[Orient330iNYC]

Originally Posted by jvm

Does anyone have any input/thoughts regarding this speed rating on the front tires being "W" speed-rated versus the required "Y"? They claim it impacts not just maximum speed but all speeds... is that true? I don't drive my vehicle over 168mph (which is the W speed rating), so max speed isn't an issue, but any thoughts on the "impacts the performance and handling expectation set by the vehicle manufacture" comment? Would putting a Y-speed rated tire on void the vehicle's warranty, or impact an insurance claim/accident situation (assuming you were not going over the 168mph "W-rated" speed in the accident/insurance situation)?

the top speed limiter on the X7 is a max of 155mph. most are 130mph.
168 mph is more than enough. the tire speed rating is for SUSTAINED speed, i highly doubt with a speed limiter at 155, that it would be possible to exceed 168mph for a sustained period. possibly for a brief period of time on a downhill, but unlikely, air resistance is brutal at that speed.

[achanouh]

I found a tire shop in chandler az that was able to get me the Conti dws06+ a/s 275/40 and 315/35 installed with warranty for $1750 out the door

[CLEbmw]

Just ordered a new X7 M60i. I ordered the 22in rims on the car, and am deciding between purchasing a new set of tires and having the dealer put them on (Continental EXTREMECONTACT DWS 06 PLUS) or just buying a winter tire/wheel package from BMW and having 2 sets of tires/wheels and swapping them out seasonally.

If I buy from BMW, which is the better option, the 21s with 285s square, or the 22in staggered setup?

https://www.shopbmwusa.com/ACCESSORI...IRE-ASSEMBLIES


Thoughts?

[Orient330iNYC]

Originally Posted by CLEbmw

Just ordered a new X7 M60i. I ordered the 22in rims on the car, and am deciding between purchasing a new set of tires and having the dealer put them on (Continental EXTREMECONTACT DWS 06 PLUS) or just buying a winter tire/wheel package from BMW and having 2 sets of tires/wheels and swapping them out seasonally.

If I buy from BMW, which is the better option, the 21s with 285s square, or the 22in staggered setup?

https://www.shopbmwusa.com/ACCESSORI...IRE-ASSEMBLIES


Thoughts?

for snows? i would go with the 21s. they'll deal with potholes and such better than the 22s. also squared will give you more snow tire options down the road.

[SSM5]

We just had another nail on my wife's 2023 X7, the 2nd tire needing replacement this year. At 14000 miles now so replacing soon anyway and with the tire warranty paying for that one rear tire I bought the other 3 and put on the DWS 06 Plus. Wow what a difference !! Those Crappy Run Flats make the ride harsh for nothing. I could feel the difference instantly. We ordered the spare tire so not worried about flats.

[SMKS]

Originally Posted by CLEbmw

Just ordered a new X7 M60i. I ordered the 22in rims on the car, and am deciding between purchasing a new set of tires and having the dealer put them on (Continental EXTREMECONTACT DWS 06 PLUS) or just buying a winter tire/wheel package from BMW and having 2 sets of tires/wheels and swapping them out seasonally.

If I buy from BMW, which is the better option, the 21s with 285s square, or the 22in staggered setup?

https://www.shopbmwusa.com/ACCESSORI...IRE-ASSEMBLIES


Thoughts?

21 are good for snow. Not sure if you looking for run flats. Do you get alot of snow? If not go with 22 winter tires staggered run flats. If you get alot of snow belive it or not go with the 20s they are not run flats but entire set I think is like 875 dollars with rims and that includes installation by BMW.

[cochese]

Question. Has anyone run a square 22” setup? One of the reasons we went 21” for now is the ability to rotate the tires.

I could buy 4 individual 22 fronts and run those square, eliminating one of the drawbacks of the 22s.

[dan.lebaron]

I talked to bmw, square 22” are not allowed. You have to drop to a 21” to square up. They programmed the 22s into the system to be offset.

[ksungj]

Originally Posted by dan.lebaron

I talked to bmw, square 22” are not allowed. You have to drop to a 21” to square up. They programmed the 22s into the system to be offset.

I currently have 22" square set up my '24 m60i. I purchased 2 additional front wheels 755m 22x9.5" directly from dealership and brought them 285/40ZR-22 MICHELIN PILOT SPORT ALL SEASON 4 XL. The dealership mounted and installed them before I took delivery of the car. They had no problem doing that for me and didn't mention anything about warranty and such. My question is, does anyone know recommended tire pressure for this setup? Even Michelin's chat helpline couldn't answer the question.

