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      03-22-2020, 12:42 PM   #45
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Lovely car and hope you have many miles of fun and safe driving.
I think the grill looks better on a black on black spec, but a bit of an eye sore on lighter colours.

As for me, the new Audi SQ8 or even better, the RSQ8 is the business.
In the ABT spec from the german tuner, this looks menacing and cool in equal measure. What did it for me was the interior that is miles ahead of the similarly priced X7
How is Audi interior miles ahead? That interior looks ugly and busy. I already have enough smart phones and tablets, and I don't need all the interior to be in screens.
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Lovely car and hope you have many miles of fun and safe driving.
I think the grill looks better on a black on black spec, but a bit of an eye sore on lighter colours.

As for me, the new Audi SQ8 or even better, the RSQ8 is the business.
In the ABT spec from the german tuner, this looks menacing and cool in equal measure. What did it for me was the interior that is miles ahead of the similarly priced X7
How is Audi interior miles ahead? That interior looks ugly and busy. I already have enough smart phones and tablets, and I don't need all the interior to be in screens.
Mercedes Benz has the best interior by a mile.
But Audi is a close second. Bmw is third, but it's technology makes it #1 to me.
You can adjust and set everything and everything works well and fast.
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Couldn’t have said it better myself. While my wife drives it primarily, I have found myself looking at prior gen x5ms to replace my cayenne turbo s due to the driving dynamics. The transmission and engine are spectacular. I love it and no issues to speak of.
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Mercedes Benz has the best interior by a mile.
Well, I'd have to disagree (their interiors make my stomach turn )- of course we are miles off topic, and this is personal taste, but here are pictures for everyone.
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Mercedes Benz has the best interior by a mile.
Well, I'd have to disagree (their interiors make my stomach turn )- of course we are miles off topic, and this is personal taste, but here are pictures for everyone.
pictures don't do it justice. sit in any S class Mercedes, and tell me they aren't better feeling.
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pictures don't do it justice. sit in any S class Mercedes, and tell me they aren't better feeling.
They say you should not drive with your eyes closed.
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      03-23-2020, 07:55 AM   #51
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How is Audi interior miles ahead?
Fitment, alignment and smaller gaps between panels. Felt tape installed on any panels that may rub together. Quality of certain materials.

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Mercedes Benz has the best interior by a mile.
When? For over a decade they had the most archaic tech, cheap plastics, rattles and water leaks.
Only as of late have they turned a corner and are producing a product with current tech and better materials but in some of their new vehicles there is a sea of cheap plastic and fake leather. You have to be over $92k+ or in some cases over $100k+ to get real leather or leather covering cheap plastics and hard panels.
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Fitment, alignment and smaller gaps between panels. Felt tape installed on any panels that may rub together. Quality of certain materials.



When? For over a decade they had the most archaic tech, cheap plastics, rattles and water leaks.
Only as of late have they turned a corner and are producing a product with current tech and better materials but in some of their new vehicles there is a sea of cheap plastic and fake leather. You have to be over $92k+ or in some cases over $100k+ to get real leather or leather covering cheap plastics and hard panels.
One of the factors for me in ordering an X7 over a GLS was the quality of the interior. Setting aside individual design preferences (people like what they like) the quality of the materials in the X7 are significantly ahead of the GLS. A couple of things that really stood out to me were the amount of hard plastic in the GLS interior, and the quality of the leather (both the regular and the higher end option) relative to the BMW standard and Merino leather. An X7 is a much nicer place to sit than a GLS.
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Agreed. For a flagship vehicle MB really cut corners on the GLS and I question how well some of those materials will hold up over time.
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How is Audi interior miles ahead?
Fitment, alignment and smaller gaps between panels. Felt tape installed on any panels that may rub together. Quality of certain materials.

