car went into limp mode=time for oil cooler retrofit

FotiosF90M5 · 12-26-2007, 03:23 PM

UPDATE: GETTING THE RETROFIT!!!!!!Ive had my car for 10 months now and Ive never had a problem.I put in a call to BMWNA to get the retrofit.I was sure they would give me a hard time if it never went into limp mode.It went into limp mode today so I should be able to get it now. Dinan, here I come.Normally I wouldnt be happy about this but I have to say I am because Im really thinking about getting the reflash.Is there a certain amount of times it has to go into limp mode for them to agree to do it? Also, does it get stored in the computer for sure?

Valentine · 12-26-2007, 03:26 PM

Call and act angry. They will tell you how long it has to be in limp mode. I would assume that it doesn't have to be long but I may be wrong. Good luck with your oil cooler and your reflash! Let me be the first to demand a dyno.

FotiosF90M5 · 12-26-2007, 03:29 PM

thanks, it should have came with it in the first place. Im waiting for a call back from customer relations. Im not stopping the complaint until I get it.

Valentine · 12-26-2007, 03:31 PM

Never underestimate the power of sounding angry on the phone. Works for me every time lol.

FotiosF90M5 · 12-26-2007, 03:32 PM

Im going to be a calm angry/concerned.

E90 335i · 12-26-2007, 03:38 PM

Tell them 290+ degree oil temps constantly when driving to work...and that's driving easy. Limp modes three times, two times on the way to work, causing you to be late to work.

"This is unacceptable. I pay X grand for this car and I get these problems, I can't even get to work."

They'll take care of you. They did to me.

FotiosF90M5 · 12-26-2007, 03:58 PM

Thanks for the advice guys.I hope it goes smooth.

DrDomer · 12-26-2007, 05:56 PM

Can't they just run a log of oil temps? I was thinking of saying my car is running too hot, and limping... but wouldn't they just do a diagnostic test and see that you're lying? I think approaching it from the standpt of taking your car to a performance driving school might work better. I'm in the same boat as Fotios, except I'm going to track the car this summer. At least I hope to. I won't if there's no oil cooler. I think it's funny that I paid more money for a 335i AT with ZSP than did you guys with MT, but you get the oil cooler and I get the shaft. Nice.

FotiosF90M5 · 12-26-2007, 06:17 PM

Im not sure if they have a log of temps but they can see how many times it went into limp mode. For me once is enough. It really shouldnt happen at all.

OpenFlash · 12-26-2007, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by fotios330i

Im not sure if they have a log of temps but they can see how many times it went into limp mode. For me once is enough. It really shouldnt happen at all.

Unless you were on a race track doing sustained hotlapping, I'd be very surprised if you saw 290deg oil temps. Especially in the Northeast in the dead of winter. Did you see the oil temp get that high???

shiv

FotiosF90M5 · 12-26-2007, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Unless you were on a race track doing sustained hotlapping, I'd be very surprised if you saw 290deg oil temps. Especially in the Northeast in the dead of winter. Did you see the oil temp get that high???

shiv

It didnt get that high on mine.It actually was a little under 280 when it went into limp mode. This is the first time my car has ever done this, even in the summer it didnt.I was driving pretty hard though. I also am running stock right now.

OpenFlash · 12-26-2007, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by fotios330i

It didnt get that high on mine.It actually was a little under 280 when it went into limp mode. This is the first time my car has ever done this, even in the summer it didnt.I was driving pretty hard though. I also am running stock right now.

Probably not a temp issue. Besides, the dealership will be able to see what fault caused the limp mode so depending on what they find, they might not install an oil cooler. Not to say that they never will of course. They just need to see the issue on the logs first.

Shiv

FotiosF90M5 · 12-26-2007, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Probably not a temp issue. Besides, the dealership will be able to see what fault caused the limp mode so depending on what they find, they might not install an oil cooler. Not to say that they never will of course. They just need to see the issue on the logs first.

Shiv

shit. I wonder what else could have caused it. I guess I'll just stick with piggybacks if they dont give me one. what a pain in the ass this is.

sambonator · 12-26-2007, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by fotios330i

It didnt get that high on mine.It actually was a little under 280 when it went into limp mode. This is the first time my car has ever done this, even in the summer it didnt.I was driving pretty hard though. I also am running stock right now.

Do you have an automatic? If so then its likely the water temp that caused the limp, and not oil. Its usually the water temp that gets too high in the automatics, as discussed in the tracking forums.

FotiosF90M5 · 12-26-2007, 06:47 PM

yeah, its an automatic.

