Does the automatic 335 have one oil cooler?

mesier1111 · 02-20-2007, 10:01 AM

Hey everyone,

I have an early 2007 335i coupe (was delivered state side in october) and I have both a transmission fluid cooler (its actually some sort of exchange radiator i think) AS WELL AS AN OIL COOLER. My car is also HIGH SPEED SYCHRONIZED. I spoke to the dealer about this yesterday, and it appears that possibly early deliveries of coupes with ATs AND WITH the sports package got coolers for both oil and trans. As far as whether the MT gets two, and the AT get 1, that I do not know. But I just figured I would chime in since some people were finding that they DID NOT have a trans or did not have a oil cooler.

picus · 02-20-2007, 11:31 AM

That's weird. Lucky for you, crummy for the AT guys who didn't get the engine oil cooler. I have the sport package and no oil cooler.

PiperD · 02-24-2007, 03:25 PM

So far all the pics I've seen are of the front bumper. Granted the passenger-side grill is indeed split in two, with one side feeding the brake duct and the other going to the oil cooler.

But I was outside today and looked into the passenger wheel-well directly and the radiator - comprising the air-to-oil cooler - was directly visible, as seen in the attached photo.

Am I correct in understanding that this is the component people are talking about? Car is a Canadian 335i e92 6MT.

gt3jo · 02-24-2007, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by PiperD

So far all the pics I've seen are of the front bumper. Granted the passenger-side grill is indeed split in two, with one side feeding the brake duct and the other going to the oil cooler.

But I was outside today and looked into the passenger wheel-well directly and the radiator - comprising the air-to-oil cooler - was directly visible, as seen in the attached photo.

Am I correct in understanding that this is the component people are talking about? Car is a Canadian 335i e92 6MT.

I have exactly the same vents and there is a cooler in there. You need to take the plastic off to get to the bulbs.....when you change to led angel eyes
I have a AT e91 with M package delivered to Norway, so if the posts stating the cooler issue is related to markets with warm/cold climates it shouldn`t be there on mine but it is.

picus · 02-24-2007, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PiperD

So far all the pics I've seen are of the front bumper. Granted the passenger-side grill is indeed split in two, with one side feeding the brake duct and the other going to the oil cooler.

But I was outside today and looked into the passenger wheel-well directly and the radiator - comprising the air-to-oil cooler - was directly visible, as seen in the attached photo.

Am I correct in understanding that this is the component people are talking about? Car is a Canadian 335i e92 6MT.

Yes, that is it.

I have installed fog bulbs on 4 e92's now, mine and three others. Two were manual coupes and both had the air-to-oil cooler in the front fender well, passenger side, right behind the fog bulb. Both AT's did not have this.

If you open your hood you will see two rubber tubes coming up from the cooler and connecting into the engine, here is my engine, with lines where the tubes would be if I had the oil cooler. Obv I don't have the relevant tubing, since I have no oil cooler.

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As far as I can tell the *only* markets without the oil cooler are Canada and the US, and only AT cars. Why is this the case? I have no idea, probably cost savings. If my car overheats three times BMW gets to buy it back though.

picus · 02-26-2007, 08:36 AM

E-mail I received from BMW...

"Comments: Dear Mr. Hamil,

Thank you for contacting BMW Canada.

As of December 2006 production, the oil cooler is part of the sport package on all vehicles.

Older production had oil coolers only on manual trans.

Sincerely,

Customer Care"

That's just great. So only auto's produced between September and December '06 don't have the oil cooler; every other car does. Awesome. Good going BMW.

archtop · 02-26-2007, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by picus

E-mail I received from BMW...

"Comments: Dear Mr. Hamil,

Thank you for contacting BMW Canada.

As of December 2006 production, the oil cooler is part of the sport package on all vehicles.

Older production had oil coolers only on manual trans.

Sincerely,

Customer Care"

That's just great. So only auto's produced between September and December '06 don't have the oil cooler; every other car does. Awesome. Good going BMW.

That really sucks,right when my production time was.

Ninjaneer · 02-26-2007, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by archtop

That really sucks,right when my production time was.

+1

Any chance BMW can cut me a check for the oil cooler portion that I paid for in the Sport Package but never received?

heh

picus · 02-26-2007, 11:17 AM

E-mail them guys; the only way we will get a resolution or explanation is if we get more than one person on this.

archtop · 02-26-2007, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by picus

E-mail them guys; the only way we will get a resolution or explanation is if we get more than one person on this.

I called them today and they told me if I was having overheating issues take it to the dealer for diagnostics.Other than that there will be no "upgrade".

picus · 02-26-2007, 09:17 PM

Ya, well I guess it'll be a wait and see thing. My car runs hot; not sure if I will overheat come summer, but I won't be surprised if I do. If so I'll just raise hell then.

archtop · 02-27-2007, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by picus

Ya, well I guess it'll be a wait and see thing. My car runs hot; not sure if I will overheat come summer, but I won't be surprised if I do. If so I'll just raise hell then.

