7 as a result - including the fact there are more 21" tire options available than 22". If I want the sporty ride of a low profile tire, I am fortunate to have another car for that purpose .....

I don’t worry about a spare at all. I’d just call BMW roadside assistance and have them show up and sort it out.

[toddwalton]

Originally Posted by UGAdawg

Those are available for the fronts but I do not think there is an option for the rear staggered size.

Ah, I understand now, thanks for clarifying.

[jmciver]

Originally Posted by toddwalton

I don’t worry about a spare at all. I’d just call BMW roadside assistance and have them show up and sort it out.

Sure, but there still are some places in this country where cell phone service doesn't work.... I guess I am a bit old school and prefer to have a spare. While I have no problem using BMW roadside assistance when included with the car, I am not afraid to get my hands dirty and change a flat tire if necessary. Especially since I usually keep my cars for the long haul after roadside assistance is gone. It is not that hard with factory included tools/hardware.

I personally think that being able to change a flat tire (with a factory spare & jack) is an important skill set for any licensed driver - even though services like AAA are available. On a recent cross country road trip, with my current Ford SUV towing my track car on my car trailer, I got a flat tire. Roadside assistance was not easily available, so I changed it - providing my teenaged son a good lesson as well since he was close to driving age at the time ....

[dmann33]

Personally, I think I’d call roadside for anything other than a flat tire. Usually, I’m going somewhere time sensitive (sporting event, concert, appointment, etc). I’m not losing my day or event sitting in my car. I can be on my way faster than somebody even starts in my direction.

With the 22’s, can you imagine trying to find one of those tires on the 4th of July weekend? Your stuck and roadside won’t be much help.

To the OP: the 22” tire situation is unfortunate right now. No particular manufacturer is responsible for making the tire, but market forces will likely cause some options to show up at some point.

[Bogey4me]

Originally Posted by toberight

There are too many worries about choosing a tire.

The 22-inch rear wheel has no suitable tire except for summer.
Does the tire manufacturer really have no plans to make 315 35 22 inch winter or all-season tires?

Winter tire for winter and summer tire for summer. All season tires split the difference and so are worse in both winter and summer. Tires are too important to ride and handling to skimp. Most BMW dealerships will store the one set that you aren't using.

[jmciver]

Originally Posted by Bogey4me

Winter tire for winter and summer tire for summer. All season tires split the difference and so are worse in both winter and summer. Tires are too important to ride and handling to skimp. Most BMW dealerships will store the one set that you aren't using.

I would beg to differ on that... If you live in a modest climate that sees all 4 seasons, like much of the east coast for example, all season tires are more than adequate (and safe) for most drivers to use all year. For people that live in places that see a good amount of snow in the winter, snow tires may be a good investment depending on the road conditions where you live and how often you need to drive in snow - but still not always necessary. I grew up in Boston and my parents always had all season tires on their cars. Besides, anyone pushing the limit on the performance tires on an X7 (or any SUV for that matter), regardless of the season, has other issues to worry about...

Also, what dealer will "store" tires when you are not using them during the off season? Is that a west coast thing?

[toddwalton]

Originally Posted by UGAdawg

Those are available for the fronts but I do not think there is an option for the rear staggered size.

I have a 40i on the standard wheels. Am I four-square or do I have staggered rears?

[UGAdawg]

Originally Posted by toddwalton

I have a 40i on the standard wheels. Am I four-square or do I have staggered rears?

You should be all square

[Darz]

I have 22’s and the bmw finance guy offered me a wheel and tire warranty which is normally good for 6 years but extend it to 7 seven years and I need to decide soon. Is it worth it? If I do then I need a dedicated winter set up or just leave it in the garage when there is snow.

Are 22’s run flat safe during winter weather? I have 2 young ones.

[jmciver]

Originally Posted by Darz

I have 22's and the bmw finance guy offered me a wheel and tire warranty which is normally good for 6 years but extend it to 7 seven years and I need to decide soon. Is it worth it? If I do then I need a dedicated winter set up or just leave it in the garage when there is snow.

Are 22's run flat safe during winter weather? I have 2 young ones.

