[E90_boostjunky]

Originally Posted by Sjracer

Too many paranoid people here. I have a friend, Retired Army, with a 3 series he bought brand new in Germany back in 95, and it has over 300,000 miles. Just regular maintenance and oil changes.

I myself am Retired Air Force, have owned three BMW's, all great cars. My current is a 07 335i, has about 97k on it, and Im just breaking it in as far as I am concerned. 100k is nothing on a car. True, a BMW is more expensive to maintain, but like one other poster said, if your willing to do some wrench turning, its no big deal. On a side note, mine had 2 owners before me, got the full carfax and it was well maintained at dealers. Plus think about it people, you don't go buy a BMW 335i and trash it, you baby and take care of it, no matter who you are. Too many people living in the past. 20 - 30 years ago 100k miles was a lot, but not now. That's just getting started.

Steve

well said my friend.

[driverman]

Originally Posted by Sjracer

Too many paranoid people here. I have a friend, Retired Army, with a 3 series he bought brand new in Germany back in 95, and it has over 300,000 miles. Just regular maintenance and oil changes.

I myself am Retired Air Force, have owned three BMW's, all great cars. My current is a 07 335i, has about 97k on it, and Im just breaking it in as far as I am concerned. 100k is nothing on a car. True, a BMW is more expensive to maintain, but like one other poster said, if your willing to do some wrench turning, its no big deal. On a side note, mine had 2 owners before me, got the full carfax and it was well maintained at dealers. Plus think about it people, you don't go buy a BMW 335i and trash it, you baby and take care of it, no matter who you are. Too many people living in the past. 20 - 30 years ago 100k miles was a lot, but not now. That's just getting started.

Steve

"you don't go buy a BMW 335i and trash it, you baby and take care of it, no matter who you are. "

This applies to most of us, but not everyone. There are some that break in their cars according to the "drive it like you stole it" doctrine and many more that squeeze more power out of their cars by installing mods that alter the programming. Who knows what the long term effects are of increasing boost and altering timing, mixture and other factors.

[cruzinZ]

Think of it this way.... Spend 20K upfront on a 100K car or 24-25K up front on a low milage car. In the end youre going to spend a few thousand getting that 100K car back in proper working order as things go bad. Like some of the other guys have said if you can turn a wrench and dont mind doing so you'll save yourself a lot of money. Just be sure that having a car down isnt going to affect your life. Nothing more frusterating than not having time to fix your vehicle and needing it.

[achien]

if a car can last 100k, it is most likely not a lemon.

those cars deemed as 'lemon' usually have problems right from the start. mileage has little affect on poor QC, that's why they are called 'lemons'.

Originally Posted by robbiejones

I think i am starting to lean towards buying a 2007 335i instead of a 2006 330i. Since my budget is only $20,000, the 335i will most likely have over 100k miles.

Is a 335i with this many miles reliable? I have read that 335's still under warranty have various issues. I am aware of the HPFP will be a likely problem, but are there other things that could cost me a lot in repairs with a high mileage 335i? Am I buying a problem and am i better off with a lower mileage 330i? The power of both cars will be sufficient for me.

I am only looking at 6-speed manual cars with sport package. I did read somewhere that someone thought the 335 is better suited with the auto transmission due to turbo lag and that the 330i is sharper with the manual transmission.

Is the 330i 90%+ of a 335i? Or is the 335i a lot better car?

Thanks again

[Kolyan2k]

Originally Posted by G559

For $20,000 I'd rather get a 328/330 with under 50K miles and under factory warranty.

A 335, out of warranty, with 100K driven in 4 years does not sound good to me.

+1

[d3UCE818]

20,000 for a 100,000 mi 07 335? Where Do u live?? I almost bought a 07 335 with 30,000mi for 22,000$ not salvaged in perfect condition here in Cali.

[malter2.0]

You can buy a 335i with 30k for $22k that will be sedan, automatic, no sports package or any other options, no CPO, in gray on tan color combo. Plenty of those. E92, 6-speed with options, CPO, in nice color combo will be $3-5k more.

I'm at 90k. Water pump went out yesterday on highway. $0. CPO.

[IFX]

good god no..

[BoricuaE92]

Go for the 335i, it's a great deal! If that is what you want, get it.

[Kolyan2k]

Originally Posted by malter2.0

You can buy a 335i with 30k for $22k that will be sedan, automatic, no sports package or any other options, no CPO, in gray on tan color combo. Plenty of those. E92, 6-speed with options, CPO, in nice color combo will be $3-5k more.

I'm at 90k. Water pump went out yesterday on highway. $0. CPO.

That is true as well

[fireline43]

this forum really does instill fear into the 335i owner

[zipstic]

Originally Posted by robbiejones

The power of both cars will be sufficient for me.

If you think the power of the 330 is sufficient I'm not sure why you would even be considering the 335.

[IFX]

Originally Posted by fireline43

this forum really does instill fear into the 335i owner

It should, the n54 is garbage. I'm willing to bet 8/10 owners on this board have had an HPFP problem, or turbo problem. And that's obviously not including misfires, wastegate issues etc.


And don't tell me that the HPFP is covered under warranty so it's not a big deal, because it is. It's a nuisance to drive a car around and not know if it will last past the 50k mile mark. It's ridiculous. My car is completely bone stock from day one, and it's still a pos. When i fix this current issue, it will be sold. And it will be the last turbo BMW i ever buy..


My e46M3 was redlined 20x+ times a day and not a single issue. My mom DD's the 335i 30 miles a day and every 4 months there's a new problem.

