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But if I did go for the 22" performance run flat option (and lived in a climate that sees some snow in the winter), I doubt I would go for a winter wheel/tire package from the dealer. I could only imagine how much that would cost compared to a decent winter wheel/tire package from Tire Rack (w/TPMS) that can be had for approx $2200 or so. So in the interest of adding more data to this thread, what does a typical winter wheel/tire package for the X7 from the dealer run for? Or is the X7 still too new and winter wheel/tire packages are not being offered yet (especially since it is still the summer time)?
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One other thing to consider is the tire size as well. Low profile tires (i.e. 22" and even 21") do look good, but they do create a stiffer ride. "Stiffer" ride is not necessarily better when driving in inclement weather such as snow, ice, etc (this is why professional and amateur racers adjust their suspensions to a much softer configuration when racing in the rain - tires are an extension of the suspension system). A larger sidewall tire would be better for a winter/snow tire IMO for that reason. So I think a moderately priced 20" winter wheel/tire combo from a place like Tire Rack would be the better value when taking winter performance into consideration. Especially since your winter tire/wheel combo would only be on your car for a small portion of the year compared to the summer tires in most places that see 4 seasons. The only real limitation on how small you could go is brake caliper clearance. The M-Sport brakes, which are bigger than the standard brakes, may require a minimum wheel diameter size (but no smaller than 21" though). The original Tire Rack link I provided as an example in my post above is dead so I removed it. But Tire Rack (and I believe Discount Tire Direct) allow you to create winter wheel/tire packages to see the potential cost for a set.
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soooo.... if i piece together a 21" package myself, 4 pirelli scorpion winters 285/45R21 = 2300 dollars delivered. i then would need to find 4 wheels that size. sure, maybe i could chooch out 4 rims from somewhere for a little less than 1950 (mounted on tire) or i could just buy the BMW package if i like that rim, which i do. i've done my due diligence based on my preferences. sounds like mine and yours are not aligned. |
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22" Package price: $3962.40 ($606/wheel; $343/tire Pirelli Scorpion) 21" Package price: $3392.84 ($276/wheel; $531/tire Pirelli Scorpion) 20" Package price: $2220.64 ($255/wheel; $259/tire Bridgestone Blizzaks) The primary cost difference for the packages is the tires - 21" snow tires are noticeably more expensive than 20" snow tires (although the 22" snow tires were much cheaper than the 21" snow tires - weird). There are several different wheel designs available at different price points, so finding a wheel design that you like, in theory, should not be a problem (but like you, I am picky about wheel design and admittedly most of the designs offered on the Tire Rack site are not to my liking). Although the larger the diameter, the smaller the wheel selection. Also, while "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", 20" wheel/tires do not look that bad on a full size SUV from a size perspective IMHO. My current Ford Expedition EL came with 18" rims and don't look bad IMO. Most full size SUVs you see on the road come with 19" or 20" rims (although 21"+ size wheels are becoming more popular from multiple full size SUV manufactures). At the end of the day, the choice is yours. But before anyone pulls the trigger at the dealer on a winter wheel/tire package, I definitely recommend you take a look at the different wheel/tire package configurators offered by different online wheel/tire vendors. That way you can truly make an informed decision on what you want and how much you are willing to pay for it.
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Abroad, there are another couple winter 21” options plus a 20” option. All on winter tires, all run flat blizzaks |
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When they become available I’m sure they can work with you on that, but will cost you one way or another until BMW offers it as an official no cost option
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Would either of these tires work?
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ Ultra High Performance All-Season Or Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06 (DWS for Dry, Wet & Snow) Ultra High Performance All-Season |
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Not sure I understand the thinking of those not wanting the run flats. Which tire do think is safer on the highway at say 75mph? Would you want a normal tire or the run flat? I been there already with my X7 and can tell you I am now a firm believer in the run flat. The car tells you immediately that your tire is flat because you probably wouldn’t have noticed it yet. You can’t say that with a regular tire blowout at that speed! The run flat is also safer because you can keep going and get to that next exit safely instead of sitting on the side of a dangerous interstate waiting or changing your tire. You get 50 miles at no greater than 50mph on the run flat the same as a spare. The best option for me would be run flats with a full size run flat spare but alas one cannot fit in the spare wheel well on my X7.
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They can still blow They wear out faster and they cost more (double whammy) You can't use them with sidewall damage (and then you have no spare in many cases) Tough to find one quick on short notice in stock. Harsher ride. |
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Well, A/S tires for the 22" dont exist. If they did, I am sure you could pay your dealer to replace the RFT tire with Non RFT. I don't think many bmw dealers are going to take a tire off a new car and try to resell it as new to someone else. |
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The two tire options I posted are 21" A/S, very highly rated on TireRack. Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ Ultra High Performance All-Season https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...Speed+Rated%29 Or Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06 (DWS for Dry, Wet & Snow) Ultra High Performance All-Season https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...Contact+DWS+06 |
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For those that have the performance run-flats AND decide to get a separate winter wheel/tire package, why not get a true winter/snow tire and not an all season tire set? Most all-season tires can perform adequately in light snow, but they are still a compromise compared to true snow tires. So if you are going to buy/install a spare wheel/tire set for a few winter months anyway, why not get the best option for the task at hand? I don't think the price difference between all-seasons and true snow tires are all that different (but admittedly I have not done a price comparison)....
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Pirelli P Zero All Season. They are not run-flat and would fit the Bimmer 275/315 staggered setup.
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hmmmmmm hadn't seen these. The different aspect ratios isnt a problem?
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