[Etnies]

Originally Posted by justice

+1.. I don't think there is a demand or need for a 5 series coupe let alone the actual 5 series sedan.

You don't think there is demand or need for the 5 series sedan? WTF are you on? The benchmark for all mid-size sedans is and has been for a long time, the 5 series. People love, people buy it. There will always be demand for a mid-size luxury sedan.

If any of you think it will be phased out due to the 3 getting more expensive or a few extra cubic inches, then you sound rather retarded to me.

[Los Angeles]

Originally Posted by Boost_Nation

I understand that you fellas are talking about the status level and size of the cars in relation to what they compare with. Like for example, since the 6 series is so big, lux, and expensive....it's similar to buying a coupe version of a 7 series.

The reason why I say the 6 series is a 2-door version of the 7 is because the design of the 6 resembles the 7-series.

Not so much the front, but definitely the back. The trunk and tailights.

The redesigned 7-series looks more distinct with larger lights going across the trunk but the 2003 7-series resembles the 2006 6 series from the back.

And yes, the pricing is similar.

[NaTuReB0Y]

nothin' can save the 5 series from the bottom of the totem pole....in sales.

it's still one ugly mutha f*ckin' car........

[x5love]

Originally Posted by Los Angeles

The reason why I say the 6 series is a 2-door version of the 7 is because the design of the 6 resembles the 7-series.

Not so much the front, but definitely the back. The trunk and tailights.

The redesigned 7-series looks more distinct with larger lights going across the trunk but the 2003 7-series resembles the 2006 6 series from the back.

And yes, the pricing is similar.

EXACTLY.

and everyone is missing the OP's point, he thinks that a car with the same look as a 5 series but with 2 doors instead of 4 would be cool.

Personally I don't agree but I see where you're coming from.

Yes the 6 series is based off of the 5 series platform, but it is CLEARLY closer to a 7 series in terms of looks and price, and if its going to be the coupe version of anything, for now it is definitely the coupe version of the 7.

Everything from the side profile to the rear lights (not so much on the facelifted 7) to the style of the eyebrow headlights... even the interiors share traits. If you want to get technical both cars were based off of the Z9 Concept car.

In terms of platform, it is a 5 series coupe. In terms of marketing an appearance, it is a 7 series coupe.

Originally Posted by NaTuReB0Y

nothin' can save the 5 series from the bottom of the totem pole....in sales.

it's still one ugly mutha f*ckin' car........

Then why do I see them everywhere the f*ck I go?!?

Just because you think the car is ugly doesn't mean it doesn't sell, that type of logic really bothers me.

[daixloxbmw]

6 equals 5 minus 2 doors. just because it looks more like the 7 does not make it a 7 series coupe. they are completely different chassis, the 6's chassis is still derived from the 5.

and yes, the 7 coupe WAS formerly the 8.

also, the 6 is closer in price to the 7 simply because it is a coupe/convertible which always commands a higher base price right off the bat. not to mention the fact that the 650i is loaded with the top 5 engine and many of the features from the 5 and the 7. if you loaded a 335i coupe with all the goodies that come standard with the 535i, the price would be pretty similar but that still doesnt make the 3 equal a 5 coupe.

to comment on the reason why bmw decided against renaming the entire lineup like this...

1 = sedan
2 = coupe
3 = sedan
4 = coupe
5 = sedan
6 = coupe
7 = sedan

this would make sense "logically" but would not in terms of marketing. the 4 series would eventually need an M car... would bmw be willing to give up the infamous M3 moniker to replace it with an unknown/unheard of M4? then all future M3's will only be available as sedans? this is already a problem for BMW since it seems reluctant to name the M version of the 1 series as an M1 since it was originally their supercar... "1 series tii"???

[Etnies]

Thank you for posting something sensible in here, notably why the 6 is still more of a 5 than a 7.

[x5love]

Originally Posted by daixloxbmw

6 equals 5 minus 2 doors. just because it looks more like the 7 does not make it a 7 series coupe. they are completely different chassis, the 6's chassis is still derived from the 5.

and yes, the 7 coupe WAS formerly the 8.

also, the 6 is closer in price to the 7 simply because it is a coupe/convertible which always commands a higher base price right off the bat. not to mention the fact that the 650i is loaded with the top 5 engine and many of the features from the 5 and the 7. if you loaded a 335i coupe with all the goodies that come standard with the 535i, the price would be pretty similar but that still doesnt make the 3 equal a 5 coupe.

to comment on the reason why bmw decided against renaming the entire lineup like this...

1 = sedan
2 = coupe
3 = sedan
4 = coupe
5 = sedan
6 = coupe
7 = sedan

this would make sense "logically" but would not in terms of marketing. the 4 series would eventually need an M car... would bmw be willing to give up the infamous M3 moniker to replace it with an unknown/unheard of M4? then all future M3's will only be available as sedans? this is already a problem for BMW since it seems reluctant to name the M version of the 1 series as an M1 since it was originally their supercar... "1 series tii"???

