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      08-03-2009, 12:53 AM   #155
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You want to be big and bulky, then up your calories and go to the split. This is the split I do when I'm going for strength and size. I do around 4 or 5 different movements with 3 sets at 6 to 10 reps.

Mon- Chest
Tues-Biceps/Abs
Wed-Legs
Thurs-Shoulders/Tris
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Your body needs rest in the middle somewhere. I suggest this:


Mon - Legs; Abs; Calves
Tues - Chest; Abs; Traps
Weds - Off
Thurs - Back; Abs; Calves
Fri - Arms; Abs; Calves
Sat - Shoulders; Abs; Traps
Sun - Off
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So I took advice from some people here and at the gym

and I made a new workout routine. . .

Tell me what you think..

( My goal is not to get lean or tone, my goal is to get big and bulky)

each day I work on a different body part. 2 body parts a day. For example,

Today I only did my biceps & triceps. I did about 4-5 "workouts," each body part and I did 3 sets of

1st set - 12 reps
2nd set - 10 reps
3rd set - 8 reps

but as I get lower with the "reps," I increase the "weight."



How does that sound?

So basically I workout every single day but with different body parts.
Try doing bi's and tri's on separate days. You'll be able to lift more.
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That how Arnold was able to do Chest, Back, Legs, Abs, Calves, Forearms every Mon, Wed, Fri and Biceps, Tris, Shoulders every Tuesday, Thurs, Sat. Some days two a days. No one would be able to recover in time to promote growth unless they ate d-bol for every meal like him.
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Your body needs rest in the middle somewhere. I suggest this:


Mon - Legs; Abs; Calves
Tues - Chest; Abs; Traps
Weds - Off
Thurs - Back; Abs; Calves
Fri - Arms; Abs; Calves
Sat - Shoulders; Abs; Traps
Sun - Off
awesome. Abs 5/week and arms 4x/week. Recovery is overrated anyways.
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Your body needs rest in the middle somewhere. I suggest this:


Mon - Legs; Abs; Calves
Tues - Chest; Abs; Traps
Weds - Off
Thurs - Back; Abs; Calves
Fri - Arms; Abs; Calves
Sat - Shoulders; Abs; Traps
Sun - Off
Too many times a week for abs and calves. Why would you do arms the day after back? My split takes into account secondary muscles and recovery.
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Too many times a week for abs and calves. Why would you do arms the day after back? My split takes into account secondary muscles and recovery.
Not too many times a week for abs and calves.

Yeah I guess you could switch arms and shoulders around.

This routine never gave me any problems though.
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Not too many times a week for abs and calves.

Yeah I guess you could switch arms and shoulders around.

This routine never gave me any problems though.
Hey, it might work for you, I don't know. One thing I've learned from all these years is that there's no routine that fits all. I switch it up every month or so, works best for me. Currently I'm doing mma type training at the gym to up my endurance, it's rough, but rewarding.
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Your body needs rest in the middle somewhere. I suggest this:


Mon - Legs; Abs; Calves
Tues - Chest; Abs; Traps
Weds - Off
Thurs - Back; Abs; Calves
Fri - Arms; Abs; Calves
Sat - Shoulders; Abs; Traps
Sun - Off
Terrible routine. Chest, shoulders, back once a week and then a bunch of calves and abs lol. Post pics of your "results".
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Terrible routine. Chest, shoulders, back once a week and then a bunch of calves and abs lol. Post pics of your "results".
Lol...there is nothing wrong with doing one muscle group once a week. You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
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( My goal is not to get lean or tone, my goal is to get big and bulky)
so you want to look nasty? Or are you a skinny twig lookin guy and just want to pack on some mass?

in any case, if you don't care about lean gains and a nice toned look it's very easy to achieve what you're wanting here... eat, eat, eat & train.. and I mean eat A LOT, like 10,000 calories a day.. eat nasty, fattening, carb filled, protein filled foods.. high in calories.. you'll gain weight, trust me... and it will be big and bulky fugly weight, but if that's what you want, you can get it this way..

BUT if you wanna look good, and still pack on some muscle, clean muscle/clean mass lemme know and I'll write you a diet and training split
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in any case, if you don't care about lean gains and a nice toned look it's very easy to achieve what you're wanting here... eat, eat, eat & train.. and I mean eat A LOT, like 10,000 calories a day.. eat nasty, fattening, carb filled, protein filled foods.. high in calories.. you'll gain weight, trust me... and it will be big and bulky fugly weight, but if that's what you want, you can get it this way..

