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The info I have is that it will become standard on the new G60 which will be also revealed around 4/2023 (including the reveal of a full EV 5-series "i5") and produced starting 7/2023. That's the only vehicle that has been confirmed to have the HK as a standard. No leaks so far on whether this approach would include other high end models such as the X7 40i or not. The X7s buyers are hardly buying any X7 without an upgraded sound system (HK or B&W) anyway, so it's likely that BMW will adopt the approach of HK being standard also for the X7 while keeping the B&W as an option. Again, no leaks yet on that particular input except for the BMW G60.
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Personally, I'm still buying mine if it ever leaves QC, but it is a public service to let as many people know as possible that the first 6 months of the LCI is missing hardware that will be in the cars produced through 2027. That also isn't speculation. We know for sure that is when the redesign will come out.
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Early 2019 Later 2019-2022 The price didn't change but the contents of the package did. I wouldn't be surprised if this is what they do sometime in the spring of 2023. This was the only way to know which technology you were getting when both existed on dealer lots.
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Whatever your views, could you please remain on-topic and respectful to each other, please. Thanks, Mani
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In all cases, the BMW system is a few levels above the game compared to Audi and Mbenz. Perhaps only Tesla recently managed to exceed the performance of BMW system, but I think the new SP and personal pilot coming soon to BMW will takeover Tesla's system once again. The internal beta system is already showing that. Even 5-years ago, the Personal pilot of BMW was doing better than current Tesla system. It will be released one day for sure and BMW had already started to add the equipment needed for that on a few of it's vehicles. |
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Thanks. Most of my driving is on surface streets...so I was wondering if I'll be able to use it. I feel much better about it!
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Traffic lights and stop signs recognition (auto-stops and auto launch) is another feature if you're interested. |
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As far as (you wish BMW would tell us), that will never happen because BMW does not want current potential buyers, or some of them, to stop from considering whatever is available now in case that's something they wish to wait for. They will never mention what current vehicles are missing so nobody thinks or assumes that he’ll be screwed up. Some launch versions can be used as a beta tester which is important for BMW (am not saying that I like or dislike such approach). But to be fair, BMW has done very well in terms of informing clients and sharing info about its upcoming techs such as Personal Pilot, or highway assist, for the past 5-6 years. They just can't release the exact dates or timeline for obvious reasons. It is a marketing approach and I agree with such approach. But again, that's why there are forums like these, you still one way or another get some sort of leaks. Last edited by BMW5and7; 09-04-2022 at 11:00 AM.. |
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I think your titles need to tone down a bit. It might be useful for some but if you have bought new BMWs in past, you would know new things are added every April and Sept. that's a fact. Also the way automated driving is evolving there might be new hardware in 2024.
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It's not as rare as you think it is. I know based on my own cars.
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Yes, not very rare and happened in the past, but in the context of the 7-series and the X7, the picture is more clear this time internally. This new hardware will last a good 5 years at least just like SP18 and the existing module on the X7 pre lci and 2023 launch lci.
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Exactly!
It is funny they first accept your point and then repeat themselves! The technology in 2023, if it really will come in 2023, and if BMW will not drop other options year after year, will be obsolete by 2025-2026, and These are big ifs and they intentionally ignore all of them! They now even claim it will be only software updates until 2028 with only $400 extra cost! Even if you accept all these stories, this is not just about internal BMW trends, the competition forces the automakers to change and adopt more quickly! and if they don't keep up at that pace, that means that option is not that critical for customers! |
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