What is the make and model of the tires that came with your X7? You can then look them up on the tire manufacturers web site for the specs and characteristics of the tire. If they are in fact summer tires (like the ones that I have on my F80 M3 or a similar sports car for example), then they will not be recommended for any snow or freezing temps even when in dry weather. If they are all-season tires, you will be fine in any weather conditions, to include light snow. The Tire Rack website has good information articles on the characteristics of different tire types as well.

I am personally not a fan of any extra "warranties" the dealer try's to push on you. Tires are disposable items and have a shelf life. 6 years on a tire is plenty long enough. With normal driving, you will most likely replace your tires within 3-4 years anyway. I say skip the extra tire warranty.

[UGAdawg]

Originally Posted by Darz

I have 22's and the bmw finance guy offered me a wheel and tire warranty which is normally good for 6 years but extend it to 7 seven years and I need to decide soon. Is it worth it? If I do then I need a dedicated winter set up or just leave it in the garage when there is snow.

Are 22's run flat safe during winter weather? I have 2 young ones.

It is hard to give you an answer without knowing the price of the warranty but I'd probably skip it. The 22s are summer tires. The are not a good option for snow and the manufacturers would tell you they are not a good option in cold weather regardless of snow. The lack of an all season option on the 22s is the reason I went with 21s.

[Darz]

$3600 for 7 years. I have 22 run flat summer performance tires. This Also includes any kind of damage in the wheels. He said I could put a nails in my tires, drive there, and they will replace it.

If I can replace 8 tires before warranty ends, it will be worth with the added security of the wheels also. 🤔

[UGAdawg]

Originally Posted by Darz

$3600 for 7 years. I have 22 run flat summer performance tires. This Also includes any kind of damage in the wheels. He said I could put a nails in my tires, drive there, and they will replace it.

If I can replace 8 tires before warranty ends, it will be worth with the added security of the wheels also. 🤔

There is no way I would do that. 8 flats in 7 years seems crazy to me.

[jmciver]

Originally Posted by UGAdawg

There is no way I would do that. 8 flats in 7 years seems crazy to me.

+1. I would definitely pass on that as well.

For Darz, if you are living in the northeast, then you may want to seriously consider a second set of winter tires if you want to safely drive in the winter months during inclement weather at freezing temperatures. My M3 has high performance summer tires and I had no qualms with driving in the winter during sub freezing temps as low as the mid 20's sometimes, so it can be done - but I did it only in the dry. However, my driving style changed significantly when driving in the cold since the tires on a Honda Civic would outperform mine in the freezing temps, but I did not feel like I was driving in a "death trap" either. However, with the slightest chance of moisture during freezing temps, the M3 stayed in the garage due to the tires.

But now I am really curious, what is the make and model of the 22" summer tires that come on the X7 - I would like to learn more about them (and the BMW USA site does not provide the make and model of the tires)? They may be more capable in the cold than initially thought. My guess is they are either Michelin or Continentals as BMW uses those brands for their M Car performance tires (even though the M Cars don't use runflats).

[ppagiga]

Originally Posted by jmciver

+1. I would definitely pass on that as well.

For Darz, if you are living in the northeast, then you may want to seriously consider a second set of winter tires if you want to safely drive in the winter months during inclement weather at freezing temperatures. My M3 has high performance summer tires and I had no qualms with driving in the winter during sub freezing temps as low as the mid 20's sometimes, so it can be done - but I did it only in the dry. However, my driving style changed significantly when driving in the cold since the tires on a Honda Civic would outperform mine in the freezing temps, but I did not feel like I was driving in a "death trap" either. However, with the slightest chance of moisture during freezing temps, the M3 stayed in the garage due to the tires.

But now I am really curious, what is the make and model of the 22" summer tires that come on the X7 - I would like to learn more about them (and the BMW USA site does not provide the make and model of the tires)? They may be more capable in the cold than initially thought. My guess is they are either Michelin or Continentals as BMW uses those brands for their M Car performance tires (even though the M Cars don't use runflats).

Mine are pirelli p zeros and they will suck in the winter I’m sure of that lol.

Re rim and tire, it almost never really makes sense to buy but a silver lining is if you buy the winter rim and tire package from your bmw dealer the rim and tire warranty will cover your winter set as well. Double check but that is almost always the case.

That being said the numbers don’t really work. The look a little less unfavorable when you are running run flats since each one runs 500+ and they usually can’t be repaired if you get a flat, though