[MM60i]

Anyone know of a 285/40/22 run flat all season option for square set up ? Don’t have a spare tire so kind of need the run flats.

Otherwise will probably have to go with OEM perelli winter run flats although not looking to spend 3k on a car I might not keep that long. Wind noise is excessive.

[streborx]

Originally Posted by MM60i

Anyone know of a 285/40/22 run flat all season option for square set up ? Don’t have a spare tire so kind of need the run flats.

Otherwise will probably have to go with OEM perelli winter run flats although not looking to spend 3k on a car I might not keep that long. Wind noise is excessive.

Start at https://tiresvote.com/catalog/runflat/ -- pick a brand and a model, then query the available sizes. Choices in 22" will probably be meager. Let us know what you find.

[Jive]

My local Americas Tire won’t install a 285/40/22 on my X7 because the load rating is off by 1 on the rear (110 vs 111). I don’t think this is a big deal but unfortunate and I understand they have policies. Found a mobile installer via Tirerack which I’m willing to try for the convenience and his reviews are great. Would anyone have any hesitation with mobile installers?

[FutrBMWOwner]

Another user pointed to these as a All season option for the X7?

Front: 275 35 R22
Back: 315 30 R 22

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...tandard%20Tire

Could these work?

[Orient330iNYC]

Originally Posted by Jive

My local Americas Tire won’t install a 285/40/22 on my X7 because the load rating is off by 1 on the rear (110 vs 111). I don’t think this is a big deal but unfortunate and I understand they have policies. Found a mobile installer via Tirerack which I’m willing to try for the convenience and his reviews are great. Would anyone have any hesitation with mobile installers?

not at all, but check what equipment they use.
the mobile installer i used had both a hunter revolution fully automated tire changer and a hunter roadforce elite balancer. i was very impressed, the installer had custom built his van to be able to use both, he had to modify the roof to clear the boom of the hunter revolution, and he had to trim the shield of the balancer to fit. the van was setup with a lithium ion powerpack system to supply the power needed for the gear. four tires mounted and roadforce balanced in under an hour, he never used a tire lever, the machine did all work including lifting the wheel from the floor.

[Jive]

Originally Posted by Orient330iNYC

not at all, but check what equipment they use.
the mobile installer i used had both a hunter revolution fully automated tire changer and a hunter roadforce elite balancer. i was very impressed, the installed had custom built his van to be able to use both, he had to modify the roof to clear the boom of the hunter revolution, and he had to trim the shield of the balancer to fit. the van was setup with a lithium ion powerpack system to supply the power needed for the gear. four tires mounted and roadforce balanced in under an hour, he never used a tire lever, the machine did all work including lifting the wheel from the floor.

Thanks for the response!

[M3JHWK]

Originally Posted by Jive

My local Americas Tire won’t install a 285/40/22 on my X7 because the load rating is off by 1 on the rear (110 vs 111). I don’t think this is a big deal but unfortunate and I understand they have policies. Found a mobile installer via Tirerack which I’m willing to try for the convenience and his reviews are great. Would anyone have any hesitation with mobile installers?

Had the exact same issue with Discount Tire, said they weren't allowed. Went directly across the street and bought them from Big O Tires instead. They had no objections regarding load rating but initially queried the size choice and the fact they weren't run flats.

[geewiss]

Ended up going with the Vredestein QUATRAC PRO - SIZE: 285/40R22 on all 4 corners. Pretty satisfied with the ride and now they look. Obviously you can see a difference in the back going from the 315's to the 285's but it's not too much.

Currently have 10k miles on the summers that we took off and our tire guys says we have plenty of tread left, so we'll use them again in the summer. Only cost us $120 to get the new tires mounted/balanced.

Attached some pictures if interested.

[M3JHWK]

Originally Posted by geewiss

Ended up going with the Vredestein QUATRAC PRO - SIZE: 285/40R22 on all 4 corners. Pretty satisfied with the ride and now they look. Obviously you can see a difference in the back going from the 315's to the 285's but it's not too much.

Currently have 10k miles on the summers that we took off and our tire guys says we have plenty of tread left, so we'll use them again in the summer. Only cost us $120 to get the new tires mounted/balanced.

Attached some pictures if interested.

What tire pressures are you running?

[Saejin]

So banging my head against the wall with trying to get an all season setup on 22s without breaking the bank every time I need to switch tires.

Was thinking of running square setup in size 22 with OEM wheels.

So have this question for the hive mind.

So do you think the front 22 OEM wheels will fit on the rear. I suspect the offset would be the same as the 21” square setup wheels. Sometimes you can find single 22” wheels on eBay or other listings.

