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      04-29-2008, 05:00 AM   #45
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those dynos are from what i have seen on my own dyno days, different dynos and so on for different cars of course.

as for the 91 octane and pulling timing, that is all speculation on some peoples parts esp when there isnt hard fact and tech equipment used to determine that? there are so many cali people using 91 without any issues. i cant see why bmw would put a high altitude 11 psi mode on there car when 91 octane cant handle this. i think this whole story came from a members dyno on e90post where they saw a small dip in a members car, where as Shiv, PROcede's main guy, rose to say that the dip was pretty normal and wasnt timing being pulled.
FWIW here is a jb2, with a dip in its line if you wanna stick with that old myth logic.
Drop-in Air Filter Dyno Test - K&N vs Helene vs Stock - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum - E90Post.com
Even better. He did round 2 of the Drop-in Filter Dynos.

Air Filter Dyno Testing - Round 2 - K&N vs Helene vs ITG vs BMC vs BMS vs Stock

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137667
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      05-05-2008, 11:43 AM   #46
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Even better. He did round 2 of the Drop-in Filter Dynos.

Air Filter Dyno Testing - Round 2 - K&N vs Helene vs ITG vs BMC vs BMS vs Stock

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137667
We are waiting for our prototype Piper Cross filter to get here from England. Then we will run similar testing with it versus stock filter.

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      05-06-2008, 10:37 AM   #47
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what does 40 WHP converted into Crank Horse Power make?
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I think whp is ~15% less crank.
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what does 40 WHP converted into Crank Horse Power make?

I would guess about 45.5HP at the crank .. based on about 12% loss ..

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      05-06-2008, 12:26 PM   #50
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well how come people say that the 135i has 267 whp stock, so it has 330 crank horse power stock right?

so wouldnt 40 whp convert into like 60 crank horse power?
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      05-06-2008, 01:08 PM   #51
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^ its all aproximations, different dynos give different numbers. a rule of thumb is 12-15% hp loss from the crank to the wheels. just do the math.
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To the OP, could you do a dyno again after getting the newer software downloaded, which will happen at the first oil change?
There's a rumor torque is limited with the software update.
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To the OP, could you do a dyno again after getting the newer software downloaded, which will happen at the first oil change?
There's a rumor torque is limited with the software update.
: e90 and all your rumors will have answers.'

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Progman 29.2 will not change power out put with the SSTT. We have tested both ways

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Progman 29.2 will not change power out put with the SSTT. We have tested both ways

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So as of right now SSTT is the only one out there not throwing up issues with 29.2 and the post March builds?
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      05-12-2008, 03:31 PM   #56
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I asked the question in your other post about having this plus other mods on v81. Would the SSTT combined with say dp's or a catback cause a code?
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      05-13-2008, 12:47 AM   #57
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: e90 and all your rumors will have answers.'

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Why don't you just say "search the F--ing internet" It's one thing to ask someone to search a forum they posted in, but pretty uselss to tell someone to search another forum.
And if you're going to tell someone to search, you should provide the link, otherwise just move on.
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Why don't you just say "search the F--ing internet" It's one thing to ask someone to search a forum they posted in, but pretty uselss to tell someone to search another forum.
And if you're going to tell someone to search, you should provide the link, otherwise just move on.
If you are going to ask me to spend money to answer your speculative question, why don't you just paypal me the money for the oil change (which will get me the new software) and the next dyno?

Do you realize how F--ing stupid your request was?

: e90 and you will have at least 10 thread talking about every tune and the guesses related to how they will effect the car. SHIV/JIM/TERRY/JEFF have all weighted in.

Here since you can't find your own answers, the top 30 thread in the turbo motor section have at least 7 of them dedicated to what you are looking for. Just read the titles (or is that to F--ing hard??).

http://www.e90post.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=58
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      05-13-2008, 07:04 PM   #59
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Like you said, they're all guesses. You have an opportunity to set the record straight on the torque limitations that's also speculated. since you did a before dyno. What's the point to reading other people's speculation.

And nowhere did I say to get an update now or to get an oil change now.
You still didn't show me a link with any info regarding V29.2 limiting torque or possibly showing it's all BS.

I'll say again, asking people to search on another forum is just stupid. Some of us have a life and can't surf 10 different forums. If it was posted here, I'll take my b!tch slap, no problem.
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whats so hard about hitting the search button and typing in what your looking for instead of making other people do it.
just my .02 cents.
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Like you said, they're all guesses. You have an opportunity to set the record straight on the torque limitations that's also speculated. since you did a before dyno. What's the point to reading other people's speculation.

And nowhere did I say to get an update now or to get an oil change now.
You still didn't show me a link with any info regarding V29.2 limiting torque or possibly showing it's all BS.

I'll say again, asking people to search on another forum is just stupid. Some of us have a life and can't surf 10 different forums. If it was posted here, I'll take my b!tch slap, no problem.
It was posted there. No torque limiter. SSTT is not throwing codes or secrete codes. Jeff has tested this on BMW eq. With his personal 135i.

I suggest you read the e90 threads as they discuss all tunes and all tuners weight in. Jim C shark seems to be the long term best option if you are going to do more upgrades than JB1 or SSTT
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I am not sure that there is any definitive info on the 29.2 at this point. Not even when it is applied. Just info on the v81.
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So as of right now SSTT is the only one out there not throwing up issues with 29.2 and the post March builds?
: e90 and you'll find out.















jb1 works, jb2 works if you remove one of the connections, maybe others. the relationship between v81 (post march) and v80 w/ 29.2 is that anything that works on v81 works with v80, but not everything that works with v80 works with v81 because 29.2 does 4 tests wherast v81 does those 4 tests + a bunch more.
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      05-13-2008, 09:19 PM   #64
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One of the big differences between the 29.2 PROGMAN and v81 seems to be that the 29.2 will remain more tolerant to flashes than the v81.
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Still haven't seen any dyno's of before and after 29.2 stock and before/after with a piggy. It would be interesting since some have reported their car's felt slower after 29.2.
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Was there a reason the dyno graphs were pulled and half the text is now gone?
I am wondering the exact same thing. :bs:
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