How many people with 2009 models have had HPFP failure?

markinva · 05-08-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cptn Mo 703

I had a 2008 e93...hpfp failed on me like 5 times...BMWNA sent me a brand new 09 last month...and thats starting to act up on me too

I think this is the first one I've noticed in NOVA.... interesting that it failed 5 times on your 08... on nova gas. And you 09 is acting up- what's it doing specifically?

I live in NOVA and use shell and chevron when I can. I wonder if we filled up at the exact same stations if you would've had those problems and I wouldn't (my car is acting fine- knock on wood).

I'm trying to see if it is something about the gas that causes the pumps to fail or if it's the way the part was installed/delivered (ie defects) that causes some to fail.

matts335 · 05-08-2009, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by markinva

I think this is the first one I've noticed in NOVA.... interesting that it failed 5 times on your 08... on nova gas. And you 09 is acting up- what's it doing specifically?

I live in NOVA and use shell and chevron when I can. I wonder if we filled up at the exact same stations if you would've had those problems and I wouldn't (my car is acting fine- knock on wood).

I'm trying to see if it is something about the gas that causes the pumps to fail or if it's the way the part was installed/delivered (ie defects) that causes some to fail.

Actually it's the second one you've noticed. I'm from NOVA too.

Always use shell 93.

Modwop · 05-20-2009, 03:44 PM

2009 335i, production 01/09, experienced wonky starting then saw the dreaded "Service Engine Soon" light. Took it straight to the dealer, who confirmed HPFP failure. Fortunately, they seem to have replacement part in stock (hope it's "new generation"). This Service Advisor says it's the first 2009 failure he's seen and he was quite surprised. Oh....and maybe I win the prize - failure/warning light lit at 2,269 miles.

mem_cg · 05-20-2009, 05:09 PM

09 335i took delivery on 3-30-09 Failure on 5/5/09 2740 miles the part was in stock got the car back in two days (there was a bmw rep that wanted to check the part, and review the car.)

doggiedog · 05-20-2009, 07:25 PM

I had mine replaced 2 weeks ago at 2500 miles.

I asked the dealer to check out a weird idle and they later told me it's the fuel injectors. They called me later and told me they replaced the HPFP as well.

Edit: I just noticed I replied to this thread at 2300 miles. I guess things can deteriorate rapidly.

triton. · 05-20-2009, 07:55 PM

So has bmw extend the warranty on the 335is just for this part for for the entire car?

Raikkonen · 05-24-2009, 04:03 PM

Just turned 1,200 miles today; I know because I just completed a thorough break-in procedure. I was actually pulling out of my garage to drive around the block, as I'm about to perform the car's first oil change, and it cranked for about 4-5 seconds. It's usually instantaneous. I'm now nervous...

My 07 335 never had ANY issues, whether it was -5 degrees or 100 degrees with high humidity, it ALWAYS fired instantly. As did this car, until today.

My car is an 09 335 e90, 6-mt; 1st week of March build. Fingers crossed....

elegant · 05-28-2009, 09:52 AM

Had my HPFP pump replaced yesterday on my 2009 335xi coupe.

3er858 · 05-28-2009, 10:25 AM

2009 Sedan (9/2008)
13,000 miles
HPFP failure (long cranks, no check engine light)

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Indy335iCp · 05-28-2009, 01:43 PM

2009 E92 335i
Step
HPFP failed at around 2500 miles
Car was delivered to me on March 21st.

dlpuette · 05-29-2009, 07:46 AM

Question 1 - No
Question 2 - No

(sorry, had to do it)

BzzzBom · 08-12-2009, 12:49 AM

My March 2009 build date E92 had the HPFP replaced at 2,000 miles and again at 2500 miles. It seems like the problem is worse than ever.

samchoi604 · 08-12-2009, 03:27 AM

One explanation for the rise in HPFP failures is that oil companies are putting more ethanol or other chemical into their gasoline, than ever before. I don't have source for this though.

jlangton · 08-12-2009, 09:34 AM

'09 E90 late May build, failed about 2 weeks ago on me at 2,500 miles.

ss134 · 08-12-2009, 09:56 AM

This doesnt seem to be as much of a problem in Europe. Im sure it still happens in Euro cars but the degree to which its happening in the US IS UNACCEPTABLE IMO. Without a doubt i believe its the difference in quality between US and European fuel regarding ethanol content.
Hope i havent just jinxed my car as ive done 2500miles with no problem and have a 10hr drive to France on Saturday!!!

markinva · 08-12-2009, 10:25 AM

well, there goes the theory that post March09 builds have a new pump that works...

