E90Post
 


 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Technical Forums > Cosmetic and Lighting Modifications (exterior/interior) > Upgrading HID's, Osram D1S best choice for bluer hue?



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      02-18-2015, 11:56 AM   #1
BeastMode335i
Maximus Decimus Meridius
BeastMode335i's Avatar
United_States
1130
Rep
4,584
Posts

Drives: F30 335i
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Down South

iTrader: (2)

Upgrading HID's, Osram D1S best choice for bluer hue?

So I want a bit more of a blue look to my HID's and I've read the Osram D1S bulbs will be best for my E92.. I see quite a few D1S options out there that offer this bluer hue, but I also see some BMW's with stock HID's that have more blue than my E92. I take it not all 08+ D1S bulbs are the same on BMW's then right? My neighborhood has a few BMW's and lately I've been paying attention to the lights and while my HID's are stock and very bright white with zero to no blue, I see a few here and there with that blue tint to them but still bright enough to be seen a mile away.. I see that the most common Osram's are 5000K, maybe I should seek a higher rated kelvin D1S bulb? I know the higher you get the more white you sacrafice though.

Any input on this would be great..!
Appreciate 0
      02-18-2015, 04:04 PM   #2
Chrispy650
Lieutenant
Chrispy650's Avatar
United_States
57
Rep
559
Posts

Drives: E92 LCI
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: SoCal (Irvine)

iTrader: (2)

This is probably what you want. I have the Osram CBI and they are more of a pure white but definitely have OEM output. The ones below are very similar in quality with a slightly higher kelvin so they will have that bluish tint but still have great output (a lot better than aftermarket). Plus TRS, is an awesome company that sell quality and legit products.

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/com...l#.VOUL8vnF-L0
Appreciate 1
      02-18-2015, 04:29 PM   #3
dbworld4k
Banned
Canada
583
Rep
2,233
Posts

Drives: '12 M3
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: YYZ

iTrader: (5)

Garage List
2002 BMW M5  [10.00]
2009 BMW 335i  [10.00]
^ +1

Osram CBI are the best HID bulbs money can buy for output and nice color as well. Tonnes of counterfeits on the market though, so it's best to buy from a verified and reputable source.
Appreciate 0
      02-18-2015, 06:52 PM   #4
BeastMode335i
Maximus Decimus Meridius
BeastMode335i's Avatar
United_States
1130
Rep
4,584
Posts

Drives: F30 335i
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Down South

iTrader: (2)

Thanks guys! Glad to hear multiple positive reviews on these! I don't like the 10K blue but the 6-8000k looks so clean coming down the street!

Do these bulbs really get as long a lifetime as they are suggested to have??

Last edited by BeastMode335i; 02-19-2015 at 07:06 AM..
Appreciate 0
      02-18-2015, 06:57 PM   #5
CrippledLucifer
First Lieutenant
Canada
127
Rep
369
Posts

Drives: '09 E90 328i 6MT, '16 F10 535i
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Ottawa, Ontario

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2016 BMW 535i  [0.00]
2009 BMW 328i  [0.00]
Can't go wrong with stuff from TRS. Excellent service and quality products as mentioned by others. I've had my Osram Xenarc CBI's for well over a year and half and they're flawless. I went with the 5,000K option as I prefer the pure white look, but to each his own.
Appreciate 0
      02-18-2015, 07:12 PM   #6
Dark_Knight_335
Came to the N55 Darkside
Dark_Knight_335's Avatar
United_States
1112
Rep
12,740
Posts

Drives: 2011 335 E93 M-Sport
Join Date: May 2010
Location: NY/NJ

iTrader: (28)

Osram CBIs have no hint of blue, despite their misleading name. They are 5000k, mostly white on the Kelvin scale.

You'll be happier with a 6000K D1S, such as Phillips Ultinon if you ask me- I know this from previous experience

That said, I have the 5000K CBIs now like Cyanide, and could not be happier with them.
Appreciate 1
      02-18-2015, 09:04 PM   #7
simpleM3
Major
simpleM3's Avatar
165
Rep
1,403
Posts

Drives: 06' E46 M3 ZCP
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Fairfax, VA

iTrader: (13)

Garage List
19’ BMW M5C  [0.00]
2007 E61 530XI  [0.00]
2006 E46 M3  [0.00]
Are the Osram CBIs a D1S or D2S bulb? I've been told both fit, but is that actually true? What's the difference?
Appreciate 0
      02-19-2015, 08:04 AM   #8
BeastMode335i
Maximus Decimus Meridius
BeastMode335i's Avatar
United_States
1130
Rep
4,584
Posts