BUT if you wanna look good, and still pack on some muscle, clean muscle/clean mass lemme know and I'll write you a diet and training split
wtf are you talking about? if anyone consumed 10k calories per day and didn't train long enough to burn off those calories, they'd get fat fast.

there's *no* difference between a dirty or clean bulk. sure it's slightly easier to consume more calories on a dirty bulk without realizing it, but at the end of the day, calories are calories...whether they come from whole grain rice or donuts.

to the OP, if you're working out and not putting on weight, eat more. if you find you're still not putting on any size, increase the food :P eventually you'll find a point where you're body has a surplus of calories...that's when you'll start to grow.
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so you want to look nasty? Or are you a skinny twig lookin guy and just want to pack on some mass?

in any case, if you don't care about lean gains and a nice toned look it's very easy to achieve what you're wanting here... eat, eat, eat & train.. and I mean eat A LOT, like 10,000 calories a day.. eat nasty, fattening, carb filled, protein filled foods.. high in calories.. you'll gain weight, trust me... and it will be big and bulky fugly weight, but if that's what you want, you can get it this way..

BUT if you wanna look good, and still pack on some muscle, clean muscle/clean mass lemme know and I'll write you a diet and training split
HAHAHA. Riding a wheelie without proper gear + giving advice on something you have no clue about makes you a tool.

Do you even know how much 10K calories is?!? The "MASS GAIN" meal plans in most lifting magazines have you eating 7 meals along with 6-8 scoops of protein a day and still is under 5K calories! WTF are you smoking son?

If you want a good magazine for advice I have found that most advice in Men's Health is pretty good stuff.
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Wtf? lol

I mentioned before that I wanted to be bulky and somewhat toned.

I made a new workout

Tri's, Bi's

Chest (upper, middle, lower), shoulders, deltoid

Upper back, lower back,
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Like mentioned before I would avoid tris and bis in the same day. I do

Chest, Tris
Back Bis
Legs Shoulders

I take a rest day after 2 consecutive workouts. I know when the shoulders is followed by a chest day it overlaps a bit with secondary muscles but it works great for me and the guy that trains with me.
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I have found splits centered around back/bis, chest/tris, legs/shoulders to give me the best results with hitting them 2x per week instead of the megatard way of training 1 part to complete exhaustion once per week like the 70's brotards that were on enough gear to kill a horse. I guess the same could be said with going in the other direction as well with the people who train the same muscle group day in and day out.

Of course like many things in life, when it comes to weight training, everyone is a self-proclaimed expert so just go with whatever you like for yourself. I only try to express my opinion after wasting my own time with old school bodybuilding routines that definitely didn't maximize results from my time in the gym so that others don't do the same.
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Your body needs rest in the middle somewhere. I suggest this:


Mon - Legs; Abs; Calves
Tues - Chest; Abs; Traps
Weds - Off
Thurs - Back; Abs; Calves
Fri - Arms; Abs; Calves
Sat - Shoulders; Abs; Traps
Sun - Off
KINDA OVERLOAD ON THE CALVES DONT YOU THINK? since this was your personal agenda im guessing you wanted to really work your calves for some reason or another...working or ur hops? or u got chikn legs? me...i wish my calves were a bit smaller...
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KINDA OVERLOAD ON THE CALVES DONT YOU THINK? since this was your personal agenda im guessing you wanted to really work your calves for some reason or another...working or ur hops? or u got chikn legs? me...i wish my calves were a bit smaller...
I wouldnt bother discussing this with "DouglikesBMW". After reading some of his posts, it's clear he's a simpleton and a freshman in college who has no business giving advice to anyone. His workout plan is a joke and frankly one I could see a female following if she wanted.....big calves?
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I have found splits centered around back/bis, chest/tris, legs/shoulders to give me the best results with hitting them 2x per week instead of the megatard way of training 1 part to complete exhaustion once per week like the 70's brotards that were on enough gear to kill a horse. I guess the same could be said with going in the other direction as well with the people who train the same muscle group day in and day out.

Of course like many things in life, when it comes to weight training, everyone is a self-proclaimed expert so just go with whatever you like for yourself. I only try to express my opinion after wasting my own time with old school bodybuilding routines that definitely didn't maximize results from my time in the gym so that others don't do the same.
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Like mentioned before I would avoid tris and bis in the same day. I do

Chest, Tris
Back Bis
Legs Shoulders

I take a rest day after 2 consecutive workouts. I know when the shoulders is followed by a chest day it overlaps a bit with secondary muscles but it works great for me and the guy that trains with me.


Exactly. By the way, your workout plans are similar to mine. Twice a week is a must in order to see real gains with lots of rest and the right food just as important.
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I wouldnt bother discussing this with "DouglikesBMW". After reading some of his posts, it's clear he's a simpleton and a freshman in college who has no business giving advice to anyone. His workout plan is a joke and frankly one I could see a female following if she wanted.....big calves?
You didn't have to call him stupid just because you don't like his workout plan. This thread is full of too much "I'm right and you're dumb" bullshit. What is it with workout discussions that makes everyone start insulting each other?
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so tri's and bi's the same day is bad?
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so tri's and bi's the same day is bad?
I'd avoid it.

I did this when I first started working out. Had results, but I wasn't able to work each muscle to full ability because of the fatigue. Have had much better results doing them separately.
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