[jsmonet]

Every time I've had an x5 loaner I've appreciated driving my x7 more. It's easier to drive, quicker, smoother when it wants to be, and by no means is it difficult to park.

The only reason I'd advise against going with an x7 is if you intend to not option it up. Moving "up" to a base model x7 is silly

[wtwo3]

Jumping on to this thread. Our G05 40i lease is up in October and with a 2nd child on the way, we're considering upgrading to the X7 40i.

When we ordered the G05 back in late 2019, it was before all of the supply chain issues, so we were able to option it with pretty much every option on offer (air suspension, acoustic glass, merino leather with massage seats, heated/cooled cupholders, soft close doors, etc etc).

From that perspective, is there a major difference between the G05 and G07 aside from the obvious more space? I've heard of the smoothness/quietness of the G07 but it seems those are comparing to G05's that don't have options like air suspension and acoustic glass.

[Tr4ckD4ys]

Originally Posted by wtwo3

Jumping on to this thread. Our G05 40i lease is up in October and with a 2nd child on the way, we're considering upgrading to the X7 40i.

When we ordered the G05 back in late 2019, it was before all of the supply chain issues, so we were able to option it with pretty much every option on offer (air suspension, acoustic glass, merino leather with massage seats, heated/cooled cupholders, soft close doors, etc etc).

From that perspective, is there a major difference between the G05 and G07 aside from the obvious more space? I've heard of the smoothness/quietness of the G07 but it seems those are comparing to G05's that don't have options like air suspension and acoustic glass.

In your case mostly space and cool factor

[CarMan77]

I went from an X5 M50i to X7 M50i. I thought I needed more space, but we really did not. The X7 is more than a larger X5. It is a different class of vehicle, materials inside, sound deadening, etc. I was much happier with the X7 than the X5. Ultimately, I determined I did not need such a large vehicle, and the only X5 that interested me was the M. Therefore, I went back to Porsche and picked up a Cayenne E-Hybrid. However, I must say this is the best auto forum.

[Harry2007]

Originally Posted by jsmonet

Every time I've had an x5 loaner I've appreciated driving my x7 more. It's easier to drive, quicker, smoother when it wants to be, and by no means is it difficult to park.

The only reason I'd advise against going with an x7 is if you intend to not option it up. Moving "up" to a base model x7 is silly

Why do you say that, out of curiosity? I want to upgrade primarily for more cargo room. Haha if I get every option I want, it’ll double the cost of the car. The number one reason why I’m considering the change is for more space.

[ppnff]

Originally Posted by wtwo3

Jumping on to this thread. Our G05 40i lease is up in October and with a 2nd child on the way, we're considering upgrading to the X7 40i.

When we ordered the G05 back in late 2019, it was before all of the supply chain issues, so we were able to option it with pretty much every option on offer (air suspension, acoustic glass, merino leather with massage seats, heated/cooled cupholders, soft close doors, etc etc).

From that perspective, is there a major difference between the G05 and G07 aside from the obvious more space? I've heard of the smoothness/quietness of the G07 but it seems those are comparing to G05's that don't have options like air suspension and acoustic glass.

If you have a fully optioned G05 40i, then going to a G07 40i might feel like a downgrade given the de-contenting and lack of options with the 40i. Your last paragraph is accurate - I expect the comparison is G05 without the air suspension and without the acoustic glass. I went to the G07 M50i - more power and more options.

Good luck!

[Wanderer73]

Originally Posted by Al Pin　

I assume you're referring to the 3rd row seating? Rear legroom in the second row is identical in the X5 and X7 at just over 37 inches.

True, in the base position, but the X7 2nd row slides back another ~4", making a noticeable difference from the X5, in my opinion (I've got bench seating). Covered here: https://g07.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1587751

[mjr24]

We just got a X7 in August. Love it. Definitely spacious for car seats.

I also just picked up an X5M last month and I can't really imagine putting car seats in it.

[wtwo3]

Originally Posted by ppnff

If you have a fully optioned G05 40i, then going to a G07 40i might feel like a downgrade given the de-contenting and lack of options with the 40i. Your last paragraph is accurate - I expect the comparison is G05 without the air suspension and without the acoustic glass. I went to the G07 M50i - more power and more options.

Good luck!

Thanks for the input. Yeah I've considered the G07 M50i, just not sure I want a $1,700/month car payment especially since my G20 lease is also up this October and I'm thinking of upgrading that to a G80. The one thing that's concerning is the lack of options on the 40i, but I wonder if some of those options make a come back for MY23?... I guess we'll see.

[ZFX7]

Originally Posted by Al Pinã

I assume you're referring to the 3rd row seating? Rear legroom in the second row is identical in the X5 and X7 at just over 37 inches.

Except for the fact that the X7 middle row will move back and increase that legroom significantly. We went with the X7 primarily for that reason so my kids are able to stretch their legs out a bit. Not to mention the reclining middle row. X5 fixed bench was a no-go for us.

[Al Pinã]

I own one of these and can confirm that there's no more room than an X5 in the second row. I still need to move my seat forward for anyone to sit behind me, and that's with the 3rd row folded flat, 2nd row all the way back.

That thread that you link to has no measurements listed. Just a picture of a guy sitting in the back seat. I'm about 6'7" and the wife is 5'9". You couldn't fit a midget behind me and even she has to scoot her seat forward for rear passengers.

I'll break out the measuring tape tomorrow I guess..

[Tr4ckD4ys]

Originally Posted by Al Pinã

I own one of these and can confirm that there's no more room than an X5 in the second row. I still need to move my seat forward for anyone to sit behind me, and that's with the 3rd row folded flat, 2nd row all the way back.

