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      01-30-2015, 07:15 AM   #1
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OEM RWD MSport Springs on an xDrive MSport car?

i would assume that the springs used on a RWD MSport car with passive suspension are not the same. I want to mildly drop my car, and I think these would be perfect but I want to make sure they would work on my xDrive MSport 428. I was also hoping such a mild drop wouldn't effect the struts too much.

Any ideas? Anyone done this yet?

EDIT: IM DESPERATE I'LL PAY SOMEONE 50 BUCKS TO DO THIS LOL
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really? not a single person has done this? Damn having a new car that people haven't tried a million things on (unlike my old E90)
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Id like to know as well. My MSport 435 currently looks like a monster truck.
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Id like to know as well. My MSport 435 currently looks like a monster truck.
I can't believe no one knows. Maybe one of us will just have to be the first to try.
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I can't believe no one knows. Maybe one of us will just have to be the first to try.
Get a set of Eibachs, it will be better (lower and just right stiffer ride and handling) than the OEM M Sport springs -and cheaper.
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Id like to know as well. My MSport 435 currently looks like a monster truck.
Me too!

I would guess the springs would fit, but I think I remember the part #'s are different (likely to the heavier x drive).

How much that will affect the car? Not sure.

I have a feeling the better thing to do would buy 335x or 435 Dinan springs.
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Get a set of Eibachs, it will be better (lower and just right stiffer ride and handling) than the OEM M Sport springs -and cheaper.
Eibach doesn't make a kit for the F32.

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Me too!

I would guess the springs would fit, but I think I remember the part #'s are different (likely to the heavier x drive).

How much that will affect the car? Not sure.

I have a feeling the better thing to do would buy 335x or 435 Dinan springs.
Well yeah I would expect the PN's to be different, since its a different part lol.

My feeling on the Dinan is that if they intended it to work on an XDrive car they would have listed it for that, right now they have a set for 435i RWD only, which in and of itself doesn't make sense as it should work on the 428i RWD also.

We will probably just have to bite the bullet and get H&R, not that there is anything wrong with them but I don't know if I want to go as low as they go. Atleast as low as I think they go....
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I can't believe no one knows. Maybe one of us will just have to be the first to try.
Get a set of Eibachs, it will be better (lower and just right stiffer ride and handling) than the OEM M Sport springs -and cheaper.
+1. What about increased strut wear? I'm not familiar with BMW factory / m-sport / sport struts and how much they do / don't like lowering springs.

My traditional rule of thumb was always to do a mild spring with strut combo or a coilover setup...
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+1. What about increased strut wear? I'm not familiar with BMW factory / m-sport / sport struts and how much they do / don't like lowering springs.

My traditional rule of thumb was always to do a mild spring with strut combo or a coilover setup...
Yeah any aftermarket spring, or any spring that isn't stock for the vehicles options will most likely wear out the strut early. That's probably not a major consideration for people leasing but for those who have purchased their car it might be. Obviously a full coilover set is the best option for lowering but at the price point.... eh...
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I looked at the AC Schnitzer units, but they seem to make the car sit uneven. I won't go with HR as they seem to be either too low or a harsh ride...

Will wait for Dinan
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I looked at the AC Schnitzer units, but they seem to make the car sit uneven. I won't go with HR as they seem to be either too low or a harsh ride...

Will wait for Dinan
Normally I wouldn't go for Dinan stuff but I think I will hold out for a solution from them too in this case.
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Should fit fine. If you look at the model applications for the Eibach and ACS springs then there is typically a given rear spring for a particular bodystyle, regardless of drivetrain. For the front there is a chance that the car would sit a touch lower on the sDrive M-Sport springs than the sDrive, but there appears to be little change in spec otherwise. For example the ACS springs for a 4cyl xDrive are the same as a 6cyl sDrive.
I think the 6 cyl diesel is a touch heavier, so you may want to go for the rear suspension from any MSport F32, but with the front suspension from a 3/430d sDrive. Should be available from your local dealer if you can come up with the part no's.
That said, you still won't have done the anti-roll bars, and it will probably work out so expensive that you'd be better just going for a full ACS kit instead.
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Should fit fine. If you look at the model applications for the Eibach and ACS springs then there is typically a given rear spring for a particular bodystyle, regardless of drivetrain. For the front there is a chance that the car would sit a touch lower on the sDrive M-Sport springs than the sDrive, but there appears to be little change in spec otherwise. For example the ACS springs for a 4cyl xDrive are the same as a 6cyl sDrive.
I think the 6 cyl diesel is a touch heavier, so you may want to go for the rear suspension from any MSport F32, but with the front suspension from a 3/430d sDrive. Should be available from your local dealer if you can come up with the part no's.
That said, you still won't have done the anti-roll bars, and it will probably work out so expensive that you'd be better just going for a full ACS kit instead.
I saw a set of used RWD springs for cheap, which is why I am asking.
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Sorry, yours is a 4cyl xDrive, you should be fine with 6Cyl sDrive springs and dampers.
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Sorry, yours is a 4cyl xDrive, you should be fine with 6Cyl sDrive springs and dampers.
What do you think the lowering would be?

Ever Maybe like half an inch front and rear?
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I believe the xDrive is supposed to sit around 10mm higher.
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Anyone done this yet? C'mon people
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Sounds like a reasonable OEM+ kind of mod. I see no reason why it wouldn't work but this is my first BMW and shit always seems weird when trying to swap little shit like this.

I'm guessing it's not the price of the springs that's stopping you but the price of installing the springs and finding out they don't swap right in.
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Sounds like a reasonable OEM+ kind of mod. I see no reason why it wouldn't work but this is my first BMW and shit always seems weird when trying to swap little shit like this.

I'm guessing it's not the price of the springs that's stopping you but the price of installing the springs and finding out they don't swap right in.
I know that you can physically put them in, and I know that really it should work with no problems, I'm more curious to see what the drop is like because if we can just the 10mm lower it should be that would really help removing the 4x4 status of the xDrive cars while maintaining good handling.

I also think this won't ruin our struts over time like h&r springs will. I'm also hoping the ride won't be bouncy like h&r. It should be OEM+ like you said.

I'm very close to just biting the bullet and doing it
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What's your paypal address? I'll send you $10.
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I'm very close to just biting the bullet and doing it
Just do it!
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