DrDomer · 12-26-2007, 07:06 PM

Of course it is... UGH... It sucks.

normtrum · 12-26-2007, 08:12 PM

Fotios - I was told by my SA that all I have to do is send him an email and tell him i'm consistantely running above 275 -280....and that's basically it. He said I don't have to go into limp mode, or need to do anything else except compose the email.

This conversation occurred last month btw, but he said another 335 AT customer did exactly what I mentioned above, and he had a new OC installed in less then 1 week.

All heresay I know....but wanted you to know how my conversation went. I haven't dont it yet, as I am never above 250. Good luck!!

FotiosF90M5 · 12-26-2007, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by normtrum

Fotios - I was told by my SA that all I have to do is send him an email and tell him i'm consistantely running above 275 -280....and that's basically it. He said I don't have to go into limp mode, or need to do anything else except compose the email.

This conversation occurred last month btw, but he said another 335 AT customer did exactly what I mentioned above, and he had a new OC installed in less then 1 week.

All heresay I know....but wanted you to know how my conversation went. I haven't dont it yet, as I am never above 250. Good luck!!

thanks normtrum, I hope its easy like that. I dont have the time for bullshit these days.

FotiosF90M5 · 01-21-2008, 08:59 AM

got a call from bmwna and they said they are going ahead with a goodwill retrofit kit and all the parts are being shipped to my dealer.could take a while for the parts to come in.At first they were making me make an appointment to get it diagnosed blah,blah,blah but they just called 2 days later and said they were giving me the cooler. pretty pumped!

