[Paultattoo]

Originally Posted by alexder

Joemac8: If I were you I would go to the dealer and demonstrate that the feature is not working and demand that they fix it. Rear cross traffic alert is standard on all X7s so it SHOULD be working.

Just ask the dealer, manager and service manager to meet you in the parking lot. Then drive at them doing 5 mph. Everyone will know if it's working right after that.

[Crimsonboz]

Originally Posted by Paultattoo

Just ask the dealer, manager and service manager to meet you in the parking lot. Then drive at them doing 5 mph. Everyone will know if it's working right after that.

Hahahahaha

[nclee]

I live in Europe and have the lasers. I occasionally get flashed (especially by trucks on highway) when using the automatic dimming feature, but almost never when I do the dimming manually.

[rgrovr]

Inability to shut-off IDrive when shutting off the engine via the old-school two-press of the Stop button.

Just silly they removed that option.

[Paultattoo]

Originally Posted by rgrovr

Inability to shut-off IDrive when shutting off the engine via the old-school two-press of the Stop button.

Just silly they removed that option.

When I shut my car off and open the door, sometimes the screen goes off and the stereo shuts off, and sometimes it doesn't. I don't know how many times I've restarted my car with the door open and then shut it off a second time, just to be sure that the car was actually shut off.

[Resjudicata]

Originally Posted by Paultattoo

When I shut my car off and open the door, sometimes the screen goes off and the stereo shuts off, and sometimes it doesn't. I don't know how many times I've restarted my car with the door open and then shut it off a second time, just to be sure that the car was actually shut off.

Originally Posted by Paultattoo

When I shut my car off and open the door, sometimes the screen goes off and the stereo shuts off, and sometimes it doesn't. I don't know how many times I've restarted my car with the door open and then shut it off a second time, just to be sure that the car was actually shut off.

you can just hold the volume button to turn it off. you don't need to restart.

[Paultattoo]

Originally Posted by Resjudicata

you can just hold the volume button to turn it off. you don't need to restart.

I'm not trying to shut off the stereo, I want to make sure I shut off the car.

[aas5]

If you just hit the lock button on the remote or the door handle it doesn’t shut off?

[Paultattoo]

Originally Posted by aas5

If you just hit the lock button on the remote or the door handle it doesn't shut off?

I never lock my doors. I just walk away from the car and it locks itself.

[DSTJ99]

Originally Posted by Paultattoo

When I shut my car off and open the door, sometimes the screen goes off and the stereo shuts off, and sometimes it doesn't. I don't know how many times I've restarted my car with the door open and then shut it off a second time, just to be sure that the car was actually shut off.

I'm in the same boat. Can't figure out the logic as to when it shuts off when I open the door vs keep playing the radio. I have the turn off when door open option checked too. I just lock it or tap the volume button to stop it.

[Resjudicata]

it's a feature. you need to turn off the engine and then HOLD the radio volume off button for 2 MINUTES. eventually everything will shut off.

there is a way to shut off this feature in the menus. call the Genius line and they can walk you through it.

[gatordent2007]

Originally Posted by DSTJ99

I'm in the same boat. Can't figure out the logic as to when it shuts off when I open the door vs keep playing the radio. I have the turn off when door open option checked too. I just lock it or tap the volume button to stop it.

I used to be stumped by this in previous bmw I had but someone finally told me if it senses someone else in the car, the electronics stay on. Even if you just have heavier stuff sitting on the passenger seat, or I think even on the back seats, the electrical stuff stays going. Otherwise it should all turn off once you open the door

[toddwalton]

Originally Posted by DSTJ99

I'm in the same boat. Can't figure out the logic as to when it shuts off when I open the door vs keep playing the radio. I have the turn off when door open option checked too. I just lock it or tap the volume button to stop it.

I just don’t understand the logic or the need.

Maybe it’s just me, but when I arrive at my destination and hit the off button on the car I’m done with my trip and I want the car to turn off and be quiet. I don’t know why music needs to keep playing, especially since without the engine and road noise the moment you hit the stop button the music suddenly appears very loud and very present and gets in the way. If the song or programming I am listening to is that important, I would just sit there with the engine running for a moment or two. It’s awkward.

[mitch57]

Originally Posted by toddwalton

I just don’t understand the logic or the need.

Maybe it’s just me, but when I arrive at my destination and hit the off button on the car I’m done with my trip and I want the car to turn off and be quiet. I don’t know why music needs to keep playing, especially since without the engine and road noise the moment you hit the stop button the music suddenly appears very loud and very present and gets in the way. If the song or programming I am listening to is that important, I would just sit there with the engine running for a moment or two. It’s awkward.

Maybe it's a generational thing. I often sit in the car waiting for my wife or something else. What I had to do with all my other cars is turn the engine off and then either turn the key to "ACC" or push the start button again twice so I could listen to the radio or other music while waiting without burning/wasting gas.

So, for me, it's a double edged sword. Most of the time I just stop the engine and get out which is what I would expect from all my other vehicles and what I'm "accustomed" too. But, for the other 30 to 40% of the time when I"m sitting in the car waiting, it's a nice feature. Plus, I'm not wasting any gas with the engine running.

I think it's just what's known as a "Paradigm" shift. We humans are creatures of habit and when the habit changes we can get confused and frustrated. Even if the change offers benefits we didn't have before. "Old Habits Die Hard"!

[Paultattoo]

Originally Posted by mitch57

Maybe it's a generational thing. I often sit in the car waiting for my wife or something else. What I had to do with all my other cars is turn the engine off and then either turn the key to "ACC" or push the start button again twice so I could listen to the radio or other music while waiting without burning/wasting gas.

So, for me, it's a double edged sword. Most of the time I just stop the engine and get out which is what I would expect from all my other vehicles and what I'm "accustomed" too. But, for the other 30 to 40% of the time when I"m sitting in the car waiting, it's a nice feature. Plus, I'm not wasting any gas with the engine running.

I think it's just what's known as a "Paradigm" shift. We humans are creatures of habit and when the habit changes we can get confused and frustrated. Even if the change offers benefits we didn't have before. "Old Habits Die Hard"!

What I was talking about is that the car does two different things whenever it feels like it.

When I shut off the car by pushing the off/start button. The engine shuts off, the gauges drop and the radio keeps playing until I open the door. Then everything goes off and I know the car is off.

But sometimes, I shut off the car by pushing the off/start button. The engine shuts off, but the gauges stay the same and the radio keeps playing even after I open the door to get out. This is when I will restart and reshut off the car.

[mitch57]

Originally Posted by Paultattoo

What I was talking about is that the car does two different things whenever it feels like it.

When I shut off the car by pushing the off/start button. The engine shuts off, the gauges drop and the radio keeps playing until I open the door. Then everything goes off and I know the car is off.

But sometimes, I shut off the car by pushing the off/start button. The engine shuts off, but the gauges stay the same and the radio keeps playing even after I open the door to get out. This is when I will restart and reshut off the car.

I see. That happens intentionally when the vehicle detects something/someone in another seat in the car.

This has been brought up before. I believe the consensus is that you can't have anyone else or anything heavy enough to register as an occupant including child seats and small animals. So, if the car "Thinks" someone or some other weighted thing is in the car it will continue to play/remain on until it no longer senses these objects or when the door next to the object is open. Then it thinks everyone has exited the vehicle and it's time to power down.

It's called buggy freaking software! When I start seeing this flaky shit happening I reboot iDrive by pressing and holding the radio volume button down until the screen goes black. That fixes things about 90% of the time. It should fix it about 99.5% of the time and shouldn't be required at all.

[Paultattoo]

Originally Posted by mitch57

I see. That happens intentionally when the vehicle detects something/someone in another seat in the car.

This has been brought up before. I believe the consensus is that you can't have anyone else or anything heavy enough to register as an occupant including child seats and small animals. So, if the car "Thinks" someone or some other weighted thing is in the car it will continue to play/remain on until it no longer senses these objects or when the door next to the object is open. Then it thinks everyone has exited the vehicle and it's time to power down.

It's called buggy freaking software! When I start seeing this flaky shit happening I reboot iDrive by pressing and holding the radio volume button down until the screen goes black. That fixes things about 90% of the time. It should fix it about 99.5% of the time and shouldn't be required at all.

My car is empty. Nothing on the seats.

I have also had the car forget or not recognize me and have had to use one of my 8 buttons to get to the driver profile.

[gotzillar]

Dashboard is boring. BMW should really utilize the LCD screen like tesla, audi and Porsche where gives the the driver more customizations.

[Paultattoo]

Originally Posted by gotzillar

Dashboard is boring. BMW should really utilize the LCD screen like tesla, audi and Porsche where gives the the driver more customizations.

My complaint exactly! It's a friggin TV screen. I know there's color in there. Why on earth would you waste it with this bland thing?

I have another gripe about it too; I thing the designers program the screen on a 30 inch monitor that sits 18 inches from their face. All in a properly lighted room that is not moving. But then my 60 year old eyes look at it from 30 inches away on a 10 inch screen in a car that is moving and requiring me to look away from the screen a lot more than look at it.

Make the damn numbers bigger. The speedo. The temp and clock. Everything. I'd like to know what gear I'm in. Not just a D. I'm going forward, I know I'm in D. And I want this info at a glance. AT A GLANCE! Not a search and focus.

[Resjudicata]

Like @mich57 I too spend a lot of time in my car with engine off waiting for kids or wife.

I enjoy the features because it keeps the air on and air conditioning is important to me and the radio. It's annoyingly to go in another car and push the on acc button to keep going while waiting.

And it's so easy to turn off.
1. It auto offs by opening door and settings in menu customization.
2. It turns off by holding the radio button which shuts off the engine after off button.
3. It auto shuts off after 20 minutes NO matter what you do.
4. It turns off after you exit and lock all the doors.

It's automatic and it's a great feature. I think old people have a problem not understanding new technology. And also salesman don't do a good job explaining how it works to older buyers.

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[Paultattoo]

Originally Posted by Resjudicata

Like @mich57 I too spend a lot of time in my car with engine off waiting for kids or wife.

I enjoy the features because it keeps the air on and air conditioning is important to me and the radio. It's annoyingly to go in another car and push the on acc button to keep going while waiting.

And it's so easy to turn off.
1. It auto offs by opening door and settings in menu customization.
2. It turns off by holding the radio button which shuts off the engine after off button.
3. It auto shuts off after 20 minutes NO matter what you do.
4. It turns off after you exit and lock all the doors.

It's automatic and it's a great feature. I think old people have a problem not understanding new technology. And also salesman don't do a good job explaining how it works to older buyers.

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My confusion comes from doing the same thing and getting different results.

Put car in park. Push start/stop button engine shuts off radio still on.

Open door and sometimes the radio shuts off and I'm confirmed the car is off and sometimes I open the door and the radio is still on.

I have the settings set to all off on door open.

[jamesinaz]

Originally Posted by Paultattoo

What I was talking about is that the car does two different things whenever it feels like it.

When I shut off the car by pushing the off/start button. The engine shuts off, the gauges drop and the radio keeps playing until I open the door. Then everything goes off and I know the car is off.

But sometimes, I shut off the car by pushing the off/start button. The engine shuts off, but the gauges stay the same and the radio keeps playing even after I open the door to get out. This is when I will restart and reshut off the car.

Wifes X3 is the same. I never understood it.