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      09-04-2019, 09:35 PM   #23
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holy shit 5100 lbs ?

hard pass.
Can EV's be lightweight?
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Pretty disappointed. Price and weight are equally bloated. Not even going to compete in the same stratosphere as the Model S.

To be fair, interior and exterior fit and finish as well as quality of materials should be leagues above Tesla. But not $50k+ better.
Correct. Why would anyone ever compare a Porsche to Tesla. Couldn’t agree more!
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      09-04-2019, 10:44 PM   #25
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I love the looks especially in blue, side profile and the rear end have to be my favorite angles. Can't wait to hear more from reviews and future owners.
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I'm disappointed in the performance numbers vs. the Model S for the price. BUT, I'd bet that the Porsche finish and quality will run circles around the hodgepodge of quality control output from Tesla. There's more to these cars than just the 0-60 numbers...

Still underwhelmed and disappointed nonetheless but let's see.
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Why are they calling it a "Turbo" when it's not a Turbo?
Because "Turbo" in German translates to: "Buy this car, it fast" and that's all non-enthusiast car shopper with $150k burning a hole in his pocket needs to know.
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5,132 lbs?!?!? :O

Love how they put the charging port on the front fender still though lol.

Can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd rather have the Tesla!
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I'm disappointed in the performance numbers vs. the Model S for the price. BUT, I'd bet that the Porsche finish and quality will run circles around the hodgepodge of quality control output from Tesla. There's more to these cars than just the 0-60 numbers...

Still underwhelmed and disappointed nonetheless but let's see.
I think the numbers will surprise you as will the handling and repeatable performance. You know as well as I that they are super conservative in their claims. The 992 is quoted at 0-62 in 3.6 and runs 3.0 in testing. My guess is the ‘turbo S’ will run 2.0-2.1 and will pull the 1/4 faster than the Model s too. And as far as handling, the Tesla can’t even manage to make a full lap around the Ring yet the pre-prod Taycan ran 7:42 which is quite impressive. I do think the prices are crazy though. If typical, they are both 200k plus cars with options.
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Looks great but expensive

And also if uses the word turbo and over boost. They should call it max amperage or something
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Can EV's be lightweight?
Just to put things into perspective:

Toyota 86 - 2700 lbs
911 GT3 - 3100
F80 M3 - 3500
Model 3 - 3600
Nissan GTR - 3800
Model 3 Performance - 4000
F90 M5 - 4200
Panamera Turbo - 4400
Model S P100D - 4900
Chevy Silverado Crew Cab - 5000
Taycan Turbo - 5100
Panamera E-Hybrid Turbo S - 5100
Rolls Royce Ghost - 5300
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      09-05-2019, 05:15 AM   #32
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The Taycan is a nice looking Porsche......but Turbo and Turbo S for EV vehicles?!?! That's really silly.
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      09-05-2019, 10:45 AM   #33
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Can EV's be lightweight?
Technically yes, but as always there are trade offs. The original i3 was under 2700 lbs, but only had ~80 miles of range
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I think the numbers will surprise you as will the handling and repeatable performance. You know as well as I that they are super conservative in their claims. The 992 is quoted at 0-62 in 3.6 and runs 3.0 in testing. My guess is the ‘turbo S’ will run 2.0-2.1 and will pull the 1/4 faster than the Model s too. And as far as handling, the Tesla can’t even manage to make a full lap around the Ring yet the pre-prod Taycan ran 7:42 which is quite impressive. I do think the prices are crazy though. If typical, they are both 200k plus cars with options.
I think you’re probably right. The Porsche reps in some of the videos are providing better figures than those in the marketing, time will tell I suppose. Should be a good fight
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Man, all you "turbo" moniker haters forget PCs used to have a "turbo" button back in the day. Hahaha
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Yeah, Tesla is also using word "supercharger" which mostly relates to ICE compressors, so I don't see issues with "turbo" for EVs. It's all about marketing.
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The cries about the performance reveal how little these people understand the car. Can the Tesla make even 2 laps of a decent road course without going into limp mode? Can the Tesla make more than perhaps 2 0-100 runs without reducing power to save the battery? It's a paper tiger when asked to do anything more than a single quarter mile run. The Porsche has been designed as a true performance car, not an EV with a large battery that can do circus tricks.

And I don't even care for Porsche!
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      09-05-2019, 08:08 PM   #38
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The last #PorscheTaycan interior review you will ever need to see:
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      09-06-2019, 06:10 AM   #39
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I'm very surprised with the early reactions to this beauty. It's really interesting to see people defending Tesla over this.

"Uhh why is it called a Turbo when it's an EV?"
It's heritage! All car makers had to bend their naming to keep up with the modern times. You guys are ok to call a 2.0L engine M140i but it's sacrilege to name an EV Turbo? Come on...

"It's too expensive"
No shit Sherlock . It's a Porsche. The build quality and the brand image on this totally justifies the difference in my opinion. I think it's a total waste to spend $100k on a Tesla with that shitty build quality. I'd always opt for a lower end Taycan over any Tesla.

"It's not as fast as a Tesla"
Tesla is faster on paper. In real world you need to willingly accept wrecking the batteries for a single ludicrous mode launch. With the Porsche you can pedal to the metal as much as you want and that's what matters the most.

The only thing Tesla has over this thing is auto pilot. That's where Tesla shines and other manufacturers stall.

Apart from that, I think they just nailed it with the Taycan. And I'm pretty sure this will have better sales figures than Tesla in 1-2 years.

People will realize they were bearing with a lot of shitty aspects of a Tesla just because it was first of its kind. Now Tesla has serious competition from a real car manufacturer and people will soon come to their senses.

If Tesla was the first smartphone, then this is the iPhone.
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the concept car looked neat - this is a face lifted Panamera that's all electric
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Pretty neat video of the production line: (automation is incredible)

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What else would they have named it?
Taycan, Taycan S, or Taycan GTS would have been perfectly fine. The Turbo moniker is a bit cringy.

Big fan of Porsche, big fan of Tesla. I have a few of each. That said...the Taycan does absolutely nothing for me. It's safe to say that a significant portion, if not majority of the Taycan's target demographic already own a Tesla. It's going to be difficult to win them over.
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Can the Tesla make even 2 laps of a decent road course without going into limp mode?
Yes. By about the 5th lap around Laguna, you could feel it start to pull power.

Do people forget that there are several mid to high-end sports cars on the market which also have a hard time avoiding limp mode during a session?

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Can the Tesla make more than perhaps 2 0-100 runs without reducing power to save the battery?
I made 5 passes at the drag strip in my Model S without charging in between. The difference between my best and worst runs were 0.185 seconds and 1.3 MPH.
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Anyone else feel that the Taycan front end reminds you a bit of the new Supra?



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