12-26-2007, 03:23 PM	#1
FotiosF90M5 ///M Specialist South Shore BMW 772 Rep 7,108 Posts Drives: 2021 M5 Comp BHG/Silverstone Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Shore, MA iTrader: (62)	car went into limp mode=time for oil cooler retrofit UPDATE: GETTING THE RETROFIT!!!!!!Ive had my car for 10 months now and Ive never had a problem.I put in a call to BMWNA to get the retrofit.I was sure they would give me a hard time if it never went into limp mode.It went into limp mode today so I should be able to get it now. Dinan, here I come.Normally I wouldnt be happy about this but I have to say I am because Im really thinking about getting the reflash.Is there a certain amount of times it has to go into limp mode for them to agree to do it? Also, does it get stored in the computer for sure? __________________ 2021 M5 COMPETITION LCI Brands Hatch Gray on SIlverstone, carbon roof, comp wheels, Mperf splitter, carbon pro spoiler, carbon diffuser , carbon paddles, executive pkg. Dinan HAS, RaceChip, dinan spacers, FC stud kit, etc Last edited by FotiosF90M5; 01-21-2008 at 08:56 AM..
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Valentine OK with taking handouts 3 Rep 176 Posts Drives: 325i Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Montery, CA iTrader: (1)	Call and act angry. They will tell you how long it has to be in limp mode. I would assume that it doesn't have to be long but I may be wrong. Good luck with your oil cooler and your reflash! Let me be the first to demand a dyno.
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FotiosF90M5 ///M Specialist South Shore BMW 772 Rep 7,108 Posts Drives: 2021 M5 Comp BHG/Silverstone Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Shore, MA iTrader: (62)	thanks, it should have came with it in the first place. Im waiting for a call back from customer relations. Im not stopping the complaint until I get it. __________________ 2021 M5 COMPETITION LCI Brands Hatch Gray on SIlverstone, carbon roof, comp wheels, Mperf splitter, carbon pro spoiler, carbon diffuser , carbon paddles, executive pkg. Dinan HAS, RaceChip, dinan spacers, FC stud kit, etc
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Valentine OK with taking handouts 3 Rep 176 Posts Drives: 325i Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Montery, CA iTrader: (1)	Never underestimate the power of sounding angry on the phone. Works for me every time lol.
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FotiosF90M5 ///M Specialist South Shore BMW 772 Rep 7,108 Posts Drives: 2021 M5 Comp BHG/Silverstone Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Shore, MA iTrader: (62)	Im going to be a calm angry/concerned. __________________ 2021 M5 COMPETITION LCI Brands Hatch Gray on SIlverstone, carbon roof, comp wheels, Mperf splitter, carbon pro spoiler, carbon diffuser , carbon paddles, executive pkg. Dinan HAS, RaceChip, dinan spacers, FC stud kit, etc
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E90 335i Banned 32 Rep 559 Posts Drives: 2007 E90 335i Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida iTrader: (0)	Tell them 290+ degree oil temps constantly when driving to work...and that's driving easy. Limp modes three times, two times on the way to work, causing you to be late to work. "This is unacceptable. I pay X grand for this car and I get these problems, I can't even get to work." They'll take care of you. They did to me.
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FotiosF90M5 ///M Specialist South Shore BMW 772 Rep 7,108 Posts Drives: 2021 M5 Comp BHG/Silverstone Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Shore, MA iTrader: (62)	Thanks for the advice guys.I hope it goes smooth. __________________ 2021 M5 COMPETITION LCI Brands Hatch Gray on SIlverstone, carbon roof, comp wheels, Mperf splitter, carbon pro spoiler, carbon diffuser , carbon paddles, executive pkg. Dinan HAS, RaceChip, dinan spacers, FC stud kit, etc
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12-26-2007, 05:56 PM	#8
DrDomer Major 39 Rep 1,349 Posts Drives: 2004 330ci ZHP, 1999 Miata Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Iowa iTrader: (0)	Can't they just run a log of oil temps? I was thinking of saying my car is running too hot, and limping... but wouldn't they just do a diagnostic test and see that you're lying? I think approaching it from the standpt of taking your car to a performance driving school might work better. I'm in the same boat as Fotios, except I'm going to track the car this summer. At least I hope to. I won't if there's no oil cooler. I think it's funny that I paid more money for a 335i AT with ZSP than did you guys with MT, but you get the oil cooler and I get the shaft. Nice. __________________ Any man who can drive safely while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves. ~Albert Einstein
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FotiosF90M5 ///M Specialist South Shore BMW 772 Rep 7,108 Posts Drives: 2021 M5 Comp BHG/Silverstone Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Shore, MA iTrader: (62)	Im not sure if they have a log of temps but they can see how many times it went into limp mode. For me once is enough. It really shouldnt happen at all. __________________ 2021 M5 COMPETITION LCI Brands Hatch Gray on SIlverstone, carbon roof, comp wheels, Mperf splitter, carbon pro spoiler, carbon diffuser , carbon paddles, executive pkg. Dinan HAS, RaceChip, dinan spacers, FC stud kit, etc
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FotiosF90M5 ///M Specialist South Shore BMW 772 Rep 7,108 Posts Drives: 2021 M5 Comp BHG/Silverstone Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Shore, MA iTrader: (62)	yeah, its an automatic. __________________ 2021 M5 COMPETITION LCI Brands Hatch Gray on SIlverstone, carbon roof, comp wheels, Mperf splitter, carbon pro spoiler, carbon diffuser , carbon paddles, executive pkg. Dinan HAS, RaceChip, dinan spacers, FC stud kit, etc
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DrDomer Major 39 Rep 1,349 Posts Drives: 2004 330ci ZHP, 1999 Miata Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Iowa iTrader: (0)	Of course it is... UGH... It sucks. __________________ Any man who can drive safely while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves. ~Albert Einstein
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12-26-2007, 08:12 PM	#17
normtrum Colonel 52 Rep 2,225 Posts Drives: e90 335i, e46 330i Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: PNW iTrader: (1)	Fotios - I was told by my SA that all I have to do is send him an email and tell him i'm consistantely running above 275 -280....and that's basically it. He said I don't have to go into limp mode, or need to do anything else except compose the email. This conversation occurred last month btw, but he said another 335 AT customer did exactly what I mentioned above, and he had a new OC installed in less then 1 week. All heresay I know....but wanted you to know how my conversation went. I haven't dont it yet, as I am never above 250. Good luck!! __________________ 07 335i sedan \| Steptronic \| Black saphire \| Terra \| ZPP \| ZSP \| Cold Weather \| CA \| PDC \| Nav \| OEM Alarm
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FotiosF90M5 ///M Specialist South Shore BMW 772 Rep 7,108 Posts Drives: 2021 M5 Comp BHG/Silverstone Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Shore, MA iTrader: (62)	got a call from bmwna and they said they are going ahead with a goodwill retrofit kit and all the parts are being shipped to my dealer.could take a while for the parts to come in.At first they were making me make an appointment to get it diagnosed blah,blah,blah but they just called 2 days later and said they were giving me the cooler. pretty pumped! __________________ 2021 M5 COMPETITION LCI Brands Hatch Gray on SIlverstone, carbon roof, comp wheels, Mperf splitter, carbon pro spoiler, carbon diffuser , carbon paddles, executive pkg. Dinan HAS, RaceChip, dinan spacers, FC stud kit, etc
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