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Mercedes Benz has the best interior by a mile.
When? For over a decade they had the most archaic tech, cheap plastics, rattles and water leaks.
Only as of late have they turned a corner and are producing a product with current tech and better materials but in some of their new vehicles there is a sea of cheap plastic and fake leather. You have to be over $92k+ or in some cases over $100k+ to get real leather or leather covering cheap plastics and hard panels.
I had the new Q7 and now with X7 M50i,

Sure if comparing basic X7 40i then interiors are comparable to Audi Q7 prestige line, however when you take the high end trim finishes of X7 then there is quite a difference in plus for BMW.
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One of the factors for me in ordering an X7 over a GLS was the quality of the interior. Setting aside individual design preferences (people like what they like) the quality of the materials in the X7 are significantly ahead of the GLS. A couple of things that really stood out to me were the amount of hard plastic in the GLS interior, and the quality of the leather (both the regular and the higher end option) relative to the BMW standard and Merino leather. An X7 is a much nicer place to sit than a GLS.
Spot on observations. We owned two GL 550's and GLS 550 and we had a loaded 2020 GLE 450 on order for 7 months. When a few GLE's started to trickle into the dealerships I was disappointed with the interiors. Our GLS had the upgraded designo leather which looked and felt very good but the GLE was kind of bland with lots plastic. We never owned a BMW but I always admired the look of the X5 and when first batch of X7's hit the local dealership I couldn't resist and ask for a test drive. I was instantly impressed and took my wife for a test drive the next day and went home with 2019 X7 50i. Needless to say our long-time MB dealership was disappointed when I told them but after 7 months of waiting for the GLE they understood our decision. I've looked in several 2020 GLS's since and I'm very pleased with my decision. But as I often say on these posts, it's your money, buy whatever you want.
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I had the new Q7 and now with X7 M50i,

Sure if comparing basic X7 40i then interiors are comparable to Audi Q7 prestige line, however when you take the high end trim finishes of X7 then there is quite a difference in plus for BMW.
Correct; but panel fitment and gaps remain the same across all variants of the X7. I was also speaking broadly and generally about Audi interiors not specifically about any particular model. One thing that annoyed the hell out of me about the 4M Q7 is the lack of leather dashboard until the 2018 or 2019 model. Ridiculous that a $96k Audi did not have a leather dashboard option unless you did the Exclusive program which added $12k to the sticker. In the end there is always preference as the deciding factor. People have different tastes and value different things. Your car, your cash, your call.
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pictures don't do it justice. sit in any S class Mercedes, and tell me they aren't better feeling.
I currently have a X7 and an SClass. Prior to the X7 I had a 2017 GLS 63AMG. Your SClass comparison is not on the same playing ground and should not be a part of the comparison. I compared the new GLS to the X7 from front to back(3rd row). Once you make it beyond the huge screens that don't really seem integrated into the dash like my current SClass, the interior is extremely bland.

I recently had a 2019 GLE loaner and was beyond disappointed, the interior door handles were already creaking and squeaking. Completely cheap plastics and they don't even attempt to hide it.

The X7 carried life back to the 3rd row and makes you feel as if you are still in a luxury auto. The GLS 3rd row makes you feel as if you are sitting in any ordinary vehicle until you look at the huge driver screens up front.
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^This guy gets it. Unbiased, rational comparison. A+
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Iconoclast, buddy.
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Mercedes interior materials and general quality isn't quite up to par with BMW (except for the S-Class), and I say this as a current Merc owner, but honestly they're all still very nice cars. My G30 5er had better interior materials and quality, yet I still prefer the more interesting and modern design of my CLS (but in the end looks are subjective), and the inferior materials/quality didn't sway my decision in going with the Mercedes over the BMW at all as I greatly enjoy other aspects of the Merc more.

I do agree that they messed up on the GLE/GLS interior though. There's a lot more hard plastics in the GLE that a similar spec'd E-class doesn't have (For example, GLE gets hard plastic lower door pockets but E get soft touch even in base form ) despite the GLE being labeled by Mercedes as "The E-Class of SUV's." I honestly think BMW just hit a home run with the current X5/6/7 interiors. They took the great quality and materials from the 5er and 7er, but fixed the boring design they both have and modernized it.
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Iconoclast, buddy.
Previous. Would you care to see the X7 and the S together?
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In my experience, pre-97 Mercedes had great interior quality and material. Anything made after 1997 from Mercedes is just garbage. Having said that, Mercedes are easier and better to work on from a technician perspective. BMW cut corners here and there when it comes to serviceability.

Audi interior have improved tremendously over the years and in terms of fit and finish, has surpassed both BMW and Mercedes, only behind Porsche. But Audi electronics are still crappy, just like BMW's. Mercedes software interface is better than BMW. Porsche is very reliable when it comes to software, but it is also years behind in terms of technology and functionality. Porsche is always the last one to have anything, but they are usually the best (eg. PDK transmission).
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