[lsk5013]

Just picked up a new '24 40i and it came with the standard 22" staggered Pirelli P-Zero Summer run flats. After reading some of the others post about the dangers of summer tires especially in temps below 40, I'm tempted to invest in a second winter set (...especially with young kids too).

Georgia winters are tricky because you could wake up and its 25 degrees out, by late morning its 37, and by mid-afternoon its 55-60. So, for those that live either here or in a similar climate, how are you handling your "winter" tire set-up? Any thoughts?? While it's rare we get actual accumulated snow, it is common to get rain at just above freezing temperatures too especially overnight (perfect for black ice and other danger spots to come about).

Appreciate the advice as I did search around, but couldn't find any info on this more nuanced winter tire topic.

EDIT: Just read a few threads down about some using the Continental CROSSCONTACT LX SPORT SSR for all season use. Would that be a viable option? Or is there something better for my conditions?!

[bimmerdiesel]

I live in central Virginia and winter is usually 25-45F with occasional few inches of snow. I initially thought of getting dedicated 21” winter set. But decided against it. Whenever it’s below 50F, I take other cars or just don’t drive. It saves me space in my garage. I plan to get all seasons when my current tires are at the end of their life which I think will be by end of this summer

[lsk5013]

Originally Posted by bimmerdiesel

I live in central Virginia and winter is usually 25-45F with occasional few inches of snow. I initially thought of getting dedicated 21” winter set. But decided against it. Whenever it’s below 50F, I take other cars or just don’t drive. It saves me space in my garage. I plan to get all seasons when my current tires are at the end of their life which I think will be by end of this summer

I don’t have the option of taking another car. This is THE family car for winter and being AWD, need to find a way to make it work. Cause the only “other” car is a F87 M2C and not equipped for the littles in the back.

[keg97]

You really don't need winters in that climate. At worst, you need all seasons.

I've lived in Virginia for 20 years now (winters slightly worse than yours) but grew up in the Northeast and a more "real" winter.

Option 1- get another set of wheels and put all seasons on those. Run those only during your winters and switch out to the stock summers in the spring. Once you wear out the summers, you can easily sell those wheels and just get on the all season hamster wheel.

Option 2- I'm going to say something that is certainly more of a risk. It's practically March. Run those current wheels for the next 9 months and see where you are wear wise. These tires typically don't last long so you might feel comfortable going ahead and replacing the stock summers with AS's at that point.

I say this having run summers for two winters on our Audi. It was my wife's car and her commute is 14 miles round trip so it's not a road trip warrior. However, I'd take it out on the worst of those weather days every so often and truly didn't feel unsafe at all. Granted we never had snow, but I think some people preach like these summers are going to turn into Cinderella at midnight once the temperature drops below 40. That's just not true. They do lose effectiveness. But in a regular driving situation, they're fine. I had ours in temps in the teens and never felt slippage, even trying to break them free.

[bimmerdiesel]

In that case look into 22 all-seasons.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/conti...ct-dws-06-plus

Winter set is always a good idea but you will rarely need it for your weather.. and you shouldn’t be driving them too often in 60+ weather. I have dedicated set for my 3 rwd series and this time, I didn’t even put those on for how light winter currently is.

[keg97]

Sorry but I forgot this- if you go all season tires...I have LOVED my Michelin Pilot Sport all seasons. I'm finishing up a set on that tuned Audi Q7 I mentioned earlier. They are fantastic and have worn well as I'll be right near 40K miles on them when I pop for the new set. Every component you'd look for in a premium tire for a larger SUV (like the Q7/X7's) is right on point.

[ledphut]

For what it’s worth I drove my ‘22 XB7 on the P-Zero’s for several months of Chicago winter with no real issues. Yes the tire compound gets hard in the cold. Yes the tread pattern isn’t the best for snow. But unless you’re already a terrible driver you shouldn’t have any serious problems.

[lsk5013]

Appreciate everyone’s help…

@ledphut - yea, we’ve had no problems so far and especially since we’re thru the worst of winter, I’m not anticipating any issues especially since the tread is full.

@keg97 - appreciate your perspective and I think since we’re almost to Spring and temps are warming, I’m probably going to run the Summers for the remainder of the year. And then as mentioned/recco’d, switch to an All Season tire. Good to know the CrossContacts are a bit overkill and that you like the Michelin Pilot All Seasons. Seems like they could even handle our Southern summers if we wanted to go to a single set that lasts.

[Orient330iNYC]

for staggered 22's only the conti dws06 plus comes in the factory sizes.
you can do 285/40-22 all around and run the michelin pilot AS4 but you wont be able to rotate them and they can look a little stretched on the rear.

[keg97]

Originally Posted by lsk5013

Appreciate everyone’s help…

@ledphut - yea, we’ve had no problems so far and especially since we’re thru the worst of winter, I’m not anticipating any issues especially since the tread is full.