This way I can run DWS06 all seasons on all corners.

Thoughts.

[RunMoreMiles]

Originally Posted by Angelo1

No offense but this is a terrible setup. You should never have different height tires on any vehicle. All tires should have equal revolutions.

I bought my 21 M50i, used, earlier this year and this is the exact tire set up it had. It’s been okay for me. Today is my first service visit (24k) so I’ll see if the techs make any mention of the set up.

front: Pirelli Scorpion Zero AllSeason 275/40 R22
back: Pirelli Scorpion Zero AllSeason 295/35 R22

[streborx]

Originally Posted by Saejin

So banging my head against the wall with trying to get an all season setup on 22s without breaking the bank every time I need to switch tires.

Was thinking of running square setup in size 22 with OEM wheels.

So have this question for the hive mind.

So do you think the front 22 OEM wheels will fit on the rear. I suspect the offset would be the same as the 21” square setup wheels. Sometimes you can find single 22” wheels on eBay or other listings.

This way I can run DWS06 all seasons on all corners.

Thoughts.

The 22" OE setup has 9.5" wheels on the front and 10.5" wheels on the rear. Others have posted that the 10.5" is too wide to use on the front, but 9.5" is OK on the rear. Some tires in 275/40R22 can be mounted on both width wheels, but then can't be rotated. If you can find two 9.5" OE take-offs, they'll be fine for a squared up setup.

[streborx]

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[geewiss]

Originally Posted by M3JHWK

What tire pressures are you running?

The shop said they used the PSI on the door. Not sure if that's right though

[RunMoreMiles]

During my service visit today they found a plug in of my right rear tires and a small bubble in the side wall. The SA came back with the same tire recommendation for the replacement. No mention of the 295/35 R22 having an adverse affect on the car or performance

[Jive]

Originally Posted by RunMoreMiles

During my service visit today they found a plug in of my right rear tires and a small bubble in the side wall. The SA came back with the same tire recommendation for the replacement. No mention of the 295/35 R22 having an adverse affect on the car or performance

Taking anything the SA says with a healthy dose of skepticism. My SA told me its normal for a <500 mile car to lose air from a tire, even after explaining to him I had to fill it up weekly. After some back and forth, my tire was replaced under "goodwill from the dealer".

[theinfamousdrew]

Reviving this thread to see if anyone has any updates.
Our X7 has about 16k miles on it and the OE Pirelli's need replacing.

I too am banging my head trying to find a decent set of tires for this thing. Not a fan of Pirelli's and the Conti's...meh

Researching the square setup on OE staggard wheels now.

[x7bmw23]

Been running the square 285 45 22 set up on staggered oem 22” wheels for several months. Plenty of tread left. I went 45 series instead of 40 series because I wanted more cushion.

Only issue I experienced was when in reverse and cutting the steering wheel all the way to one side the tire would slightly rub the plastic front fender wheel well. I imagine this is due to height of tire since I chose to go 45 series instead of 40 series and I also run 20mm and 12mm spacers. Once I ran smaller spacers and a few thousand miles of tread off the set up, it no longer rubs. I will continue running this set up all year every year. I don’t care about the power and I hv a 40i and love to cruise in luxury so I don’t care for the 315 staggered set up nor do I miss the $2500 replacement set every two years.

I took my factory 315 staggered set off and went to square set up when they started talking 315 tire shortages. I was to a point where I was going to sell the Continental 315 set I bought from Discount Tire with significant tread left because I enjoy the square set so much and looks good to me.

I want the 23” wheels from the LCI model but with current 22” shortages the 23” tire shortages will be much worse I imagine. The 23” wheel option was removed from the BMW USA build website a couple of weeks ago. Not sure why but maybe due to a tire shortage. It would suck if they sell new X7 with 23” wheels and customer gets a flat tire within a week and then the dealer tells them it’ll be 6-8 weeks before they can get a replacement tire 😳😂😩

[jomkapat]

Question from a newbie. Apart from the aesthetic part of 22/23in wheels(they look beautiful indeed), would 21 inch be a wise choice in terms of availability, comfort, stability and also economically? I'm not really particular about the looks of 22/23 but trying to see if 21 would a good choice in general

[DarkTT]

Originally Posted by x7bmw23

Been running the square 285 45 22 set up on staggered oem 22” wheels for several months. Plenty of tread left. I went 45 series instead of 40 series because I wanted more cushion.

