[mattsrs]

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Currently leasing a 2019 X5 than can get out of lease with equity so negotiated a nice deal on an X7 in stock (9% off before incentives). Before pulling the trigger, want to know what you guys think about buying now vs waiting to see what MY22 brings? Worried a facelift would be a positive change and gonna miss out. Can keep the current car another 8 months in the lease so no worries on that front. What are the realistic chances of a facelift for MY22?

[djbonsu]

I could be off base but I don't think the LCI will happen until MY2023 with production starting maybe mid-year 2022.

[mattsrs]

Originally Posted by djbonsu

I could be off base but I don't think the LCI will happen until MY2023 with production starting maybe mid-year 2022.

I would expect that but there has been some spyshots and speculations that it may happen MY22 starting from August

[Gr0B]

I've read that the update will come with the MY22 but with the HK issue I was asking about when the MY22s would be released and they thought earliest would be Nov-Dec 2021 but expect it will slip into early 2022.

[mattsrs]

Originally Posted by Gr0B

I've read that the update will come with the MY22 but with the HK issue I was asking about when the MY22s would be released and they thought earliest would be Nov-Dec 2021 but expect it will slip into early 2022.

Do you expect big changes that are worth the wait? Do they make any changes to interior at facelift or just minor exterior changes?

[Xtabi]

G07 X7 - 07/25 (LCI SOP 08/22)

So late summer 2022 is when you will start seeing the face lift.

Check the sticky post on the universal section of the forum for this type of information. All these types of details are there for all BMW models.

[bradythedog12]

As has been posted many times by reputable folks... not to say that you guys aren’t but... the LCI will be for MY23 starting with production in Aug 2022.

If you’re going to get an M50i, then no need to wait. There are some supply issues with some of the luxury features on a 40i so if that’s your cup of tea, then I would wait until those issues are sorted out.

[mattsrs]

Originally Posted by bradythedog12

As has been posted many times by reputable folks... not to say that you guys aren’t but... the LCI will be for MY23 starting with production in Aug 2022.

If you’re going to get an M50i, then no need to wait. There are some supply issues with some of the luxury features on a 40i so if that’s your cup of tea, then I would wait until those issues are sorted out.

Thanks for the perspective. The X7 I am considering is 40i, on the lot, and fully loaded (MSRP around 92k) so it has all the features I want so not worried about production issues. My main concern is if facelift would bring some nice changes to the looks outside or inside and I kick myself why I didn't wait a few months. That said, the deal I negotiated is solid discount so want to weigh this versus what the chances are to see a refresh in MY22

[bradythedog12]

sounds like you are good to go! Enjoy!!

[RAJENT]

Originally Posted by mattsrs

Thanks for the perspective. The X7 I am considering is 40i, on the lot, and fully loaded (MSRP around 92k) so it has all the features I want so not worried about production issues. My main concern is if facelift would bring some nice changes to the looks outside or inside and I kick myself why I didn't wait a few months. That said, the deal I negotiated is solid discount so want to weigh this versus what the chances are to see a refresh in MY22

That is smart! Its best to go with a lot car if it has what you want. I couldnt find a 40i with all the specs I want (specifically Dynamic handling) and I am basically stuck in the never ending production queue. Its a total mess at the factory. Avoid it if you can

[mattsrs]

Originally Posted by RAJENT

That is smart! Its best to go with a lot car if it has what you want. I couldnt find a 40i with all the specs I want (specifically Dynamic handling) and I am basically stuck in the never ending production queue. Its a total mess at the factory. Avoid it if you can

Dealer sold the car as I was deciding what to do now I'm back to square one! no car inventory that I like and ordering is a mess

[RAJENT]

Originally Posted by mattsrs

Dealer sold the car as I was deciding what to do now I'm back to square one! no car inventory that I like and ordering is a mess

That's a bummer! Sorry to hear that. X7's are in high demand and its very difficult to find one optioned appropriately. Dealers don't believe in the Dynamic Handling package and mine was encouraging me to drop it from the build. No wonder barely any of the dealer lot X7's have the DHP.
I hope you find another one you like. It might even be worthwhile to get in the production queue, while you are out shopping for an inventory car

[dmanb2b]

If the spy leaks of the LCI are accurate the front end is fugly...sucks to hear you lost out on the car. It's a hot car market at the moment...if something catches your eye, put a deposit on it while you shop around.

[bradythedog12]

no way it can end up looking like that..... right?!?!?!?

[Buchimuer]

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/01...ring-front.jpg

This is so not my type.....

[dmanb2b]

Originally Posted by bradythedog12

no way it can end up looking like that..... right?!?!?!?

For the sake of the brand I sure hope not. Since middle of last year BMW has updated SW on ECU's which currently makes them un-tunable too...perfect way to alienate the performance mod crowd.

[Wanderer73]

Originally Posted by Buchimuer

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/01...ring-front.jpg

This is so not my type.....

There's no way. Wrong in so many ways.

