10-25-2019, 12:55 AM | #1 |
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X7 with or without dhp?
Hey guys about to pull trigger on an x7 however wanted to get some feedback from whoever has some experience with the dynamic handling package either from x7 or x5 current generation. I have driven an x7 with and without and the only difference I feel is maybe some side to side rocking from the unevenness of the road... But there was about the same amount of body roll which was weird.
I thought this system was suppose to have flat cornering and at the same time be much more comfortable however the differences were extremely small where I barely noticed a difference. I have an 2016 Audi s8 plus and that thing had a ton of body roll... While my dad's s600 maybach has the magic body control similar to dhp in BMW and that thing corners extremely flat it's ridiculous. The new gls has e active body control which now leans the SUV into corners like a motor bike which is crazy but I don't like the gls. All this is said only having driven the x7 dhp for about 5 miles so if any of you guys have more experience with it please let me know your thoughts. I just thought I would be blown away from dhp like I was in the Mercedes.
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10-25-2019, 10:13 AM | #2 |
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These probably won't be popular with the people who did option it, but I didn't want it for 3 reasons:
1. Thought it felt weird. 2. Just another item to brake/maintain/wear out. 3. Added weight...I'm a weight snob on everything I own. |
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Integral steering is probably the best part for me, as it makes the car feel much smaller than it is (note, it is also available as stand alone option).
Road preview system is fantastic as well, particularly if you live in an area with pot holes or bad roads. M Sport Differential on the x50i is a nice feature, but few people are actually going to push an X7 so far that its benefits are truly felt. M Sport brakes are fantastic, but again, it is available as a stand alone option similar to the steering. |
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Also the integral steering only reduces total turning radius of about 1 foot... Making a u turn just didn't seem that much shorter...I really thought I was going to feel a massive difference. I really want to get dhp but only if it would get better as it breaks in? Because the initial test drive was extremely underwhelming.
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I got it, but haven't driven a vehicle with it (yet)
I know I wanted the IAS and M Sport brakes based on the testers I drove and the road preview feature sounded cool, so I added it. |
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10-25-2019, 12:09 PM | #6 |
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I felt a big difference when I test drove both. Is it written anywhere that the difference is just a foot? That would surprise me..
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i really do want to like it though lol but instead of dhp maybe just go with msport since the cost is about the same and i was not really planning on getting that option.
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10-25-2019, 02:55 PM | #10 |
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Perhaps this was already mentioned, are you looking at a 40i? The 40i DHP package doesn't include the M differential so maybe that is why you didn't feel much of a difference.
I have the 2019 50i with m sport and DHP where it comes with the M differential and it makes a big difference. I can make sharp turns and U turns where it feels like the rear wheels would lock and the car can turn 360 degrees like a compass. The integrated active steering makes the car feel smaller in tight corners like parking in small spaces and on the highway changing lanes is very nimble. I do agree that i don't notice anything from the road preview. |
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my main concern was to have flat cornering while also being extremely floaty over bumps from the road preview...i know it sounds kind of crazy but the system in my dads sclass is unbelievable...absolutely flat cornering and extremely smooth bumpy roads.
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I have IAS but not DHP on a 40i / M-sport. Have driven with and without.
I definitely notice the steering improvement. At slow speeds, It's subtle but really helps - in my opinion - maneuvering in parking garages and parallel parking. I live near NYC and it's come in handy but took some getting used to. At first, I would over turn based on my experience in other trucks and it initially felt like the rear wheels were slipping (when it was just the rear wheels kicking out the back). It feels more than a 1 foot improvement in radius, I would guess it provides close to 10-20% improvement which would equate to 2-4 feet shorter radius (but I have no test data to support that, just my gut feel). On the highway, it feels really stable when changing lanes and cornering at speed. It's tough to describe but the vehicle feels more planted and responsive. |
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However the dhp is not doing the job very well imo... I have a 2016 Audi s8 plus...a very large sedan weighing 4700 lbs and this thing has more body roll than anything I have ever driven. Then you have my dad's 2016 s600 maybach an even larger sedan that weighs 5300 lbs but with it's magic body control is the tightest sedan I have ever driven... Almost 0 body roll which is crazy. The feeling in the s600 is unreal because of how about the car is over any type of pavement yet has 0 body around tight turns. I know the dhp is a decent cost but I would much rather pay double for something that works much better. Anyway has anyone run over some pot holes with dhp? Is it in fact more comfortable than running over with non dhp? Lol Thanks for all your help...I think I will just get the ias and skip dhp package.
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The thing that has me particularly interested in DHP is the road preview feature. If the guy in the video below (specifically around the 9:00 mark) is correct, it sounds like it could potentially save a tire from an encounter with a mean pothole.
And as someone who's had to replace five (yes, five) tires within the last year due to sidewall bulges after hitting potholes, that sounds pretty compelling. I wonder if he's right. He sounds like he knows what he's talking about, but... |
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I have driven all 3 versions of X7 as loaners and some had dhp and some did not, I like to get fast in and out of ramps and I think the M50i with dhp was much better on those curvy ramps. At least this was my impression I did not test the car to drive same speed same ramp and make real comparison |
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Obviously no way of knowing whether the DHP in my M50i made the difference or not, but the phrase "There is safety in performance" proved true that day! Last edited by Jefflikescars; 10-28-2019 at 12:58 PM.. |
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One thing to note is that an xDrice 50i with DHP and an M Sport 50i with DHP are essentially the same on driving dynamics other than engine and exhaust. They have the same suspension, brakes and steering. Only difference I can see is that the M Sport has a slightly different exhaust and of course the tuned engine.
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I currently have an X5 with DHP (2016) and bought an X7 last night with it.
We test drove both X5 and X7 with and without. With the X5 I noticed the one without DHP (comparing two M50's) was much bouncier on the same stretch of backroad. My friend not knowing the difference between the two commented that he liked the first one's ride better, which is the one that had DHP. With the X7, I hit the same bump with both, I didn't even notice it in the one with DHP, I bought that car last night. |
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