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      02-22-2024, 06:20 PM   #23
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Still wondering if the ones they replace on mines on Aug 2023 was a redesigned part or not. Not sure if BMW tracks if a car was in for service on these issues already. Nerve racking when it happen on mine, and makes you want to jump to another brand for sure.

what is Status: Remedy Unavailable, really mean???
I suspect it was the old booster as the fix didnt enter production untill mid October. Unfortunately the updated parts would have gone first into the assembly line.
They do track what car gets what part, the brake booster likely has a serial number that will show up when the car is connected to the diagnostic head.
Remedy not available means they dont have a fix. In this case parts are not yet available. Not sure if that means theres yet another booster part number being done. The booster is on its 3rd revision currently. It could also mean they have to build inventory of parts- in the us alone they have 80k cars to fix. In terms of production, thats almost 2 months of supply for Spartanburg, and i guarantee you they wont be shunting parts away from that so the ramp will take longer. They have a 6 week lead before they send the letters out, i suspect they wont have enough parts to complete the recall till summertime.

If my booster fails and theres an extended wait for the parts i will likely pursue a trade assist.
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Is it safe though to drive the car? Going for a 500 mile drive over the weekend.
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      02-22-2024, 07:11 PM   #25
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Is it safe though to drive the car? Going for a 500 mile drive over the weekend.
The estimated failure rate is 1%. Anecdotally the majority of the failures happened fairly early in the life and seemingly it was very prevalent in the spring. I wouldnt be too concerned. But i would keep the possibility in mind and be ready to deal with the situation if it happens ( braking without power assist, which will require alot more force)
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Someone tried a thread to see when the failure happened. The thread initially indicated early life (2k miles and under). Then others chimed in with higher mileage. I knew of the possible issue and still road tripped from Chicago to Connecticut last month. Hard to say if/when it may happen. I have almost 9k on mine and knock on wood- no issue yet. That said, weíll use our other car exclusively until Tuesday. Iím not one to tempt fate.

I do hope they figured this out and fixed the booster. If it goes after the fix- I will do trade assist or consider the LX600. As much as I love the X7, this issue sounds scary. Oddly, when I tried googling about this I found info about a 2013 or 2014 bmw brake booster issue. So itís not their first time having an issue with this part (disappointing).

No idea how I got so lucky to be so early on the recall. Just glad to it will be dealt with shortly (and hopefully for good!).
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Someone tried a thread to see when the failure happened. The thread initially indicated early life (2k miles and under). Then others chimed in with higher mileage. I knew of the possible issue and still road tripped from Chicago to Connecticut last month. Hard to say if/when it may happen. I have almost 9k on mine and knock on wood- no issue yet. That said, weíll use our other car exclusively until Tuesday. Iím not one to tempt fate.

I do hope they figured this out and fixed the booster. If it goes after the fix- I will do trade assist or consider the LX600. As much as I love the X7, this issue sounds scary. Oddly, when I tried googling about this I found info about a 2013 or 2014 bmw brake booster issue. So itís not their first time having an issue with this part (disappointing).

No idea how I got so lucky to be so early on the recall. Just glad to it will be dealt with shortly (and hopefully for good!).
About that LX600... https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4...-lx600-recall/
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I spoke with a BMW rep and asked him if it was safe to drive. I have 3 young children who are in the x7 all the time and he basically said it was ok to drive but just to be careful. I'm surprised BMW would just let consumers keep using the vehicle knowing it could be dangerous if it does malfunction. We have 12k miles and haven't had a issue
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I spoke with a BMW rep and asked him if it was safe to drive. I have 3 young children who are in the x7 all the time and he basically said it was ok to drive but just to be careful. I'm surprised BMW would just let consumers keep using the vehicle knowing it could be dangerous if it does malfunction. We have 12k miles and haven't had a issue
if the failure rate is to be believed, 1%, then the odds are in your favor... until its not.

they dont have much of a choice, they need to come up with 80K replacement boosters above what they need for factory production (no way in hell would they pause factory production)
if they tell everyone to park it for the amount of time it will take, they would need to buy back every single car.

more than likely there will be no problem.

i would just mentally prepare myself for what to do if it happens- it would be a loss of power braking, not braking completely, so you will need to apply much more pressure to the brakes to stop. the electromechanical parking brake will also engage.
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My '24 production date was 2023-09-29 (delivered 10-05), when I check the recall site, it says no-recalls. I'm only at 1,300 miles now. Do '24 X7s have the brake-booster problems too or is it contained to '23s?
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My '24 production date was 2023-09-29 (delivered 10-05), when I check the recall site, it says no-recalls. I'm only at 1,300 miles now. Do '24 X7s have the brake-booster problems too or is it contained to '23s?
its 2023s and 2024s roughly produced until mid October 2023.

does anything show up here:
https://bmw-recall-tool.netlify.app/

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you also may have lucked out- the hard end date implies they did transition from a supplier or a part revision, your prod date is at the tail end of the affected range so you might have gotten lucky and gotten the revised part while both versions were in the supply chain
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its 2023s and 2024s roughly produced until mid October 2023.

does anything show up here:
https://bmw-recall-tool.netlify.app/

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you also may have lucked out- the hard end date implies they did transition from a supplier or a part revision, your prod date is at the tail end of the affected range so you might have gotten lucky and gotten the revised part while both versions were in the supply chain
Ah! Makes sense! Hopefully thatís the case! Fingers crossed! I checked my vin on the url you listed and it says Ďno recallí and lists a defect code and says vin status as Ďclosedí.
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Ah! Makes sense! Hopefully thatís the case! Fingers crossed! I checked my vin on the url you listed and it says Ďno recallí and lists a defect code and says vin status as Ďclosedí.
Wondering what it means?
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Interesting update- Last night I showed open recall on my June 23 XB7 for brake booster with no remedy available. Just checked again today and now my BMW Account shows no open recalls??