Joeb427 · 08-12-2009, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markinva

well, there goes the theory that post March09 builds have a new pump that works...

'09s seem to be worse than previous years.

Koroush · 08-12-2009, 11:47 AM

Flame suit on....

What is a HPFP.. and why is it such a pain in the ass when it breaks? Can't you just replace it? Thanks?

ThorsHammer · 08-12-2009, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Koroush

Flame suit on....

What is a HPFP.. and why is it such a pain in the ass when it breaks? Can't you just replace it? Thanks?

High Pressure Fuel Pump.

Yes, you can replace it.

It's just south of $400, and you pretty much have to remove the intake manifold to get there.

For a non-warranty car (like mine...one that has been modded), BMW charges about $1200 total for parts and labor.

It is a faulty/defective product and BMW knows it.

thekewl1 · 08-12-2009, 05:45 PM

09/08 build
failed approx 5500 miles

Hyper psi-atic · 08-13-2009, 08:54 AM

I was just looking at this damn post yesterday and today start my car and:

SERVICE ENGINE SOON light stays on!!

No long cranks, No shuddering, No noticeable loss of power/throttle response up to 4K rpm.

Hopefully its a sensor problem or injector, cuz I really dont want to be part of this HPFP statistic....

2009 E92 335i M-Sport Package. 1,260 miles.

danchang79 · 10-14-2009, 01:05 AM

09 e92
purchased on May/2009
HPFP failure:1

So they said 09 version is improved ? then how come i see so many failures from everyone? I just replaced mine yesterday I am in Orange County area.