[ksungj]

Originally Posted by cochese

Question. Has anyone run a square 22” setup? One of the reasons we went 21” for now is the ability to rotate the tires.

I could buy 4 individual 22 fronts and run those square, eliminating one of the drawbacks of the 22s.

I've been running 22 square with 285/40/22 Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 4 for a month now. I did this because 1: no complicated tire rotation issues (unmounting and remounting) 2: no winter tire swaps 3: better discounts purchasing 4 tires instead of 2. So far it's been great, quiet and comfortable but then again, I wouldn't know any better because I had this set up since I took delivery. Now the hassle of selling 2 rear wheels and staggered summer tires in Colorado :/

[swissguy]

Originally Posted by achanouh

I found a tire shop in chandler az that was able to get me the Conti dws06+ a/s 275/40 and 315/35 installed with warranty for $1750 out the door

Unbelievable. I wonder why these tires are not offered by BMW? Also Tirerack has these tires yet when you type in BMW X7 as the type vehicle they don't offer these. I am wondering why. I also notice that the UTQG for these tires is 560 vs 280 for the Pirelli and the standard Contis. I wish I had known this before purchasing the nosebleed expensive Continental Premiumcontact 6 SSR tires...

[Orient330iNYC]

Originally Posted by swissguy

Unbelievable. I wonder why these tires are not offered by BMW? Also Tirerack has these tires yet when you type in BMW X7 as the type vehicle they don't offer these. I am wondering why. I also notice that the UTQG for these tires is 560 vs 280 for the Pirelli and the standard Contis. I wish I had known this before purchasing the nosebleed expensive Continental Premiumcontact 6 SSR tires...

1) bmw only offers summer performance tires on any of their wheel upgrades. The dws06 is an all season, hench the much higher treadwear rating.

2) the speed rating isnt the same for the front/rear tires so tire rack wont list them as a matched set. W/Y. Doesnt matter for our application as both are above the highest speed limiter the x7 has.

The conti premium contact 6 is a pretty meh tire. Its a grand touring summer vs the pirelli which is an ultra high performance summer. Asking tire rack, they anticipate that the dws06 to match the dry perf of the premium contact 6 and to exceed the wet perf of the Premium contact 6.

[MM60i]

Got my dws06 installed last week as my Conti summer tires were done at about 16k miles. Softer ride overall, I think quieter too. Looks less sporty but overall not bad in looks department. Pleased with them and hope they are good for next 30k miles or so.

[Igs]

Originally Posted by MM60i

Got my dws06 installed last week as my Conti summer tires were done at about 16k miles. Softer ride overall, I think quieter too. Looks less sporty but overall not bad in looks department. Pleased with them and hope they are good for next 30k miles or so.

What were the sizes? I called all local shops and everyone says they dont make DWS for 22 oem size....

[MM60i]

Originally Posted by Igs

What were the sizes? I called all local shops and everyone says they dont make DWS for 22 oem size....

I ordered from tire rack.

315/35ZR-22 CONTINENTAL
EXTREMECONTACT DWS 06 PLUS XL

275/40ZR-22 CONTINENTAL
EXTREMECONTACT DWS 06 PLUS XL

[swarick]

Just bought a set of the Michelins at COSTCO. Had to wait three weeks for them, but they are on my X7 now. Good ride so far.

[Rathiem]

I was running the same dilemma having purchased used and car was ready for stock offset to be replaced. Other forum members were running 285/45/22 so I chanced it. Bought Pirelli Scorpion AS plus 3. Haven’t looked back. Just completed a 7k round trip from Ohio out west to the national parks and back. Tires are dead quiet have plenty of load rating and I ain’t going over 130. Also don’t worry about anything I’m running over with the added sidewall. BMW dealer wouldn’t recommend or support an install but also said nothing on recent brake fluid service. I had a local tire shop mount and balance. It’s tighter up front but no issues rubbing at all forward or reverse lock to lock and also when I’m in sport lowered. I ran the calibration through the head unit after the change and I’m only off 1mph to GPS nav most of the time going 90. This tire is the truck/suv (scorpion) to the sister line (p zero) they just came out with for high performance all seasons. Bonus is this tire has a prominent rim bump lip both on the fronts and back if you’re a curb junkie. I’m not but I like the look of these tires all the way around. 800 tread wear rating and I like driving spirited and don’t feel like I’m missing anything.
2021 40i msport

[farhandE28]