@keg97 - appreciate your perspective and I think since we’re almost to Spring and temps are warming, I’m probably going to run the Summers for the remainder of the year. And then as mentioned/recco’d, switch to an All Season tire. Good to know the CrossContacts are a bit overkill and that you like the Michelin Pilot All Seasons. Seems like they could even handle our Southern summers if we wanted to go to a single set that lasts.

No doubt the Pilot Sport A/S 4's can handle your summer. No issues up here and we're basically as hot as you get down there. Plus we spend several weeks down in Hilton Head over the summer.

[lsk5013]

Good good! And guess I assume you don’t rotate them as the guy above mentioned?! Side note, tell the wifey we’re going to Hilton Head for a nice family vacation with a side of a meet-up lol

[keg97]

Originally Posted by lsk5013

Good good! And guess I assume you don’t rotate them as the guy above mentioned?! Side note, tell the wifey we’re going to Hilton Head for a nice family vacation with a side of a meet-up lol

I do rotate them on my Audi b/c those wheels are squared.

I'm not sure what I do when I go to the Pilot's on the wife's X7. I may just go all squared like some do or just deal with the two different sizes.

Yes!!! We love HHI and have been going since I was a kid when my parents bought a place in Sea Pines. We sometimes slide down off summer season but not a ton- our kids soccer travel just doesn't allow for much off summer travel.

[GCR]

Originally Posted by lsk5013

I don’t have the option of taking another car. This is THE family car for winter and being AWD, need to find a way to make it work. Cause the only “other” car is a F87 M2C and not equipped for the littles in the back.

I live in the NW Atlanta Metro area, and have always had a 4WD truck for inclement conditions. Our X7 has the Conti SSR’s, and I would be quite content to use that car in place of my truck. Realistically though, the last time we had slick roads was a good while ago, and most locals absolutely scare me to death with their lack of experience and plain stupidity on icy/snow covered roads. I would rather take a pass than play bumper cars with the average Atlanta driver when the frozen stuff falls.

[lsk5013]

Orient330iNYC - sorry for an ignorant question, but if I go with the squared setup with the Michelin A/S, why can't I rotate them? It seems with 4 tires being the same size, this would be possible?? The wife loves a run flat tire just to be safe, so not sure the Conti DWS 06 plus comes in a run flat/SSR?

keg97 - same! We love HHI but hear you on the travel soccer. I actually played D1 soccer many moons ago, so can sympathize with all that traveling!

GCR - couldn't agree more! What you said is definitely plan A, and to simply stay off the roads. Drivers here in ATL are the worst and when any true inclement weather comes out, their brains and logical thinking go out the window too. Good to know you're running the Continental SSRs (and assume its the CrossContact LX Sport unless you're referring to yours coming with the OE PremiumContact 6)

[Bimmerfun82]

Don’t need to worry about it in Atlanta. Just do your zesty driving when it warms up, and take it easy when it’s cold.

[Orient330iNYC]

Originally Posted by lsk5013

Orient330iNYC - sorry for an ignorant question, but if I go with the squared setup with the Michelin A/S, why can't I rotate them? It seems with 4 tires being the same size, this would be possible?? The wife loves a run flat tire just to be safe, so not sure the Conti DWS 06 plus comes in a run flat/SSR?

Your stock rims are also different widths. 9.5 in front and 10.5 in the rear. The 10.5 up front will hit the strut on the inside and the wheel well liner when turning. A spacer will let you clear but then you might hit the fender at lock and compression. If you really want a square setup, best bet would be to replace the wider rears with 9.5s

There are no runflat all seasons in 22" last time i checked, squared or staggered. Only runflats avail are summer, and not a huge number of choices. Pirelli pzero, michelin pilot sport 4 suv zp, and the contis.

You can get all season runflats in 21" but you'll need a whole set of rims.

[GCR]

Originally Posted by lsk5013

Orient330iNYC - sorry for an ignorant question, but if I go with the squared setup with the Michelin A/S, why can't I rotate them? It seems with 4 tires being the same size, this would be possible?? The wife loves a run flat tire just to be safe, so not sure the Conti DWS 06 plus comes in a run flat/SSR?

keg97 - same! We love HHI but hear you on the travel soccer. I actually played D1 soccer many moons ago, so can sympathize with all that traveling!

GCR - couldn't agree more! What you said is definitely plan A, and to simply stay off the roads. Drivers here in ATL are the worst and when any true inclement weather comes out, their brains and logical thinking go out the window too. Good to know you're running the Continental SSRs (and assume its the CrossContact LX Sport unless you're referring to yours coming with the OE PremiumContact 6)

I have the Cross Contact LX Sport on 21" wheels.