That thread that you link to has no measurements listed. Just a picture of a guy sitting in the back seat. I'm about 6'7" and the wife is 5'9". You couldn't fit a midget behind me and even she has to scoot her seat forward for rear passengers.

I'll break out the measuring tape tomorrow I guess..

Damn. You are one tall fella. I’m not surprised any 2nd row behind you will be tight.

[Al Pinã]

I just know for a fact that there's simply no more room than an X5 because when we had a 2016 X5 we needed to upgrade to something larger. BMW invited us to the private premier of the X7 in like 2018 or something. I remember being super disappointed with the second row leg room, so much so that we ended up getting a 2019 750 instead.

I'm not sure what some of these people are talking about with the magical 4 additional inches of room. It simply doesn't exist.

[Mail4loys]

Originally Posted by Al Pinã

I just know for a fact that there's simply no more room than an X5 because when we had a 2016 X5 we needed to upgrade to something larger. BMW invited us to the private premier of the X7 in like 2018 or something. I remember being super disappointed with the second row leg room, so much so that we ended up getting a 2019 750 instead.

I'm not sure what some of these people are talking about with the magical 4 additional inches of room. It simply doesn't exist.

This is what motor trend review says:

The X7 puts more emphasis on comfort for passengers in the second row than the X5, evidenced by its greater headroom and legroom: 39.9 and 37.6 inches, compared to 39.4 and 37.4 inches, respectively.

https://www.motortrend.com/features/...bmw-x5-and-x7/

Looks like there is difference but not by a wide margin

[Staszek]

Originally Posted by Al Pinã

I just know for a fact that there's simply no more room than an X5 because when we had a 2016 X5 we needed to upgrade to something larger. BMW invited us to the private premier of the X7 in like 2018 or something. I remember being super disappointed with the second-row legroom, so much so that we ended up getting 2019 750 instead.

I'm not sure what some of these people are talking about with the magical 4 additional inches of room. It simply doesn't exist.

I tend to agree with you, I haven't measured, but it doesn't feel like the X7 has any more second row leg room over our current X5, the room is all in the third row and the truck, that is a huge difference from our X5's third row.

The 750 has a way bigger backseat, it's also longer than the X7. I have the 750 now and its hard to reach my son in his car seat to give him food.

I had no problem doing that in the X5 or the X7 we tested.

[unfoundnemo]

Originally Posted by Harry2007

Why do you say that, out of curiosity? I want to upgrade primarily for more cargo room. Haha if I get every option I want, it’ll double the cost of the car. The number one reason why I’m considering the change is for more space.

I'm sure jsmonet will chime in, but OP specially wasn't looking to upgrade to the X7 from the X5 for space reasons, so he was simply pointing out that going from an X5 to a base X7 might not necessarily as much of an "upgrade".

[ZFX7]

I’m so confused by these comments about the second row leg room being the same in the X5 and X7. I don’t care that the specs say the legroom in both is nearly identical. The fact is that the X7 middle row legroom is variable, as everyone here knows. We need to understand what BMW’s measurement reference points were. 37.6” from what position? With the driver’s seat where and the middle row where?

Sure, my own experience is anecdotal, but with the X5 driver’s seat in a comfortable position for me (at 6’2”), my legs were touching the driver’s seat back when I sat in the back seat. With the X7 driver’s seat in a comfortable position and the middle seat all the way back, I felt like I had at least another 2-3” of room and felt far less claustrophobic.

[jsmonet]

Originally Posted by unfoundnemo

I'm sure jsmonet will chime in, but OP specially wasn't looking to upgrade to the X7 from the X5 for space reasons, so he was simply pointing out that going from an X5 to a base X7 might not necessarily as much of an "upgrade".

Indeedy. Much of what makes the x7 special/better/etc is bound up in the options. If you leave off DHP, the x7 just doesn't drive nearly as well and it becomes a lot less "special" compared to the x5 in the areas the x7 provides advantage. If you're looking at the x7 as simply a fatter x5, then whatevs.

The creature comforts conspire to make the x7 a much more livable beast, and I dare say there isn't -that- wide a gulf between the higher models between the x5 and x7 because the x5 m50i, fully-optioned, is a really good vehicle.

The absolute worst case scenario is going from a well-optioned x5 to a fairly stripped x7 and I just can't imagine the level of buyer's remorse from that.

[mjr24]

Originally Posted by Staszek

I tend to agree with you, I haven't measured, but it doesn't feel like the X7 has any more second row leg room over our current X5, the room is all in the third row and the truck, that is a huge difference from our X5's third row.

The 750 has a way bigger backseat, it's also longer than the X7. I have the 750 now and its hard to reach my son in his car seat to give him food.

I had no problem doing that in the X5 or the X7 we tested.

I have to disagree....I definitely feel our X7 with bench has more room in the second row than our X5.

[Staszek]

Originally Posted by mjr24

I have to disagree....I definitely feel our X7 with bench has more room in the second row than our X5.

Measure it with the seats all the way back, I will measure my X5 tonight. It may be slightly longer but it's not much.

[ppnff]

Originally Posted by mjr24

I have to disagree....I definitely feel our X7 with bench has more room in the second row than our X5.

I agree with mjr24 - the second row is noticeable bigger when the second row seats are fully pushed back.

[toddwalton]

Originally Posted by Harry2007

Hello,

Currently, I have an X5 that I bought in April. I stumbled on an X7 on cars.com that sparked my interest. Has anyone recently made the move from an X5 to X7? The local dealership is offering me more than what I paid to trade in my X5. I have a 3 and 5 year old, and their car seats render the back useless.

We made the move 3 years ago from the X5 to the X7 and we did so strictly for the 3rd Row seat which is a must-have.

If you've got grandparents and playdates in your future, you need the 3rd Row so you need an X7.