[Wild Blue]

So, my 2 cents, and the key points I see:

1. As stated, officially the X7 LCI still is scheduled to start production 8/22, as MY2023.
2. Yes, there is a small chance the LCI might start this fall, but I think that's very unlikely, particularly with current BMW supply problems
3. I totally get the appeal of getting the "latest and greatest" version of anything. For cars, once a new model/refresh comes out, the previous one instantly seems outdated.
4. However, there is no guarantee that MY2022 will be any better then MY2021, whether in design, supply availability, or available options. Whether it has LCI or not. Same with MY2023 at this point, really.
5. The end of the BMW supply problems is unknown. Global semiconductor supply shortages may persist for a couple months, or until the end of the year. But second order effects may last far into CY2022. Supposedly there's currently a silicon supply issue affecting glass as well. And BMW is having other supply issues unrelated to either issue (possibly due to COVID--thanks, China). BMW's Just-In-Time logistics structure broke in several ways, and needs ravamping. Who knows how and when all of this will play out.
6. Therefore, no guarantees that MY2022 will be any better than MY2021, whether it has an LCI or not. Although MY2021 added a few small features over MY2020, overall it has been a big step back, with the options that have, and continue to be, removed.
7. Really, we have very little idea what the next X7 LCI will look like. All the spyshots so far have been heavily camoflauged, especially the front end around the headlights. Artist renditions like that link above, are just their best guess what it might look like. Very little idea of final product. You might love it, you might hate it. Similarly, very little information at this point what new features will be added.
8. Far more than upcoming LCI possibilities, I think your issue right now and in the near future is supply issues
9. So I see your options as (1) find an existing model on a dealer lot that meets your desires--fairly unlikely, (2) order a 40i with limited options--40i production may be shut down for the remainder of MY2021, (3) order a M50i with everything (hopefully) you want, or (4) wait for MY2022 or later, rolling the dice with what happens
10. I can't tell you which of those 4 options is best for you, but I can tell you if it were me, I wouldn't accept the current supplly limitations. Ordering such a expensive, high-end car, I'd have to have it just the way I wanted, and I'd wait until MY2022 or even MY2023 to get it the way I wanted.

As it is, I'm a little disappointed I couldn't get Ambient Air, Night Vision, or Full Merino Leather in black for my MY2021 M50i. Those were minor enough that I was good, still ordering. Any more, and I wouldn't have accepted it. What's going on with supply problems now is just too much. Glad I got my car when I did.

[Buchimuer]

Originally Posted by Wild Blue

So, my 2 cents, and the key points I see:

1. As stated, officially the X7 LCI still is scheduled to start production 8/22, as MY2023.
2. Yes, there is a small chance the LCI might start this fall, but I think that's very unlikely, particularly with current BMW supply problems
3. I totally get the appeal of getting the "latest and greatest" version of anything. For cars, once a new model/refresh comes out, the previous one instantly seems outdated.
4. However, there is no guarantee that MY2022 will be any better then MY2021, whether in design, supply availability, or available options. Whether it has LCI or not. Same with MY2023 at this point, really.
5. The end of the BMW supply problems is unknown. Global semiconductor supply shortages may persist for a couple months, or until the end of the year. But second order effects may last far into CY2022. Supposedly there's currently a silicon supply issue affecting glass as well. And BMW is having other supply issues unrelated to either issue (possibly due to COVID--thanks, China). BMW's Just-In-Time logistics structure broke in several ways, and needs ravamping. Who knows how and when all of this will play out.
6. Therefore, no guarantees that MY2022 will be any better than MY2021, whether it has an LCI or not. Although MY2021 added a few small features over MY2020, overall it has been a big step back, with the options that have, and continue to be, removed.
7. Really, we have very little idea what the next X7 LCI will look like. All the spyshots so far have been heavily camoflauged, especially the front end around the headlights. Artist renditions like that link above, are just their best guess what it might look like. Very little idea of final product. You might love it, you might hate it. Similarly, very little information at this point what new features will be added.
8. Far more than upcoming LCI possibilities, I think your issue right now and in the near future is supply issues
9. So I see your options as (1) find an existing model on a dealer lot that meets your desires--fairly unlikely, (2) order a 40i with limited options--40i production may be shut down for the remainder of MY2021, (3) order a M50i with everything (hopefully) you want, or (4) wait for MY2022 or later, rolling the dice with what happens
10. I can't tell you which of those 4 options is best for you, but I can tell you if it were me, I wouldn't accept the current supplly limitations. Ordering such a expensive, high-end car, I'd have to have it just the way I wanted, and I'd wait until MY2022 or even MY2023 to get it the way I wanted.

As it is, I'm a little disappointed I couldn't get Ambient Air, Night Vision, or Full Merino Leather in black for my MY2021 M50i. Those were minor enough that I was good, still ordering. Any more, and I wouldn't have accepted it. What's going on with supply problems now is just too much. Glad I got my car when I did.

Well said. I can only accept the HK is gone for now, not any single option more.

[jsmonet]

considering the growing number of options being axed due to shortages, I'd just wait and get something properly-equipped

[viperdoc]

I would accept HK being gone since it is only an acceptable sound system. Lots of other aftermarket ones that equal or best B&W. The only question is whether the vehicle would still lose the two tweeters in the back that typically come with the HK system. If they still had the spots for the rear tweeters I would get the vehicle and just replace the sound system

[huskerdoc2020]

Originally Posted by viperdoc

I would accept HK being gone since it is only an acceptable sound system. Lots of other aftermarket ones that equal or best B&W. The only question is whether the vehicle would still lose the two tweeters in the back that typically come with the HK system. If they still had the spots for
the rear tweeters I would get the vehicle and just replace the sound system

Pathetic. Get the B&W. No brainer.