05-20-2009, 03:44 PM	#47
Modwop Registered 0 Rep 1 Posts Drives: 2009 335i Sport Join Date: May 2009 Location: Arlington, VA iTrader: (0)	Joining the HPFP "Failure" Club 2009 335i, production 01/09, experienced wonky starting then saw the dreaded "Service Engine Soon" light. Took it straight to the dealer, who confirmed HPFP failure. Fortunately, they seem to have replacement part in stock (hope it's "new generation"). This Service Advisor says it's the first 2009 failure he's seen and he was quite surprised. Oh....and maybe I win the prize - failure/warning light lit at 2,269 miles.
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05-20-2009, 05:09 PM	#48
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05-20-2009, 07:25 PM	#49
doggiedog Captain 36 Rep 757 Posts Drives: 09 E90 335i 6MT SG/BL Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Fort Lee, NJ iTrader: (0)	I had mine replaced 2 weeks ago at 2500 miles. I asked the dealer to check out a weird idle and they later told me it's the fuel injectors. They called me later and told me they replaced the HPFP as well. Edit: I just noticed I replied to this thread at 2300 miles. I guess things can deteriorate rapidly.
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05-20-2009, 07:55 PM	#50
triton. Captain 65 Rep 805 Posts Drives: 2009 Honda Fit Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Wilmington, DE iTrader: (7) Garage List 2009 FIT [2.00]	So has bmw extend the warranty on the 335is just for this part for for the entire car? __________________ 2009 GE8 Fit SPORT AT Navi - Blue Sensation Pearl My E90 OEM Front/Side Bumpers for Sale -Here
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05-24-2009, 04:03 PM	#51
Raikkonen Captain 339 Rep 820 Posts Drives: 2024 X5 M60i Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grosse Pointe Park, MI iTrader: (2)	Just turned 1,200 miles today; I know because I just completed a thorough break-in procedure. I was actually pulling out of my garage to drive around the block, as I'm about to perform the car's first oil change, and it cranked for about 4-5 seconds. It's usually instantaneous. I'm now nervous... My 07 335 never had ANY issues, whether it was -5 degrees or 100 degrees with high humidity, it ALWAYS fired instantly. As did this car, until today. My car is an 09 335 e90, 6-mt; 1st week of March build. Fingers crossed....
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05-28-2009, 09:52 AM	#52
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05-28-2009, 10:25 AM	#53
3er858 First Class Privates 44 Rep 616 Posts Drives: AW F10, CW Mk6, 1299S Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: SCV SoCal iTrader: (0)	2009 Sedan (9/2008) 13,000 miles HPFP failure (long cranks, no check engine light) Click Here for more details... __________________ F10 M-Sport \| xdrive LTMW \| Velgen VBM6\| V12's \| CKS coilovers \| wrapped roof \| wrapped mirror caps \| wrapped door handles \| Gloss Black Grills \| M5 rear Lip
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05-28-2009, 01:43 PM	#54
Indy335iCp Private First Class 3 Rep 113 Posts Drives: 2009 335i Coupe BSM/CR Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Indianapolis iTrader: (0)	2009 E92 335i Step HPFP failed at around 2500 miles Car was delivered to me on March 21st.
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08-12-2009, 12:49 AM	#56
BzzzBom Major 93 Rep 1,216 Posts Drives: 05 R53 MINI / 09 335i Coupe Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	My March 2009 build date E92 had the HPFP replaced at 2,000 miles and again at 2500 miles. It seems like the problem is worse than ever.
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08-12-2009, 03:27 AM	#57
samchoi604 Colonel 60 Rep 2,334 Posts Drives: black on black Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Burnaby, BC iTrader: (3)	One explanation for the rise in HPFP failures is that oil companies are putting more ethanol or other chemical into their gasoline, than ever before. I don't have source for this though.
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08-12-2009, 09:34 AM	#58
jlangton Private 7 Rep 85 Posts Drives: 335i E90 LCI Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Rochester, NY iTrader: (2)	'09 E90 late May build, failed about 2 weeks ago on me at 2,500 miles.
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08-12-2009, 09:56 AM	#59
ss134 Brigadier General 230 Rep 3,899 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Germany/UK iTrader: (1)	This doesnt seem to be as much of a problem in Europe. Im sure it still happens in Euro cars but the degree to which its happening in the US IS UNACCEPTABLE IMO. Without a doubt i believe its the difference in quality between US and European fuel regarding ethanol content. Hope i havent just jinxed my car as ive done 2500miles with no problem and have a 10hr drive to France on Saturday!!!
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08-12-2009, 10:25 AM	#60
markinva Lieutenant 20 Rep 402 Posts Drives: 2021 M4 G82 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: NOVA iTrader: (0)	well, there goes the theory that post March09 builds have a new pump that works...
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08-12-2009, 11:47 AM	#62
Koroush Lieutenant 59 Rep 401 Posts Drives: nothing Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Maryland iTrader: (0)	Flame suit on.... What is a HPFP.. and why is it such a pain in the ass when it breaks? Can't you just replace it? Thanks? __________________
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08-13-2009, 08:54 AM	#65
Hyper psi-atic Lieutenant 30 Rep 428 Posts Drives: E92 335i M-Sport, 6MT, AW/CR Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NoVA iTrader: (3)	I was just looking at this damn post yesterday and today start my car and: SERVICE ENGINE SOON light stays on!! No long cranks, No shuddering, No noticeable loss of power/throttle response up to 4K rpm. Hopefully its a sensor problem or injector, cuz I really dont want to be part of this HPFP statistic.... 2009 E92 335i M-Sport Package. 1,260 miles.
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10-14-2009, 01:05 AM	#66
danchang79 New Member 6 Rep 21 Posts Drives: 2018 X3 30i Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Plano, TX iTrader: (1)	09 e92 purchased on May/2009 HPFP failure:1 So they said 09 version is improved ? then how come i see so many failures from everyone? I just replaced mine yesterday I am in Orange County area.
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