06-24-2020, 06:08 PM | #45 |
Major
674
Rep 1,022
Posts |
Again, if you're seriously considering an SUV for yourself and want to stay in the BMW family, you cannot go wrong with the M50i IMHO. Fantastic cruising car, doesn't feel too big to me and can move. I clocked 0-60 the other day with my Draggy at 4.6 secs. I'm convinced it can do better. The car moves and it has a lot of flexibility. Do you need two of them? Per other suggestions, maybe a nicely powered sedan would do and you can trade off with your wife here and there. Good luck!
|
Appreciate
0
|
06-25-2020, 05:23 AM | #46 |
Colonel
1316
Rep 2,349
Posts |
While I haven't driven an X7 at all the one constant comment about Alpinas is that their suspension is amazing and so well developed. From reading your posts I feel like the XB7 might appeal to you because of that.
__________________
SCOTT26 "So as an admirer of the M5 and a potential customer of an M5 Touring. I would run naked around the streets of Garching if they were to offer one."
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-12-2020, 08:41 PM | #47 | |
Private
28
Rep 75
Posts |
Quote:
I can't do a sedan, I'm not a car guy. I need/want something bigger. I hate being low to the ground. So I'm stuck with an SUV. I'm still going to sit and see some reviews once these all come out. It's too hard to make heads or tails by leaks and articles that just all copy each other. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-17-2020, 06:08 PM | #48 |
Major General
763
Rep 5,561
Posts |
There are some interesting characteristics related to Alpina:
The ALPINA Sport Suspension, with two-axle air springs, a finely-balanced damper set-up and Active Roll Stabilization, offers a wide variety of driving experiences ranging from plush ride comfort to advanced, race-inspired dynamics. An ALPINA specific dome-bulkhead strut and reinforced torsion struts increase body rigidity. The Integral Active Steering enables the wheels of the rear axle to pivot a maximum of 2.3° left or right. At low speeds, the rear axle steers opposed to the front axle for increased agility and dynamic handling. Conversely, at higher speeds the rear axle steers “with” (congruent to) the front axle for maximum directional stability. The driver can choose from three steering modes: COMFORT, SPORT and SPORT+. Of course, a Test Drive will help for your final decision. 👍 |
Appreciate
1
LittleJoe1064.00 |
07-17-2020, 08:35 PM | #49 | |
Brigadier General
4365
Rep 4,246
Posts |
Quote:
A couple of comments in parsing the above: [COLOR="Blue"]The ALPINA Sport Suspension, with two-axle air springs, a finely-balanced damper set-up and Active Roll Stabilization, offers a wide variety of driving experiences ranging from plush ride comfort to advanced, race-inspired dynamics. An ALPINA specific dome-bulkhead strut and reinforced torsion struts increase body rigidity.[/COLOR] ALPINA specific-dampers, dome and torsion struts are of note, perhaps ALPINA ARS logic/ratios otherwise same BMW hardware - ARS, air suspension and level adjustments. [COLOR="Blue"]The Integral Active Steering enables the wheels of the rear axle to pivot a maximum of 2.3° left or right. At low speeds, the rear axle steers opposed to the front axle for increased agility and dynamic handling. Conversely, at higher speeds the rear axle steers "with" (congruent to) the front axle for maximum directional stability.[/COLOR] ALPINA IAS = BMW IAS and functions the same way - 2.3 l/r max rear wheel pivot angle and low/high speed steering handling - opposite directions at low/same at high. [COLOR="Blue"]The driver can choose from three steering modes: COMFORT, SPORT and SPORT+[/COLOR] What boggles my mind is they erred in communicating the "3 steering modes" which in actuality are the Driving Dynamics Controls modes: COMFORT, COMFORT+ (available in certain markets), SPORT and SPORT+. Steering is affected by selecting a driving control but isn't itself a mode. Selecting any of the DDCs will adjust: - electronic damper control (EDC) in the air suspension - air suspension height - integral active steering - engine response - transmission response, gear hold - active exhaust - steering response If SPORT Individual is available for ALPINAs, then you can selectively choose what SPORT DDC adjusts. Otherwise exciting product to fill the X7 ///M void.