Don't forget that when the 6 series launched it was marketed as a replacement of the 8 series. And you guys can't just say so what to cars that share a design language. In the car industry a simply chasis or platform doesn't deem what a car is--marketing and design play huge roles, and for that reason the 6 can be clearly seen as a 7 series coupe... it just depends on what angle you are looking at it from.

[Neema]

Originally Posted by NaTuReB0Y

it's still one ugly mutha f*ckin' car........

correction, in your opinion.

[Neema]

Originally Posted by Los Angeles

The reason why I say the 6 series is a 2-door version of the 7 is because the design of the 6 resembles the 7-series.

Not so much the front, but definitely the back. The trunk and tailights.

The redesigned 7-series looks more distinct with larger lights going across the trunk but the 2003 7-series resembles the 2006 6 series from the back.

And yes, the pricing is similar.

oh ok, well no......then thats not right. I thought you had more firm evidence or proof to support your idea. But it's just your opinion based on the exterior styling, which is not how you determine where a car is derived from. So thanks, but nevermind

[Neema]

Originally Posted by GAMEgates

anywaaayyysss idk bout the OP but i'd take my 335 coupe over any 5'er anyday.. 5's are cool and all but if i were to get a 5 it would have to have a M before the 5.

not even an M-Sport 550i...........the 08 face lifted version too!

[shragon]

agree with others the 6er is basically a coupe to the 5er.

[ChrisFastM3]

.............am I the only one here who's wondering how this thread got so long?

[Raja Ventureshield]

great idea. do u think they 5 series coupe should alos come in a convertible?

lol. j/k

Riaaaja

[JDiddy06]

The 6 is its own model line.. Coupe, Vert, M. A totally different animal than the 5-Series or 7-Series. Which IMO don't need to have a coupe version. Not every Series needs to offer both coupe and sedan since anyone in the market to spend upwards of 60k is more of less looking for model exclusivity. Price range is similar to the 7, no question, but its completely different than the 335 Sedan/Coupe. In the sense that the 335 is the same car (roughly) but availble in both forms where the 5, 6 and 7 are each their own flavor.

As for a 5-Series coupe? Eh.. it might look ok but I dont even see much demand for something like that. 60-65k 550i Coupe? Tough market. Making a 535i coupe would be pointless IMO.

[voltron1011]

Originally Posted by JDiddy06

The 6 is its own model line.. Coupe, Vert, M. A totally different animal than the 5-Series or 7-Series. .

The 5 and 6 series' are both built on the same chassis.

[x5love]

Originally Posted by voltron1011

The 5 and 6 series' are both built on the same chassis.

Wow this thread is going in circles.




It depends how you define the model.

The 6 can be three things:

5 series Coupe

7 series Coupe

Its own exclusive vehicle.

ALL THREE ARE JUSTIFIED DEPENDING ON WHAT ANGLE YOU LOOK AT THE CAR FROM.

Read the thread and you'll see great arguments for all three.

[Year's_End]

Originally Posted by ChrisFastM3

.............am I the only one here who's wondering how this thread got so long?

Yeah actually I am wondering that. I kinda answered the question in the second post.

[cycler]

a 6 series is not a 5 series. Its more like a 7 series coupe. Otherwise it wouldnt be 25K more

[voltron1011]

"The BMW 6 Series Coupe has taut steering and suspension systems that endow it with sportier handling than the BMW 5 Series midsize sedan on which the coupe is based." -Forbes Auto

"Bristling with the latest in technology, they are based on the superb new 5 Series chassis..." -New Car Testdrive...

"Based on the 5-Series platform, the all-new 6 is likely to be impressive in terms of dynamic ability.." -Auto Expresss UK

"The 6 Series coupe is based on the 5 Series sedan, and shares its powerful 4.8-liter V8 teamed with a smooth, quick-shifting automatic..." -New York Times Auto

[Year's_End]

Originally Posted by cycler

a 6 series is not a 5 series. Its more like a 7 series coupe. Otherwise it wouldnt be 25K more

Come on. Seriously?

[ik999]

Originally Posted by tmoney

+1. 5er cars are marketed towards the middle aged crowd, most of whom have kids. They're not likely to buy coupes. The 6er mainly competes with the Benz SL, which has slightly "older" customers. And the 3er coupe is for the younger customers. Just doesn't make any business sense to have a 5er coupe.

I don't see the 6 as being a 7-coupe

it's more of a 5-coupe than anything

I also don't see it as being an SL-competitor

it's more of a CLK competitor

imo, BMW doesn't make anything which compares with the SL

[John]

more options the better. thats how i see it