[tony20009]

I didn't, but perhaps someone was more fortunate than I.

Edit:
Sure, getting the car at some point close to Christmas counts if a Christmas gift was indeed what it was, as opposed to a conveniently timed purchase. What doesn't count is leased cars as you have to give them back.

[Br0okLYnzSouLJa]

2015 435i. First brand new car purchase and couldn't be any happier with her!

[spuntyb]

Does the day before thanksgiving count?

[B Brownburry]

December 12th counts?

335 Gt, gift to myself!

[focal]

two years in a row...last year a 328i RWD, this year helped my dad pick up a 320xdrive

[NHman]

Two weeks prior to Christmas, 435i GC (plus a X3 28i for my wife).

[instalher]

bought for my georgeous wife a 2014 320i xdrive

[Squiden]

Yes - 435xi GC... Should be coming off the boat tomorrow! :-D

[jd_perspective]

Why can't leases count 😉
I signed my paperwork for my lease on 12/24... But it was ordered back in nov and pcd is jan...

[tony20009]

Originally Posted by exl_ent_v6

Why can't leases count 😉
I signed my paperwork for my lease on 12/24... But it was ordered back in nov and pcd is jan...

Because you have to give the car back to the dealer/lessor. Do you typically give Christmas gifts that the recipient can keep only for a limited time and that they will have to pay extra money if they use it more than a third party has stipulated?

All the best.

[openwheelracing]

Originally Posted by tony20009

Because you have to give the car back to the dealer/lessor. Do you typically give Christmas gifts that the recipient can keep only for a limited time and that they will have to pay extra money if they use it more than a third party has stipulated?

All the best.

Of course lease counts. Do you not count chocolate, flowers, pencil, and millions other gifts that the recipient can keep "only for a limited time"?

[tony20009]

Originally Posted by openwheelracing

Of course lease counts. Do you not count chocolate, flowers, pencil, and millions other gifts that the recipient can keep "only for a limited time"?

My comment re: limited time" expanded on the basic idea that leased cars don't count for the purpose of my thread because one must give them back at the end of the lease. That one may fully consume the items you mentioned illustrates the key difference between a leased and purchased car: one can entirely consume a purchased car, burn it by fire or sink it to the bottom of the sea if one wants to, and owe nothing to anyone else; entirely "consuming" a leased car will effectively convert the lease to a purchase. By all means, if anyone who received a leased car has since receiving it entirely "consumed" it such that it can no longer be used as a car, and the person who gave them the leased car is going to cover the financial impact of that "consumption," sure they can cite that the car was a Christmas gift.

If someone received a leased car as a gift, and the gift giver has agreed to make the payments over the term of the lease, then they can cite lease payments (money) as the gift, but not the car for they still can't keep the car once the lease ends.

Red:
When you create a similarly themed thread, you are free to say leased cars count. In my thread, they do not.

All the best.

[spuntyb]

Originally Posted by tony20009

My comment re: limited time" expanded on the basic idea that leased cars don't count for the purpose of my thread because one must give them back at the end of the lease. That one may fully consume the items you mentioned illustrates the key difference between a leased and purchased car: one can entirely consume a purchased car, burn it by fire or sink it to the bottom of the sea if one wants to, and owe nothing to anyone else; entirely "consuming" a leased car will effectively convert the lease to a purchase. By all means, if anyone who received a leased car has since receiving it entirely "consumed" it such that it can no longer be used as a car, and the person who gave them the leased car is going to cover the financial impact of that "consumption," sure they can cite that the car was a Christmas gift.

If someone received a leased car as a gift, and the gift giver has agreed to make the payments over the term of the lease, then they can cite lease payments (money) as the gift, but not the car for they still can't keep the car once the lease ends.

Red:
When you create a similarly themed thread, you are free to say leased cars count. In my thread, they do not.

All the best.

You don't technically *have* to give a lease back. It can be purchased at lease end.

[openwheelracing]

Strange and the logic makes no sense. So why do you count financed BMWs?

Fyi, you dont "have to" give the car back at the end of a lease. You have many more options. You may lease it forever if you wish.

[Simert]

435xd F32. Best Christmas present as it's my first new car.

[tony20009]

At the end of the day, a lease is nothing more than an arrangement whereby a lessee agrees to purchase (pay for) a portion of the value of the item leased. So if one wants to say they got part of a car for Christmas, they can say that. But that's not what I asked.

Originally Posted by spuntyb

You don't technically *have* to give a lease back. It can be purchased at lease end.

It can be, but that involves shifting from an an agreement to lease to a purchase agreement, and doing so isn't a forgone conclusion for the lessor or lessee at the inception of the lease. If the original includes a requirement that the leasee exercise a "bargain purchase option" included in the lease, then sure, I'd say it counts, but you and I both know that BMW's car leases have no such requirement.

Originally Posted by openwheelracing

...Fyi, you dont "have to" give the car back at the end of a lease. You have many more options. You may lease it forever if you wish.

One does have additional options, but they all require a new agreement as opposed to the original lease agreement, even if the actual terms themselves don't differ between the two agreements. If any of the terms differ, it is necessarily a new lease agreement, even if the car leased is the same vehicle leased under the original agreement.

All the best.

[openwheelracing]

So why do you count financed BMWs?

[tboooe]

Originally Posted by openwheelracing

Strange and the logic makes no sense. So why do you count financed BMWs?

Fyi, you dont "have to" give the car back at the end of a lease. You have many more options. You may lease it forever if you wish.

I am all for a lively debate but frankly whats the point of this one? The OP started a thread and he does not want to include leased cars. His thread his prerogative. If we disagree lets start our own and include leases.

[openwheelracing]

Originally Posted by tboooe

I am all for a lively debate but frankly whats the point of this one? The OP started a thread and he does not want to include leased cars. His thread his prerogative. If we disagree lets start our own and include leases.

If you don't like our discussion/argument then you can skip it. Your post certainly doesn't qualify as lively debate and it adds zero value to it.

[tboooe]

Originally Posted by openwheelracing

If you don't like our discussion/argument then you can skip it. Your post certainly doesn't qualify as lively debate.

I apologize if my post came off the wrong way, certainly not my intent. My only point is that the OP did not want to include lease in his poll.

Debate on and again my apologies.

[Maxdog]

Keep going guys this is getting good.

[dubdemand]

No BMW for me but I did get a new house