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      11-17-2010, 03:07 PM   #199
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Any idea how Sam bird's time vs. Rosberg or MSC was?

Think he is the current #1 driver for ART GP. ART has been the team to watch in GP2 with the exception of this year.


On Pastor Maldonado, I dont know about him. Something about him just puts me off. I don't think he is really anything special of a driver either. He was in ART and flopped, went to Rapax and won but its like his 3rd year in GP2. Most of the prodigy's spend like 1 year in GP2, win, then move up to F1.
If we use Qualify Q3 time...Bird is about one second faster than both MSC and ROS.

Sam Bird 1:39.220

MSC 1:40.452 (Q2 Fastest)
ROS 1:40.060 (Q2 Fastest)
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+1. He's been in GP2 for a bit. I guess that's why Sergio Perez already has an F1 contract in place while Maldonado is still trying to find one. But his times don't look that great and I hate that he'll still probably get signed solely based on the sponsorship money he generates.
That means HRT???
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That means HRT???
Williams is the rumor right now
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If we use Qualify Q3 time...Bird is about one second faster than both MSC and ROS.

Sam Bird 1:39.220

MSC 1:40.452 (Q2 Fastest)
ROS 1:40.060 (Q2 Fastest)
But you have to take into account ambient/track temperature. They raced early to midday while Q2 would've been at dusk. Lower temperature means less grip.
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If we use Qualify Q3 time...Bird is about one second faster than both MSC and ROS.

Sam Bird 1:39.220

MSC 1:40.452 (Q2 Fastest)
ROS 1:40.060 (Q2 Fastest)
That comparison isn't really accurate. Sam Bird and the others did those laps AFTER the grand prix (when the track was all rubbered in). I think James Allen said the difference in pace b/w Q3 and the 'new drivers test' was around 1.5 sec. So in reality, he is actually slower than rosberg, and comparable in pace to Schumacher.

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2010/1...ciardo-on-top/
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But you have to take into account ambient/track temperature. They raced early to midday while Q2 would've been at dusk. Lower temperature means less grip.
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That comparison isn't really accurate. Sam Bird and the others did those laps AFTER the grand prix (when the track was all rubbered in). I think James Allen said the difference in pace b/w Q3 and the 'new drivers test' was around 1.5 sec. So in reality, he is actually slower than rosberg, and comparable in pace to Schumacher.

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2010/1...ciardo-on-top/


calm down...that's why i said in previous posts that the track condition, temperature, traffic, car set up, humidity, etc are different than last Saturday....that you cannot blindly compare the two lap times.
but since someone asked...I just pull up the time....

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Ricciardo set a time of 1m 38.102s, which was 1.292 seconds faster than the pole lap last weekend. Engineers Iíve spoken to at the track say that the track improvement was around 1.2 seconds yesterday, compared to qualifying day, and it was even faster this morning. There was more grip and there was also a favourable tailwind. Also cones which had been on the apex of some corners were not there today, so there was some fractional gain from cutting the apex.
even if you take into account track difference (about 1.2-1.5 seconds)....is still a great lap from these young drivers....for sure (which Massa kept saying)....some of them will be doing great in F1....
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That comparison isn't really accurate. Sam Bird and the others did those laps AFTER the grand prix (when the track was all rubbered in). I think James Allen said the difference in pace b/w Q3 and the 'new drivers test' was around 1.5 sec. So in reality, he is actually slower than rosberg, and comparable in pace to Schumacher.

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2010/1...ciardo-on-top/
In other words, the 7 time world champion can only match these young test drivers lap time...
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even if you take into account track difference (about 1.2-1.5 seconds)....is still a great lap from these young drivers....for sure (which Massa kept saying)....some of them will be doing great in F1....
You're just repeating what I said, man . At least we're on the same page, cheers.
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I'll post these Pirelli testing pics here because I'll treat is the continuation of the Grand Prix weekend...and they did the Young Driver test and new Pirelli tire test in Abu Dhabi - Yas Marina Circuit...
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I'll post these Pirelli testing pics here because I'll treat is the continuation of the Grand Prix weekend...and they did the Young Driver test and new Pirelli tire test in Abu Dhabi - Yas Marina Circuit...

Love the retro look of the tires! Great to see Pirelli back
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There was a mistake. I saw mtla location and i remind a confrotation i had with another canadian on a putin threahd, talking about europeans ... my sick brain did the rest guessing he was the same poster, and his comment goes by that way

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There was a mistake. I saw mtla location and i remind a confrotation i had with another canadian on a putin threahd, talking about europeans ... my sick brain did the rest guessing he was the same poster, and his comment goes by that way

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So the green stripe was on the rim in some of those. Is that a confirmed thing for next year or just for this test?

I'd like to hear about their lap times and how sticky the new tires are.
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So the green stripe was on the rim in some of those. Is that a confirmed thing for next year or just for this test?

I'd like to hear about their lap times and how sticky the new tires are.
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/

I feel like a website promoter or something - but this website is really a great source of information and F1 news.
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