Originally Posted by Rathiem

I was running the same dilemma having purchased used and car was ready for stock offset to be replaced. Other forum members were running 285/45/22 so I chanced it. Bought Pirelli Scorpion AS plus 3. Haven’t looked back. Just completed a 7k round trip from Ohio out west to the national parks and back. Tires are dead quiet have plenty of load rating and I ain’t going over 130. Also don’t worry about anything I’m running over with the added sidewall. BMW dealer wouldn’t recommend or support an install but also said nothing on recent brake fluid service. I had a local tire shop mount and balance. It’s tighter up front but no issues rubbing at all forward or reverse lock to lock and also when I’m in sport lowered. I ran the calibration through the head unit after the change and I’m only off 1mph to GPS nav most of the time going 90. This tire is the truck/suv (scorpion) to the sister line (p zero) they just came out with for high performance all seasons. Bonus is this tire has a prominent rim bump lip both on the fronts and back if you’re a curb junkie. I’m not but I like the look of these tires all the way around. 800 tread wear rating and I like driving spirited and don’t feel like I’m missing anything.
2021 40i msport

I'm going through this same conundrum right now trying to figure out what route I should take to get A/S on my 22" staggered setup. Appreciate all the great info here. Seems many folks are running 285/45/22 no problems. Couple questions I got if someone can help:

1) This may be a dumb question - when running square 285/45/22 are folks using the same stock 22" staggered wheels (9.5/10.5 i believe?) or are folks getting new wheels for their rears to match the front wheels?
2) If stock wheels, it seems the 285/45/22 can fit no problem on the stock 22"?
3) Where would you guys recommend purchasing a spare tire for the X7?

[Orient330iNYC]

Originally Posted by farhandE28

I'm going through this same conundrum right now trying to figure out what route I should take to get A/S on my 22" staggered setup. Appreciate all the great info here. Seems many folks are running 285/45/22 no problems. Couple questions I got if someone can help:

1) This may be a dumb question - when running square 285/45/22 are folks using the same stock 22" staggered wheels (9.5/10.5 i believe?) or are folks getting new wheels for their rears to match the front wheels?
2) If stock wheels, it seems the 285/45/22 can fit no problem on the stock 22"?
3) Where would you guys recommend purchasing a spare tire for the X7?

1) most people are fitting the same tire to front and rear.
9.5 and 10.5 are within spec for a 285 tire
2) most have reported no issue, but im guessing that might depend on how square the tire u pick is.
3) OEM spare, if you search the forum there should be a listing for the p/n.

the other option is for the conti DWS06 plus. its avail in 275/40/22 and 315/35/22. on TR you need to search seperately, it wont come up as a matching set as the speed ratings are different front and rear ( Y and W, but its a non issue since both exceed the top speed of the x7)

[farhandE28]

Originally Posted by Orient330iNYC

1) most people are fitting the same tire to front and rear.
9.5 and 10.5 are within spec for a 285 tire
2) most have reported no issue, but im guessing that might depend on how square the tire u pick is.
3) OEM spare, if you search the forum there should be a listing for the p/n.

the other option is for the conti DWS06 plus. its avail in 275/40/22 and 315/35/22. on TR you need to search seperately, it wont come up as a matching set as the speed ratings are different front and rear ( Y and W, but its a non issue since both exceed the top speed of the x7)

I am leaning towards the Conti DWS06 plus, seems to make a lot of sense! I have the same Conti's on my Audi and love em. Just want to know my options on the 285/45 square setup as that can lend to ability to rotate tires, which would be nice.

I called BMW and got the part number for the spare - 36115A3E078. I have a wheel well in the rear, just unsure this will fit before purchasing it.

Last question, and I know this I not ideal either, but has anyone found run flat options for the 22" stock wheels in all-season?

[Orient330iNYC]

Originally Posted by farhandE28

I am leaning towards the Conti DWS06 plus, seems to make a lot of sense! I have the same Conti's on my Audi and love em. Just want to know my options on the 285/45 square setup as that can lend to ability to rotate tires, which would be nice.

I called BMW and got the part number for the spare - 36115A3E078. I have a wheel well in the rear, just unsure this will fit before purchasing it.

Last question, and I know this I not ideal either, but has anyone found run flat options for the 22" stock wheels in all-season?

problem with rotating, the 10.5 rears wont fit in front without a spacer. if you want to rotate, you'll need to get a pair of 9.5s

only non summer runflat in the 22" sizes are snow tires...

[farhandE28]

Originally Posted by Orient330iNYC

problem with rotating, the 10.5 rears wont fit in front without a spacer. if you want to rotate, you'll need to get a pair of 9.5s

only non summer runflat in the 22" sizes are snow tires...

Doh, makes sense. Thank you!