__________________
Current BMWs - '20 X5 xDrive40i M Sport, '20 BMW M550i | Past BMWs - '03 E39 540iT M Sport, '06 E53 4.8is, '11 E70 M Sport LCI
Last edited by Auricom; 07-17-2020 at 11:15 PM.. |
|
Appreciate
2
MomoM3987.00 ComingInHot370.50 |
07-17-2020, 11:44 PM | #50 | |
Private First Class
104
Rep 190
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-18-2020, 07:52 AM | #51 | ||
Newish
371
Rep 526
Posts |
Quote:
|
||
Appreciate
0
|
07-18-2020, 02:28 PM | #52 | |
Major General
763
Rep 5,561
Posts |
Quote:
Than I would ask why would you buy an M50i when a 40i has enough power for normal street use ? Alpina is based on BMW models, with different adjustments. Are we surprised about that? Can you justify the price difference between the M5 and M550i? If not, the most powerful model it's not for you. The same thing is valid for the Alpina B5 vs M550i, Alpina B7 vs 750Li, Alpina XB7 vs M50i version. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-18-2020, 10:00 PM | #53 | ||
Newish
371
Rep 526
Posts |
Quote:
I was waiting on it as well as many were on here and it was a bit disappointing to be honest when I found out what was offered, especially in the US. Then covid caused supply issues and I had to scramble to get a fully loaded 2020 M50i which was my fallback plan... well the M50i not the 2020. In the end I'm glad I made the quick call to switch gears because it only got worse as the weeks went by and we truly saw that options were stripped out of the M50i in 2021. I just think for the cost difference between the two versions there should be more in the XB7. For me there isn't enough to make the upgrade worth it. Once again my opinion. For others they may and will see it differently. |
||
Appreciate
0
|
07-18-2020, 10:57 PM | #54 | |
First Lieutenant
265
Rep 311
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-18-2020, 11:04 PM | #55 | |||
Major
674
Rep 1,022
Posts |
Quote:
|
|||
Appreciate
0
|
07-20-2020, 10:40 AM | #57 |
Major
1064
Rep 1,420
Posts |
I agree a $30,000 premium to buy an XB7 is a lot but I'm sure X7 owners will be twisting their heads the first time they see an XB7 cruise by. I know I will.
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-20-2020, 11:50 AM | #58 |
Self-Deprecating Narcissist
7266
Rep 6,561
Posts |
The 50i optioned well is peppy enough. The M50i is quite quick for it's size and priced well. The XB7 is kind of hard for me to wrap my head around. Unique and well engineered sure... but I am not sure if that $30k is worth it. I think an 50i or M50i is more than enough then take that $40k or so and buy a weekend toy. I think you'd have more bang for your buck that way but there is an ass for every seat. I have no doubt they will sell a few of these and I will definitely admire then as they whip past me going 35mph on the way to the mall or grocery store.
__________________
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-20-2020, 03:21 PM | #59 | |
Major
674
Rep 1,022
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
2
iconoclast7265.50 Wild Blue3683.50 |
07-21-2020, 04:17 AM | #60 |
Brigadier General
3684
Rep 3,479
Posts |
|
Appreciate
1
CruiseControl216.50 |
07-21-2020, 08:33 AM | #61 |
Self-Deprecating Narcissist
7266
Rep 6,561
Posts |
Yes but loaded with cargo and passengers it is a bit under-powered and overworked IMO. YMMV.
__________________
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-21-2020, 10:23 AM | #62 |
Major
1064
Rep 1,420
Posts |
I own the 50i and have test drove several M50i's and there is no perceivable difference in power. The 40i is a very good engine but underwhelming after living with the V8.
And IMO a 40i M-Sport looks identical on the road to a M50i which hurts the exclusiveness of the M50i. You can disagree but XB7 buyers will enjoy a distinctive looking SAV that separates it from the pack. Sure, they're paying for that privilege but they'll be king of the X7 hill, if you ever get to see one. |
Appreciate
0
|
07-21-2020, 08:11 PM | #63 | |
Major
674
Rep 1,022
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
1
Heimdall136.50 |
07-21-2020, 08:18 PM | #64 | ||
Major
1064
Rep 1,420
Posts |
Quote:
|
||
Appreciate
0
|
07-22-2020, 05:27 AM | #65 | |
Private
28
Rep 75
Posts |
Quote:
I'll be pretty upset though if I end up getting a 2021 M50i and someone mentioned a lot of things aren't available anymore for the 2021 as it was for 2020. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-22-2020, 06:06 AM | #66 | ||
Newish
371
Rep 526
Posts |
Quote:
Well with some options only in the Alpina and taken away from the rest of the line up in 2021 it's going to be interesting. I still ask myself how am I buying a 2020 when 2021 is out.... because it's better.... that's soooo weird... thanks covid. |
||
Appreciate
0
|
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
|
|