[r3dbimmer89]

Originally Posted by John 070

Why buy a car where a) the original warranty has expired b) an extended warranty has expired

imho when it's your car and it crosses 100k, you know the history and would have fixed absolutely anything that needed addressing. But why in the world would you take on someone else's 100k+ car? You can easily drop $2000-$8000 on a seemingly innocent repair. 20k is enough for a brand-new car, like a loaded Elantra. Seriously, anybody can afford a used 7 Series, but not many can afford to repair it. A 3 is no 7 but it is no joke unless you can DIY everything.

Give the guy a break... buying a 335i with 100K is steep but a Hyundai really? Maybe the guy is not trying to keep up with the Jones' but really wants a fun car to drive and an Elentra is not going to cut it. Back to the OP, I would get a 6 speed 330i with sports package being that it will be much more reliable than a 335i. Turbo engines were something new for BMW and as we all know turbo charged engines are usually less reliable across the board. And for 20K you can definitely find a 330i with under 60k miles for $20k.

[bmwforme]

look at my signature... that

[O HELLA BMW]

Theres a member on here that has around 180,xxx miles on his 2007 335i e93

[tony20009]

I wouldn't buy a 335 with 100K miles on it. I would keep mine when it gets to that point. Frankly, if you are somewhat budget conscious, you may want to get an Infiniti instead. They will be reliable and cheaper to own/maintain. Clearly this isn't going to be your "dream" car, so I'd recommend getting a BMW when you have a bit more cash to toss about.

In my experience, pretty much most of the common things one encounters with the 335i costs about $400. Consider that just replacing the BMW's battery will run you around $350-$400, assuming you do it as recommended by BMW. You can certainly do it yourself, but that will expose you to certain risks that may or may not materialize. Should they come to fruition, it'll end up being $400+ to replace the battery.

The standard tires for the car are run-flats. They will run you $400 (or so) per tire. You could buy a good quality non-run-flat tire if you want, say for about $200, but then you need to buy two of them and put one in the trunk in case you do get a flat.

The periodic service and maintenance for the car will also run you about $400.

Now if something breaks and needs fixing, all bets are off. It'll easily surpass $400. The one thing that comes to mind is that on my car, a gasket/seal around the turbo charger air intake became defective in some way or other. (I never really found out the exact nature of the defect as it was under warranty.) I first discovered the problem when I heard a rattle under the front end of the car and took it in to get that corrected (three days they had my car and the part wasn't even something they kept in stock). They did correct it, but then when I exceeded 80mph the check engine light came on. I took it back and they fixed that. Then I found that when I floored the gas (but only in that situation), the check engine light came on again. I took it back a third time and they did indeed fix it also.

For me, all that was covered under warranty, but if you needed the same repairs, you'd be looking at several thousands (my SA tells me about 6,000) to get the work done.

Finally, I'm not going to kid you, the turbo chargers and HPFP have been ongoing sources of angst for a lot of folks (not everybody, to be sure, but not just a couple folks either) who own 335i. If you are going to buy a used one that's got a lot of miles, go non-turbo. Diesel would, IMO, be even better as diesels are good, strong engines to begin with.

Best of luck to you.

[Soliditude]

Originally Posted by G559

For $20,000 I'd rather get a 328/330 with under 50K miles and under factory warranty.

A 335, out of warranty, with 100K driven in 4 years does not sound good to me.

+1!

[Kolyan2k]

Originally Posted by IFX

It should, the n54 is garbage. I'm willing to bet 8/10 owners on this board have had an HPFP problem, or turbo problem. And that's obviously not including misfires, wastegate issues etc.


And don't tell me that the HPFP is covered under warranty so it's not a big deal, because it is. It's a nuisance to drive a car around and not know if it will last past the 50k mile mark. It's ridiculous. My car is completely bone stock from day one, and it's still a pos. When i fix this current issue, it will be sold. And it will be the last turbo BMW i ever buy..


My e46M3 was redlined 20x+ times a day and not a single issue. My mom DD's the 335i 30 miles a day and every 4 months there's a new problem.

my e46M3 was not redlined 20x+ times a day and I had more issues with it then with my 335i which needed new turbos at 40k miles.

[IFX]

Originally Posted by Kolyan2k

my e46M3 was not redlined 20x+ times a day and I had more issues with it then with my 335i which needed new turbos at 40k miles.

Well that's you're experience. Most certainly not mine, but as I said i'm sure 8/10 members on here have had some ridiculous failure within 50k miles.


And you just said you're turbo's lasted till 40k, that is unacceptable.

[fireline43]

So then why do we even have people with 335's if they are so horrible? I'm seriously debating on selling my car and getting far away from BMW cause it seems like it's garbage

[lux.sh]

NO.

I currently own a 330i with 78k miles. I would NOT buy any 3 series with over 50k miles.
Actually, I wouldn't consider any german cars with over 35k miles. (Assuming I will keep the car for additional 50k miles or so)

Enough said.

Spending 20 grand on a used BMW with 100k miles is being extremely stupid both financially and realistically.
If you can't afford a brand new BMW, don't buy a used BMW. Many BMW owners would know what I mean.

Don't listen to these "my abused ex-bmw lasted 58203403 miles with 2 problems" or "german cars are actually extremely reliable" kind of bullshit.
If you want to find out, go ahead. You could be the lucky one, but chances are, you will be one of the average ones, the ones with tons of problems.
Japanese/Korean cars are in general more reliable, cheaper to maintain. If your budget is stuck at 20grand, stay with asian cars.

I love my BMW and I will get another BMW or Audi for my next car, but I'm going to make sure it has full warranty for at least 20~30k miles or I'm buying a genesis.