Chris Harris on BMW M4 vs Lexus RC-F

[Damasconian]

Chris Harris spot on as always.

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/defa...?storyId=30817

[Black Gold]

pretty much

especially this line which is what ive been saying

BMW can rest easy, and Lexus has probably arrived at a 2014 party in 2008 clothes

[ASAP]

Clothes didn't change much from 2008 to 2014...

[M3guy3]

i think this car will be a flop.

[stressdoc]

V8 with nice sounds versus the M3.

[Damasconian]

Originally Posted by KennyPowers

pretty much

especially this line which is what ive been saying

I would also say the new Jag XE is in the same boat. Looks like a smaller version of the XF, a model that came out in 2007.

The real competition is coming though. Next gen C63 and RS4 to debut soon. If they are in Detroit, Ill see them there.

[ixse]

all the guys that been bitchin about the sound can go jump in rc-f.

[fusionchicken]

Originally Posted by stressdoc

V8 with nice sounds versus the M3.

+1

But for that I would do a 2012+ C63 AMG Coupe all day. Both 2 doors, both automatic, but the C63 sounds better, is quicker/faster, and still doesn't look too dated in today's market IMO.

[pkimM3r]

i think the IS-F is better than the RC-F

[Maddict3]

Originally Posted by M3guy3

i think this car will be a flop.

+1 no doubt about that

[SOM3]

Originally Posted by KennyPowers

pretty much

especially this line which is what ive been saying

Agreed!

[myzmak]

Yup. All about the C63 for the real competition.

[DaFish]

Originally Posted by Damasconian

Chris Harris spot on as always.

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/defa...?storyId=30817

Love that guy.... great writer....

HOW did this car get past the design stage? Heavy, slow (by the new standards), the looks are a bit boy racer for me, small back seats (from what I read).... He didn't talk about the brakes... for : £59,995 (before options). lets talk about the grille - or not.... it is hideous.

I just don't know what market they are going after. This should be a flop for sales numbers - I would think.

I'll stay German thanks. They needed to do at least as good as an M4.

EDIT: From this article:

"We weighed the RC F and it clocks in at a lardy 4040 pounds. For some comparison, the similarly sized and totally targeted BMW M4 weighs 3604 pounds, a 436-pound difference. Before you mount an angry letter-writing campaign against Lexus, know that the AWD Audi RS 5 is just 13 pounds lighter than the RC F, 4027 pounds. Still, why’s a brand-new car so heavy?"

Bingo. The RS5 is years old, 4 wheel drive and will kick this tubs ass...

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz3DcsKVNyB

[Sektion9]

BMW can rest easy, and Lexus has probably arrived at a 2014 party in 2008 clothes..