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I called and spoke to my local SA today, and she said that there is remedy for repair or parts yet ( I figure as much). I asked her about my X7 that was in for brake booster malfunction in Aug 23 , to see if it was the same issue. What she said is the "The Integrated Brake (IB)" and "brake booster malfunction " are two different issues. Any truth to this? I was going to call another SA next week and see
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Talk to a actual service advisor and not a scheduler per above this time and they said itís for Brake modules/software.

Brake booster and integrate brake are not the same 😂 oops

He thinks itíll be a software grade though and the app will let you know when they have a remedy.
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Will be interesting to see what they do for mine tomorrow. I was assuming new brake boosters woudl be put on. Iíll see what the service record says and share back.
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Talk to a actual service advisor and not a scheduler per above this time and they said it’s for Brake modules/software.

Brake booster and integrate brake are not the same �� oops

He thinks it’ll be a software grade though and the app will let you know when they have a remedy.
I think your SA is trying to downplay the recall action. its not just a software upgrade. or is just blowing smoke because they dont know better.

thats not what what the recall doc says

Description of Problem

The Integrated Brake (IB) system may not have been produced by the supplier according to specifications. If the IB system was not functioning properly, a warning lamp and message will be displayed in the instrument cluster.

Safety Risk

In some cases, there will be a reduction in power assist braking, which could lead to an extended stopping distance and increase the risk of a crash. The Antilock Brake System (ABS) and Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) system may not function, which could also affect braking performance as well as vehicle handling and control. However, fully mechanical braking is not affected and, if the IB system is not functioning properly, the parking (emergency) brake will be automatically activated to aid in braking performance and help maintain vehicle stability and control.

Description of Repair

The Integrated Brake (IB) system will be replaced for free by an authorized BMW center which should take several hours.

thats not the verbiage around a software update.

also, in ISTA, the brake booster/ ABS/DSC unit is called the Integrated Brake.

from a bmw press release:
The new BMW X1 is equipped with an integrated braking system that delivers outstanding stopping power and superior pedal feel. This system brings together the brake activation, brake booster and braking control functions within a compact module. The required brake pressure is triggered using an electric actuator, an operating principle that generates pressure more dynamically and ensures significantly faster and more precise interventions by the DSC. The integrated braking system generates a degree of stopping power that is matched exactly to the driver’s inputs, while also providing excellent feedback via the brake pedal.
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I just received a call from my service dept that there is a brake booster recall for my Ď23 40i. I know there are a few threads on brake booster issues and was glad to get the call. Hopefully there are no issues over the next week before the appointment. That said, at least the part is in and waiting.

Curious if others are getting similar calls or if others have been notified. If not, it may be worth reaching out to your service folks to see when they can get you in (and to double check if it applies to your VIN).

EDIT: Iím googling to try and find more and am not seeing anything on the internet about an active recallÖ. could this be a one off thing? Iíve not seen other threads with similar issues end with voluntary preemptive fixes from bmw (or perhaps the formal recall is in the works?).
I have the same vehicle it did not receive any recall notice, just checked using recall app, it says ďsafety 0034670200Ē, is this the same recall??
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Ritu_o0o I believe that is the same. Orient included a good deal of info earlier in the thread as he found the recall.

I was called about it and then couldnít find info. Almost feels like I was called just before it all went out (strange). Others have found the details and I checked my vin and the one you refer to is what comes up for me.
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I am part of the recall - 2023 40i, bought Oct 2023.

Currently in shop all this month getting a new transmission.
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I am part of the recall - 2023 40i, bought Oct 2023.

Currently in shop all this month getting a new transmission.
That sounds miserable. Sorry to hear. What happened to the transmission?

May be worth calling and asking if they have the brake parts and having them do tha while itís there to avoid having to go back.
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I am part of the recall - 2023 40i, bought Oct 2023.

Currently in shop all this month getting a new transmission.
have u considered requesting a trade assist? how many days out of service?
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That sounds miserable. Sorry to hear. What happened to the transmission?

May be worth calling and asking if they have the brake parts and having them do tha while itís there to avoid having to go back.
transmission failed. got drivetrain malfunction Jan 28th, towed to dealer. got the car back 2 days later (said it was software), less than 10 miles I got another drive train. Was able to drive to dealer the next morning. Just got transmission parts last night and hope to have it back by tomorrow after testing. They don't have the part for the brake recall unfortunately.
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