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      12-08-2023, 07:42 AM   #1
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‘23 40i trade-in for a ‘22 M50i? Worth it?

Title says it all. See this listing below - other than the lack of the new 14” wide screen, it seems like it would have everything I already have but a lot more power:

https://www.hendrickbmwcharlotte.com...ource=cars.com
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      12-08-2023, 08:05 AM   #2
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It does have a lot more power and with DHP/IAS significantly better handling. It’s up to you if that level of performance is worth it. Many of us wouldn’t consider anything but this level of performance in a BMW.
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I test drove a X7 50i and it wasn’t that much faster than the ‘22 40i I ended up buying. I tow as well and the 40i was fine for a 5K pound trailer.

Hard to say if it’d be worth it or not…I have a ‘24 M4 comp x-drive as the fast car, my wife drives the X7 95% of the time so the performance difference wasn’t worth it to me.
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      12-08-2023, 08:27 AM   #4
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My wife got a 2024 x7 40i loaner this week and she was very happy to have her M50 back. Power delivery and sound are not comparable - in her words. Granted M50 eats gas and tires
Inside was nice on 24 but didn't care for all the glare on the screen. We'll be keeping m50 for now.
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I test drove a X7 50i and it wasn’t that much faster than the ‘22 40i I ended up buying. I tow as well and the 40i was fine for a 5K pound trailer.

Hard to say if it’d be worth it or not…I have a ‘24 M4 comp x-drive as the fast car, my wife drives the X7 95% of the time.

Curious, how and where did you test drive the M50i to come away with the option it wasn’t that much faster?? The M50i is like a pitbul on a chain in power and acceleration. Accelerating at 60 mph and up is not even in the same ZIP Code in feeling similar in power to the 40i. It’s like comparing a 430i to your M4C in acceleration and feeling the M4 is only marginally faster.

Just admit it, at 503hp/479lbft vs 523hp/553lbft you didn’t want your wife to have a more powerful vehicle than your M4C. ….

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Curious, how and where did you test drive the M50i to come away with the option it wasn’t that much faster?? The M50i is like a pitbul on a chain in power and acceleration. Accelerating at 60 mph and up is not even in the same ZIP Code in feeling similar in power to the 40i. It’s like comparing a 430i to your M4C in acceleration and feeling the M4 is marginally faster.
Well I guess it depends on what you’re used too speed wise. I was also comparing accelerating from a stop versus highway where the M50i would definitely be stronger.

I’m not saying it isn’t a quick SUV but it’s very slow compared to what I’m used too and the 2022 40i isn’t that slow for what it is.

The performance for me wasn’t impressive enough to warrant getting it over the ‘22 40i. (Which does a 5 second 0-60mph and is plenty fast for a luxury family hauler that can tow)

My M4C does 0-60mph in 3.0 seconds and an 11.2 quarter mile at 122-123mph. There is literally no comparison between it and the X7 M50i.
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      12-08-2023, 10:01 AM   #7
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In terms of tech (outside the screen), is DAP all the same as the '23 model?
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      12-08-2023, 10:12 AM   #8
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Also, anything missing from the posted vehicle above that would concern you?
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      12-08-2023, 10:32 AM   #9
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Also, anything missing from the posted vehicle above that would concern you?
It’s been in an accident.
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It’s been in an accident.
Darn, didn't click on the "show me the carfax"
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      12-08-2023, 10:36 AM   #11
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It’s been in an accident.
Two accidents actually. They're both minor, meaning those are just some scratches and dings. But it is definitely worth checking for the damages.
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      12-08-2023, 10:57 AM   #12
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Looks like it has
-Exec Package
-Cold Weather
-DAPP
-B&W
-Captain's Chairs
-Luxury Seating
-Towing Hitch

It does not have
-Extended leather


Considering you have a '23 now, I don't you'll miss much the DAPP downgrade since the '23 was limited.

I'd be more concerned about what the two accidents on the CarFax do to the value.
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      12-08-2023, 11:11 AM   #13
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Title says it all. See this listing below - other than the lack of the new 14” wide screen, it seems like it would have everything I already have but a lot more power:

https://www.hendrickbmwcharlotte.com...ource=cars.com
Are you planning to trade in a new 40i that you bought for an M50 with accident history? If so not worth it for the performance gain! The 40i is plenty fast for a 7 seater, not to mention much more fuel efficient. I have seen multiple reviews (channels with 1m+ subscribers) where they have wondered if you really need the V8 after driving the 40i.
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pass, two accidents and no dynamic handling package or rear wheel steering.

They don't have DHP listed as an option in the listing, I did not check the vin, not sure if Mystro did.

My 2 cents on 40 vs 50, 40 is nice off the line, you feel a lot of the power difference on the highway when passing. We rent X5 40's when we travel from Sixt, on the highway is where I notice the difference the most.
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Are you planning to trade in a new 40i that you bought for an M50 with accident history? If so not worth it for the performance gain! The 40i is plenty fast for a 7 seater, not to mention much more fuel efficient. I have seen multiple reviews (channels with 1m+ subscribers) where they have wondered if you really need the V8 after driving the 40i.
That's exactly what I'd be doing. Some rattles in my '23 40i that are driving me nuts, and also just love the idea of a V8. Seeing the accidents does change my mind a bit.

It sounds like there is some sort of difference in DAP between '22 and '23? Would love to know exact differences as how well the car performs DAP-wise between the two since that's hugely important to me.
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pass, two accidents and no dynamic handling package or rear wheel steering.

They don't have DHP listed as an option in the listing, I did not check the vin, not sure if Mystro did.

My 2 cents on 40 vs 50, 40 is nice off the line, you feel a lot of the power difference on the highway when passing. We rent X5 40's when we travel from Sixt, on the highway is where I notice the difference the most.
TIL that DHP isn't standard on '22 M50is?!
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TIL that DHP isn't standard on '22 M50is?!
DHP only became standard on the M60 in 23, before that it was an option.
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With the accident history I would 100% not do it.
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I dropped the idea entirely. Accident history & no DHP. And also haven't been able to find out if there are any specific differences between DAP in '22 models vs '23 models (as DAP is incredibly important to me).
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I dropped the idea entirely. Accident history & no DHP. And also haven't been able to find out if there are any specific differences between DAP in '22 models vs '23 models (as DAP is incredibly important to me).
if DAP is extremely important to you, get a '24 - DAP got some big enhancements which are not available on the '23. Chief among these enhancements is hands free highway driving up to 85mph.
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All dependent on your car fleet and needs.

I drive the iX xDrive50, which is plenty fast for me. It destroys the majority of cars that pull up next to me. It’s 500+hp and low 4’s 0-60. It’s also a bit larger on the inside than the X5, which I used to drive.

But it is still nice to have a large 3 row SUV as a family vehicle. The m60i sounds great but the main reason I prefer the 40i is for its range from one full tank.

Officially, 459.9 city / 547.5 highway. Amazing for someone who drives an EV and regularly thinks about range.
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Well I guess it depends on what you’re used too speed wise. I was also comparing accelerating from a stop versus highway where the M50i would definitely be stronger.

I’m not saying it isn’t a quick SUV but it’s very slow compared to what I’m used too and the 2022 40i isn’t that slow for what it is.

The performance for me wasn’t impressive enough to warrant getting it over the ‘22 40i. (Which does a 5 second 0-60mph and is plenty fast for a luxury family hauler that can tow)

My M4C does 0-60mph in 3.0 seconds and an 11.2 quarter mile at 122-123mph. There is literally no comparison between it and the X7 M50i.
I don’t think you can compare a car to a 6000lbs SUV on your last point.
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