Only issue I experienced was when in reverse and cutting the steering wheel all the way to one side the tire would slightly rub the plastic front fender wheel well. I imagine this is due to height of tire since I chose to go 45 series instead of 40 series and I also run 20mm and 12mm spacers. Once I ran smaller spacers and a few thousand miles of tread off the set up, it no longer rubs. I will continue running this set up all year every year. I don’t care about the power and I hv a 40i and love to cruise in luxury so I don’t care for the 315 staggered set up nor do I miss the $2500 replacement set every two years.

I took my factory 315 staggered set off and went to square set up when they started talking 315 tire shortages. I was to a point where I was going to sell the Continental 315 set I bought from Discount Tire with significant tread left because I enjoy the square set so much and looks good to me.

I want the 23” wheels from the LCI model but with current 22” shortages the 23” tire shortages will be much worse I imagine. The 23” wheel option was removed from the BMW USA build website a couple of weeks ago. Not sure why but maybe due to a tire shortage. It would suck if they sell new X7 with 23” wheels and customer gets a flat tire within a week and then the dealer tells them it’ll be 6-8 weeks before they can get a replacement tire 😳😂😩

Hi x7bmw23. Thanks for sharing all the details of 285/45/22 experience. I initially tried 285/40/22 square set and visited Discount Tire, but they refused to install them because of load index is lower than original 315 rear by 1(!). 110 vs 111. I tried to persuade them, but they declined per their policy. In stead, I ordered 285/45/22 set and they said it should be fine (114 load index), also mentioned may have rubbing issue in the tire well as you described. Next week it will be installed, let’s see.

You used spacer on your x7, will 285/45 still rub at reverse without spacer?

I don’t mind not being able to rotate tire, anyway A/S square will have longer thread life than original stagger summer tire.

[x7bmw23]

Originally Posted by DarkTT

Hi xbme23. Thanks for sharing all the details of 285/45/22 experience. I initially tried 285/40/22 square set and visited Discount Tire, but they refused to install them because of load index is lower than original 315 rear by 1(!). 110 vs 111. I tried to persuade them, but they declined per their policy. In stead, I ordered 285/45/22 set and they said it should be fine (114 load index), also mentioned may have rubbing issue in the tire well as you described. Next week it will be installed, let’s see.

You used spacer on your x7, will 285/45 still rub at reverse without spacer?

I don’t mind not being able to rotating tire, anyway A/S square will have longer thread like than original stagger summer tire.

I never had the wheels on the X7 without spacers so I’m not sure if they would rub or not.

I’ve had the local Discount Tire service my last 5 vehicles so I give them a lot of my business and the salesman I was working with researched as well and said it should work and I’m glad I went this route. Plenty of tread left. I put my factory 21” wheels with run flats back on for the winter time here in the Midwest but I could’ve easily left the 22” square set up on all year long because of the all season tires.

In reverse with the spacers on the square set up, it barely rubbed and ONLY when the wheel is maxed out. I got to a point within the first few days of determining where and how it was rubbing and started trying to avoid reversing situations like backing out of parking spaces, using a wider angle when backing out of garage, etc. I always park out in no man’s land when I go out, so it wasn’t a big deal. I originally thought it was because of the high brand new all season tire tread instead of the smoother performance based tire, but I definitely think it was the 20mm spacer I had at the time before I switched to 12mm front and 11mm rear or smthg like that. I hv the 20mm on all four wheels now with the 21” oem square set up with no issues.

I love mine and may just eventually sell my gently used Continental 315 staggered set up.

[DarkTT]

Originally Posted by x7bmw23

I never had the wheels on the X7 without spacers so I’m not sure if they would rub or not.

I’ve had the local Discount Tire service my last 5 vehicles so I give them a lot of my business and the salesman I was working with researched as well and said it should work and I’m glad I went this route. Plenty of tread left. I put my factory 21” wheels with run flats back on for the winter time here in the Midwest but I could’ve easily left the 22” square set up on all year long because of the all season tires.

In reverse with the spacers on the square set up, it barely rubbed and ONLY when the wheel is maxed out. I got to a point within the first few days of determining where and how it was rubbing and started trying to avoid reversing situations like backing out of parking spaces, using a wider angle when backing out of garage, etc. I always park out in no man’s land when I go out, so it wasn’t a big deal. I originally thought it was because of the high brand new all season tire tread instead of the smoother performance based tire, but I definitely think it was the 20mm spacer I had at the time before I switched to 12mm front and 11mm rear or smthg like that. I hv the 20mm on all four wheels now with the 21” oem square set up with no issues.

I love mine and may just eventually sell my gently used Continental 315 staggered set up.

Great. Thanks for the info. In sport mode driving when car is low, 285/45/22 won’t rub the well especially when it goes over bump?