I'll be doing the same.

PiperD · 03-05-2007, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by picus

Ya, well I guess it'll be a wait and see thing. My car runs hot; not sure if I will overheat come summer, but I won't be surprised if I do. If so I'll just raise hell then.

What's your operating oil temp picus?

OC ///M · 03-05-2007, 07:53 AM

I am going down to the dealer today to get an extra set of TPMS's, orange reflectors, AND going to see about ordering a complete oil cooler assembly to be installed...

I agree with picus; this whole issue makes me sick.

I'm at sea-level; ambient temps between 65-75 degrees and without pushing it, the oil temp sits at about 240 degrees.

When I'm stomping on it; it gets close to 265 deg...and that's w/o the a/c running AND it's not even hot out yet!!

Can't wait for summer!

Thanks BMW

sdiver68 · 03-05-2007, 07:59 AM

Back in 2001, we all made a stink with BMW about a revised (Lexus-like) steering rack on the 3-series. BMW authorized free replacement racks for those who requested them. Everyone concerned about this issue should contact BMW and complain, perhaps they will retrofit (according to many an "easy" job) for those who request it.

go to the Priority E-Mail at Owners Circle and send your emails today!!!

sdiver68 · 03-05-2007, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by OC kid

I am going down to the dealer today to get an extra set of TPMS's, orange reflectors, AND going to see about ordering a complete oil cooler assembly to be installed...

I agree with picus; this whole issue makes me sick.

I'm at sea-level; ambient temps between 65-75 degrees and without pushing it, the oil temp sits at about 240 degrees.

When I'm stomping on it; it gets close to 260 deg...and that's w/o the a/c running AND it's not even hot out yet!!

Can't wait for summer!

Thanks BMW

1) We have a staged cooling system much more advanced than just a thermostat, don't get too worried yet. It runs hot on purpose for fuel and emissions reasons.

2) Still, let me know what they say about the oil cooler install costs.

OC ///M · 03-05-2007, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sdiver68

go to the Priority E-Mail at Owners Circle and send your emails today!!!

Done...thanks for the info. I'll let you know what they say.

OC kid

picus · 03-05-2007, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by PiperD

What's your operating oil temp picus?

Normal operating temp you mean? ~120C, so right around the half way point on the oil temp gauge.

Guys, if you're irked by this e-mail them.

335boosted2Dmax · 03-05-2007, 10:01 AM

This is why I refuse to buy the beginning line of any car, there are always bugs they need to figure out, but it sounds like BS to me that people are getting screwed out of the extra oil cooler for Auto's that were built in those time slots.

I will be getting my car in the end of 2008 (once this friggin lease is up), hopefully the price will come down a lil also with the new M3 coming out...........

normtrum · 03-05-2007, 10:50 AM

Priority e-mail sent to BMW "owners circle" just now. Everybody else should do the same.

335i sport package, AT, October delivery.

stressdoc · 03-05-2007, 02:58 PM

Just another data point -- my E90 ZSP manual has the oil cooler. I do not think it's an issue unless you are running at autobahn speeds.

OC ///M · 03-05-2007, 10:29 PM

OK...

I found out that the oil cooler assembly complete will cost me about $900. That's actually less than I thought...PLUS install.

Anyone have any idea if installing this would mean removal of the existing "oil cooler heat exchanger system" or would it work in conjunction with it?

Still waiting to hear back from the "priority email" it's probably going to just be a form letter like the ones already posted...can't wait.

