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An unfourtunate first...broke my v2 harness while installing...help Vishnu
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12-28-2007, 12:38 AM | #1 |
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An unfourtunate first...broke my v2 harness while installing...help Vishnu
As the title says, I broke the v2 harness while installing it:
Everything was going fine untill Step 4: Hooking up 12v Power. I extracted the orange cable from the connector but while trying to connect it to the harness female spade connector I pushed too hard and the harness spade connector broke off. I'm actually suprised that no one encountered this problem before since getting the orange cable to go completly in the harness female spade connector seemed like an impossible task. edit: after checking the vishnu forum it doesn't seem like i'm the only one having this issue, can those who experienced this please chime in: http://www.vishnutuningforum.com/for...?t=285&page=11 posts 104,105 and 106 I tried calling vishnu but they are off untill the third of January. What are my options other than going back to the 1.47 setup ? Shiv can you send me another one overnight? any feedback would be welcome. Last edited by Barat; 12-28-2007 at 12:59 AM.. |
12-28-2007, 12:40 AM | #2 |
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If you broke the harness side, I'm sure you can probably get something similar from a car audio store or Radio Shack. You could solder it on and heat shrink it around the wire.
It'd probably cost you a few dollars for a pack at most.
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12-28-2007, 12:58 AM | #3 |
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not sure how i would do that as it broke right there:
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12-28-2007, 03:45 AM | #6 |
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All you broke is the 10 cent blue insulated spade connector on the V2 side, correct? If so: 1. Cut that old heat shrink and spade connector off. 2. Strip back the wire insulation on the V2 side, about 1/8". 3. Get your new spade connector and either (a) crimp on or (b) solder on-preferred. 4. Heat shrink over the new spade connector like the old one was. 5. Done.
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12-28-2007, 09:02 AM | #8 | |
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Yup, follow those steps exactly. BTW, my female spade connector broke off during installation as well. And as you said, I'm sure it's happened to many others, so don't worry about it. When I read the title, I thought you actually BROKE the v2 harness. I was like, "how do you break that thing unless you hit it with a hammer." |
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12-28-2007, 09:09 AM | #9 |
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easy fix, don't need any soldering tool, home depot or radio shack should have the spade connector and the heat shrink. You just need a handy knife, a handy plyer, and a heat source
What I am trying to say is just your basic around the house tools will get you back on track again (given you purchased the replaced parts at radio shack)!
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12-28-2007, 10:27 AM | #10 |
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Both my female and male connectors broke. IMO, the primary cause for this problem is that the female spade connector being installed on the V2 harness is not the correct size. The width is right, but the thickness is off. My male connector has ruts in it where the female was digging into it.
If your ECU side connector breaks, it's a fairly cheap part at your BMW parts store. It's not horribly difficult to fix, but it's a PITA and completely avoidable if the right part had been used. I'm of the opinion that, once you're in this position, calling Vishnu about this problem isn't going to be any help. Fixing the harness yourself, getting a buddy's help, or at worst going to a car audio or local performance shop to get some help with the crimping or soldering is going to be your fastest way out.
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12-28-2007, 01:59 PM | #11 |
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This appears to be a common theme with V2 installs. I think Orb pointed this out in an earlier thread somewhere...
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12-28-2007, 05:24 PM | #12 |
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Yes, mine broke at the same location. The wire is too short and the bend destroys the connection. This has been a horrible install. Worse than v1 and was marketed as a simple upgrade. Now looking for some wire and a soldering iron.
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12-28-2007, 05:37 PM | #13 |
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Mine broke today on the V2 install. Had spare connectors laying around here and fixed it in 5 mins. Other than that the install went great. Full power and no CELs.
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12-28-2007, 06:28 PM | #14 |
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Just have to take your time. I installed mine no problem. But being aware of others having broke connectors i took my time and make sure as i was pushing they wires on the v2 harness were still straight and not bending, once it bends it will snap i think. Just take your time and dont rush and push to hard.
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12-28-2007, 06:54 PM | #15 |
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Ok...I'll chime in. I did the exact same thing!!! I feel the problem isn't the wire being to short, I think it's way too long! You have to really be careful when you place the newly installed power hookup back under the little green box. It's best to pull off the black tape that is holding the orange ecu wire, so you have more room to work with. I don't know why people are/were complaining about the size of the black wire....I would have loved to have had the shorter set up on the original v2's.
Anyways, like many others have said, it was an easy fix....even for me . I just took the broken female piece up to RS, and bought a new one + a crimper. After I got home I had it fixed within 5 minutes...no need to soder.
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12-28-2007, 07:30 PM | #17 |
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Comments of this problem being the end user fault are kind of pathetic. This is an example of poor execution of a harness design. The connection is neither safe nor approved by any authority when outside of a connector housing and the wiring is obviously to short. Shiv will be personally liable if someone is hurt by his irresponsibility.
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12-28-2007, 07:34 PM | #18 |
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Here's the original thread on the broken harness connector, FYI.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94507
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Guys,
Take your time when installing the power wire. As suggested in the instructions, sliding back the black ribbon tape holding the two factory wires together will free up any tension that would otherwise occur. Although we lengthed the wire by a couple of inches a while back, it's still important that this step is done. Since the last batch of harnesses, we've also 'loosened up the" tight grip the female terminal has on the male terminal. This should make it easier to push one into the other. I know of a few instances were the connections broke during this part of the install. If anyone broke any component during the install, pls PM me. We are closed this week with most of us soon to be scattered all over the country so shipping anything will have to wait until after New Years. The famale terminal that broke during the OP's installation is just an off-the-shelf female terminal that can be found at any hardware store, btw. So as much as I hate to say it, going there would get everything up and running quicker than waiting for us to get back into the office to ship you something. Regards, Shiv Last edited by OpenFlash; 12-28-2007 at 08:55 PM.. |
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12-28-2007, 08:51 PM | #20 |
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nice. seriously dude, if you can afford a lamborghini (and are going to reference it in your profile) hire an extra support person. you're almost mocking your customers. how pathetic. not cool at all for people that have put up so much money for your product and have put so much faith in you.
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12-28-2007, 10:44 PM | #21 | |
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Like I said before, I broke mine, then ran up to RS and had it fixed in 5 minutes. The reason they changed the lenght of the black wire was because of the feedback from forum members.
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Let me make sure I have this correct... * you have a problem with the product * the company responds to your problem when they are closed and on vacation * you bitch back at them because you don't like the answer You're being unreasonable. |
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