Drives: F30 335i
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Down South

iTrader: (2)

Are these the philips you're referring to?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-D1S-HID-B...35f371&vxp=mtr

I saw them all around $300, but then saw these for $75 lol..!
Appreciate 0
      02-19-2015, 08:40 AM   #9
marketmaster
First Lieutenant
35
Rep
311
Posts

Drives: 2007 BMW 335
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: United States-TX

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BeastMode335i View Post
Are these the philips you're referring to?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-D1S-HID-B...35f371&vxp=mtr

I saw them all around $300, but then saw these for $75 lol..!
Those are fake. Like the posters above said, there are TONS of fake bulbs on the market with almost exact labeling.

Also, about "bluer" lights, remember, the higher you go over 4.3k, the more light you will actually lose. So yes, they might look nicer, but you are sacrificing actual light output. With that said, I decided to go with the TRS XB35 6k D1S. They are only $50 and great bulbs. Here is an excellent comparison test that validates exactly what i was speaking about:

http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...-D2S-Bulb-Test

If you want the XB35's in D1S, you have to call because they aren't on their website.
Appreciate 1
      02-19-2015, 08:54 AM   #10
CrippledLucifer
First Lieutenant
Canada
127
Rep
369
Posts

Drives: '09 E90 328i 6MT, '16 F10 535i
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Ottawa, Ontario

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2016 BMW 535i  [0.00]
2009 BMW 328i  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by simple330i View Post
Are the Osram CBIs a D1S or D2S bulb? I've been told both fit, but is that actually true? What's the difference?
E90's use D1S bulbs.

D2S is the older generation of bulb which requires an external igniter which is either in the ballast or in the cable.

D1S are the newer technology bulbs and have the igniters built into the bulb. Aside from Japanese manufactures, I believe all other car manufacturers are using D1S as the standard.
Appreciate 0
      02-19-2015, 08:58 AM   #11
BeastMode335i
Maximus Decimus Meridius
BeastMode335i's Avatar
United_States
1130
Rep
4,584
Posts

Drives: F30 335i
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Down South

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by marketmaster View Post
Those are fake. Like the posters above said, there are TONS of fake bulbs on the market with almost exact labeling.

Also, about "bluer" lights, remember, the higher you go over 4.3k, the more light you will actually lose. So yes, they might look nicer, but you are sacrificing actual light output. With that said, I decided to go with the TRS XB35 6k D1S. They are only $50 and great bulbs. Here is an excellent comparison test that validates exactly what i was speaking about:

http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...-D2S-Bulb-Test

If you want the XB35's in D1S, you have to call because they aren't on their website.
Yeah that's what I was referring to in my earlier post, that I know I will lose some actual light output, but from 4300k to 6000k I think I will be fine with the slight loss.. I did a retrofit on my old Civic EM1 with some S2K projectors and I had 6k D2S bulbs and they were outstanding but I forgot exactly where I got them.. I think they were out of a Q series infiniti, and I refuse to put anything made for an Infiniti in my bimmer lmao..!

Thanks for that insight on the XB35's, I just googled some of their images and they look awesome! And for $50 you can't really go wrong!
Appreciate 0
      02-19-2015, 08:59 AM   #12
Dark_Knight_335
Came to the N55 Darkside
Dark_Knight_335's Avatar
United_States
1112
Rep
12,740
Posts

Drives: 2011 335 E93 M-Sport
Join Date: May 2010
Location: NY/NJ

iTrader: (28)

Quote:
Originally Posted by marketmaster
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeastMode335i View Post
Are these the philips you're referring to?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-D1S-HID-B...35f371&vxp=mtr

I saw them all around $300, but then saw these for $75 lol..!
Those are fake. Like the posters above said, there are TONS of fake bulbs on the market with almost exact labeling.

Also, about "bluer" lights, remember, the higher you go over 4.3k, the more light you will actually lose. So yes, they might look nicer, but you are sacrificing actual light output. With that said, I decided to go with the TRS XB35 6k D1S. They are only $50 and great bulbs. Here is an excellent comparison test that validates exactly what i was speaking about:

http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...-D2S-Bulb-Test

If you want the XB35's in D1S, you have to call because they aren't on their website.
This. Please be careful that you're getting the genuine real deal- a good source for them would be highperformancebulbs.com
Appreciate 0
      02-19-2015, 09:08 AM   #13
still in school
Private First Class
3
Rep
108
Posts

Drives: e92 335i
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Houston, Tx

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by marketmaster View Post
Those are fake. Like the posters above said, there are TONS of fake bulbs on the market with almost exact labeling.