Thanks,
OC kid

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mesier1111 Banned 38 Rep 1,626 Posts Drives: 335i coupe, titanium Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bucks County, PA iTrader: (0)	YES, AT's HAVE OIL COOLER Hey everyone, I have an early 2007 335i coupe (was delivered state side in october) and I have both a transmission fluid cooler (its actually some sort of exchange radiator i think) AS WELL AS AN OIL COOLER. My car is also HIGH SPEED SYCHRONIZED. I spoke to the dealer about this yesterday, and it appears that possibly early deliveries of coupes with ATs AND WITH the sports package got coolers for both oil and trans. As far as whether the MT gets two, and the AT get 1, that I do not know. But I just figured I would chime in since some people were finding that they DID NOT have a trans or did not have a oil cooler.
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picus Brigadier General 125 Rep 4,172 Posts Drives: e92 SG 335i Coupe Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto, ON iTrader: (0)	That's weird. Lucky for you, crummy for the AT guys who didn't get the engine oil cooler. I have the sport package and no oil cooler.
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PiperD Clutch pedal >> Dead pedal 18 Rep 709 Posts Drives: '11 e92 335is 6MT Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: GTA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 335is coupe [0.00] 2007 335i coupe [0.00]	So far all the pics I've seen are of the front bumper. Granted the passenger-side grill is indeed split in two, with one side feeding the brake duct and the other going to the oil cooler. But I was outside today and looked into the passenger wheel-well directly and the radiator - comprising the air-to-oil cooler - was directly visible, as seen in the attached photo. Am I correct in understanding that this is the component people are talking about? Car is a Canadian 335i e92 6MT. Attached Images __________________ In my garage: '11 e92 335is 6MT (05/10) SpGrey/CoralRed/GlacSlvr ExecPkg/NavPkg/19" 225M Retired: '07 e92 335i 6MT (12/06) SpklgGrpht/CoralRed/GreyPoplar Retired: '04 330Ci M-Sport 6MT SilverGrey/NaturalTan/MyrtleWood Retired: '00 328Ci 5MT SteelGrey/Grey/MyrtleWood Retired: '87 Pontiac Grand-Am 3AT White/Grey
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picus Brigadier General 125 Rep 4,172 Posts Drives: e92 SG 335i Coupe Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto, ON iTrader: (0)	E-mail I received from BMW... "Comments: Dear Mr. Hamil, Thank you for contacting BMW Canada. As of December 2006 production, the oil cooler is part of the sport package on all vehicles. Older production had oil coolers only on manual trans. Sincerely, Customer Care" That's just great. So only auto's produced between September and December '06 don't have the oil cooler; every other car does. Awesome. Good going BMW.
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picus Brigadier General 125 Rep 4,172 Posts Drives: e92 SG 335i Coupe Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto, ON iTrader: (0)	E-mail them guys; the only way we will get a resolution or explanation is if we get more than one person on this.
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picus Brigadier General 125 Rep 4,172 Posts Drives: e92 SG 335i Coupe Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto, ON iTrader: (0)	Ya, well I guess it'll be a wait and see thing. My car runs hot; not sure if I will overheat come summer, but I won't be surprised if I do. If so I'll just raise hell then.
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OC ///M Dr. Octagon 260 Rep 1,919 Posts Drives: Moonstone e92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: South County iTrader: (0)	I am going down to the dealer today to get an extra set of TPMS's, orange reflectors, AND going to see about ordering a complete oil cooler assembly to be installed... I agree with picus; this whole issue makes me sick. I'm at sea-level; ambient temps between 65-75 degrees and without pushing it, the oil temp sits at about 240 degrees. When I'm stomping on it; it gets close to 265 deg...and that's w/o the a/c running AND it's not even hot out yet!! Can't wait for summer! Thanks BMW Last edited by OC ///M; 03-21-2007 at 09:52 PM..
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sdiver68 Expert Road Racer 59 Rep 1,329 Posts Drives: 07 335i e90, 09 335i e93 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: St. Louis, MO iTrader: (3)	Back in 2001, we all made a stink with BMW about a revised (Lexus-like) steering rack on the 3-series. BMW authorized free replacement racks for those who requested them. Everyone concerned about this issue should contact BMW and complain, perhaps they will retrofit (according to many an "easy" job) for those who request it. go to the Priority E-Mail at Owners Circle and send your emails today!!!
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335boosted2Dmax Banned 12 Rep 323 Posts Drives: Boosted Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Long Island iTrader: (0)	This is why I refuse to buy the beginning line of any car, there are always bugs they need to figure out, but it sounds like BS to me that people are getting screwed out of the extra oil cooler for Auto's that were built in those time slots. I will be getting my car in the end of 2008 (once this friggin lease is up), hopefully the price will come down a lil also with the new M3 coming out...........
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normtrum Colonel 52 Rep 2,225 Posts Drives: e90 335i, e46 330i Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: PNW iTrader: (1)	Priority e-mail sent to BMW "owners circle" just now. Everybody else should do the same. 335i sport package, AT, October delivery.
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stressdoc Moderator 618 Rep 10,858 Posts Drives: BMW i8; Toy 4runner TRD pro Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Waco TX iTrader: (0)	Just another data point -- my E90 ZSP manual has the oil cooler. I do not think it's an issue unless you are running at autobahn speeds. __________________ My recent ED photos: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1026808 my not-so-recent ED: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31829 Please join BMWCCA http://bmwcca.org/index.php?pageid=c...&ref_by=300279
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OC ///M Dr. Octagon 260 Rep 1,919 Posts Drives: Moonstone e92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: South County iTrader: (0)	OK... I found out that the oil cooler assembly complete will cost me about $900. That's actually less than I thought...PLUS install. Anyone have any idea if installing this would mean removal of the existing "oil cooler heat exchanger system" or would it work in conjunction with it? Still waiting to hear back from the "priority email" it's probably going to just be a form letter like the ones already posted...can't wait. Thanks, OC kid
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