Also, about "bluer" lights, remember, the higher you go over 4.3k, the more light you will actually lose. So yes, they might look nicer, but you are sacrificing actual light output. With that said, I decided to go with the TRS XB35 6k D1S. They are only $50 and great bulbs. Here is an excellent comparison test that validates exactly what i was speaking about:

http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...-D2S-Bulb-Test

If you want the XB35's in D1S, you have to call because they aren't on their website.
Great link! Very interesting. Seems like the xb35 is the best bang for the buck! Did you notice an increase in light output after installing them?
Appreciate 0
      02-19-2015, 09:23 AM   #14
BeastMode335i
Maximus Decimus Meridius
BeastMode335i's Avatar
United_States
1130
Rep
4,584
Posts

Drives: F30 335i
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Down South

iTrader: (2)

What are some good tell-tale signs of a fraud!?
Appreciate 0
      02-19-2015, 09:23 AM   #15
marketmaster
First Lieutenant
35
Rep
311
Posts

Drives: 2007 BMW 335
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: United States-TX

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by still in school View Post
Great link! Very interesting. Seems like the xb35 is the best bang for the buck! Did you notice an increase in light output after installing them?
I haven't been able to install them yet. From my old bulbs, I would expect an increase in output but from the OEM, I might not. Only because I am moving from a 4.3k (max available output) to a 6k bulb.
Appreciate 0
      02-19-2015, 09:25 AM   #16
marketmaster
First Lieutenant
35
Rep
311
Posts

Drives: 2007 BMW 335
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: United States-TX

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BeastMode335i View Post
What are some good tell-tale signs of a fraud!?
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...ips-Bulb-Guide
Appreciate 0
      02-19-2015, 09:51 AM   #17
9mmkungfu
Captain
198
Rep
844
Posts

Drives: 335d, 535d, 750i, X5 35d
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: United States

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by marketmaster View Post
For those that don't want to register on the site just to view the PDF, I have attached it here.
Attached Images
File Type: pdf How to Spot a Fake.pdf (317.1 KB, 242 views)
Appreciate 0
      02-19-2015, 10:03 AM   #18
BeastMode335i
Maximus Decimus Meridius
BeastMode335i's Avatar
United_States
1130
Rep
4,584
Posts

Drives: F30 335i
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Down South

iTrader: (2)

Thanks! That's some very close inspection action going on there!
Appreciate 0
      02-20-2015, 03:07 PM   #19
whiskey_waffle
Enlisted Member
3
Rep
30
Posts

Drives: 2011 e90 335i
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by marketmaster View Post
Those are fake. Like the posters above said, there are TONS of fake bulbs on the market with almost exact labeling.

Also, about "bluer" lights, remember, the higher you go over 4.3k, the more light you will actually lose. So yes, they might look nicer, but you are sacrificing actual light output. With that said, I decided to go with the TRS XB35 6k D1S. They are only $50 and great bulbs. Here is an excellent comparison test that validates exactly what i was speaking about:

http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...-D2S-Bulb-Test

If you want the XB35's in D1S, you have to call because they aren't on their website.
I just bought a pair yesterday from TRS in 5000k. They're in the closeout section for $15
Nvm. It's the Morimoto bulbs in the clearance section not the xb35

Last edited by whiskey_waffle; 02-20-2015 at 03:08 PM.. Reason: clarification
Appreciate 0
      02-27-2015, 03:19 PM   #20
BeastMode335i
Maximus Decimus Meridius
BeastMode335i's Avatar
United_States
1130
Rep
4,584
Posts

Drives: F30 335i
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Down South

iTrader: (2)

I've done a lot of reading lately, and many people suggest the Mtec D1S 6K's.. They seem to have a good reputation..
Appreciate 0
      03-03-2015, 10:07 AM   #21
marketmaster
First Lieutenant
35
Rep
311
Posts

Drives: 2007 BMW 335
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: United States-TX

iTrader: (2)

I was able to get my bulbs installed. Of course we all know what a PITA it is to change out the bulbs. I'm waiting for a little more hours on them so they color shift and can give you some accurate pictures. I do like the color.
Appreciate 0
      03-03-2015, 10:12 AM   #22
BeastMode335i
Maximus Decimus Meridius
BeastMode335i's Avatar
United_States
1130
Rep
4,584
Posts

Drives: F30 335i
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Down South

iTrader: (2)

U got the 6k's right?
__________________
F30 335i
Melbourne Red Metallic
M-Sport Package
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:10 AM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST