Favour please- can those with a 335d/330d xdrive tourers measure their ride height?

Tengocity · 03-08-2015, 08:06 AM

Doesn't matter whether your standard or on aftermarket springs I'm curious to see what heights different cars are at.
I had noted down my before figures somewhere but can't find them now, and would be useful to have to gauge what height ranges various other coilover options would give me.

So mine now seems to be 65.5cm at rear and 69cm at front.

Thanks!

Dave_3 · 03-08-2015, 09:20 AM

Just ask anybody who has had a KDS done to post their results.

It states both the expected ride height for that specific model, and the actual recorded ride height for each corner.

D.

DTP1980 · 03-08-2015, 09:23 AM

I presume you are measuring to the arch above the tyre?

Interesting that, as per a visual inspection, that the front is riding considerably higher on ACS springs, which doesn't make sense as it's only the rear that will ever get loaded up and consequently further reduce the ride height. I wonder whether is a mistake? We need Lorcan....

Tengocity · 03-08-2015, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DTP1980

I presume you are measuring to the arch above the tyre?

Interesting that, as per a visual inspection, that the front is riding considerably higher on ACS springs, which doesn't make sense as it's only the rear that will ever get loaded up and consequently further reduce the ride height. I wonder whether is a mistake? We need Lorcan....

Yes, correct, ground to the arch lip.

Looking at photos of when it was done it does seem to have got lower at the rear.

Tengocity · 03-08-2015, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave_3

Just ask anybody who has had a KDS done to post their results.

It states both the expected ride height for that specific model, and the actual recorded ride height for each corner.

D.

Good idea Dave. I've got mine from when they were changed so will try and locate it

MWA · 03-08-2015, 09:45 AM

Standard 335d, with adaptive. Visually, I have never had an issue with it. I will get the measures later for you

mcdokika · 03-08-2015, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tengocity

Doesn't matter whether your standard or on aftermarket springs I'm curious to see what heights different cars are at.
I had noted down my before figures somewhere but can't find them now, and would be useful to have to gauge what height ranges various other coilover options would give me.

So mine now seems to be 65.5cm at rear and 69cm at front.

Thanks!

I have a limousine but I will measure it on Tuesday before/after AC Schnitzer springs.

teaston · 03-08-2015, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MWA

Standard 335d, with adaptive. Visually, I have never had an issue with it. I will get the measures later for you

It does look high, but you wouldn't want it any lower with the MP kit on!

workshybum · 03-08-2015, 10:23 AM

Can't get to the car for measurements at the moment, but here's a picture. The low angle here makes it look higher than from the normal perspective, but it does ride quite high.

While I do like the look of a lowered car, I'd probably have problems getting it on my driveway if it was too much lower. The 10mm drop of the standard M Sport suspension makes things quite tight.

There also seems to be a direct correlation between how low my cars are and how much grief I get off the wife

Edit: Sorry should have specified in case it's not obvious. Completely Standard, Non Adaptive.

DTP1980 · 03-08-2015, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mcdokika

I have a limousine but I will measure it on Tuesday before/after AC Schnitzer springs.

You'll need a few days of bouncy driving to let it settle down first, but info will be useful as I didn't check before and after seeing as I did it from new.

My measurements, as you'd expect, are the same as yours Terry.

The 4 series, xDrive on adaptives, but on winters and 18's is 69 front and rear. So matched.

mcdokika · 03-08-2015, 12:02 PM

Since I saw my neighbour's California I have not been as conscious about the front arch gap I will still have after ACS

Also not interested in the spacers anymore!

Good lesson .

Tengocity · 03-08-2015, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DTP1980

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcdokika

I have a limousine but I will measure it on Tuesday before/after AC Schnitzer springs.

You'll need a few days of bouncy driving to let it settle down first, but info will be useful as I didn't check before and after seeing as I did it from new.

My measurements, as you'd expect, are the same as yours Terry.

The 4 series, xDrive on adaptives, but on winters and 18's is 69 front and rear. So matched.

Cheers Dan, so yours was pretty much same as mine then? Will be interesting to compare side by side at the weekend.

Tengocity · 03-08-2015, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by workshybum

Can't get to the car for measurements at the moment, but here's a picture. The low angle here makes it look higher than from the normal perspective, but it does ride quite high.

While I do like the look of a lowered car, I'd probably have problems getting it on my driveway if it was too much lower. The 10mm drop of the standard M Sport suspension makes things quite tight.

There also seems to be a direct correlation between how low my cars are and how much grief I get off the wife

Edit: Sorry should have specified in case it's not obvious. Completely Standard, Non Adaptive.

I would be very interested to hear your measurements as a standard non adaptive. The Bilstein set up I'm considering is stated to be a 30-50mm drop from standard, so your car is ideal baseline for me.

mcdokika · 03-08-2015, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tengocity

I would be very interested to hear your measurements as a standard non adaptive. The Bilstein set up I'm considering is stated to be a 30-50mm drop from standard, so your car is ideal baseline for me.

Mine is non adaptive too.

workshybum · 03-08-2015, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tengocity

Quote:

Originally Posted by workshybum

Can't get to the car for measurements at the moment, but here's a picture. The low angle here makes it look higher than from the normal perspective, but it does ride quite high.

While I do like the look of a lowered car, I'd probably have problems getting it on my driveway if it was too much lower. The 10mm drop of the standard M Sport suspension makes things quite tight.

There also seems to be a direct correlation between how low my cars are and how much grief I get off the wife

Edit: Sorry should have specified in case it's not obvious. Completely Standard, Non Adaptive.

I would be very interested to hear your measurements as a standard non adaptive. The Bilstein set up I'm considering is stated to be a 30-50mm drop from standard, so your car is ideal baseline for me.

It'll be tmrw evening or Tuesday now before I'll get chance to measure, but I'll do my best to get it done asap.

Tengocity · 03-08-2015, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by workshybum

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tengocity

Quote:

Originally Posted by workshybum

Can't get to the car for measurements at the moment, but here's a picture. The low angle here makes it look higher than from the normal perspective, but it does ride quite high.

While I do like the look of a lowered car, I'd probably have problems getting it on my driveway if it was too much lower. The 10mm drop of the standard M Sport suspension makes things quite tight.

There also seems to be a direct correlation between how low my cars are and how much grief I get off the wife

Edit: Sorry should have specified in case it's not obvious. Completely Standard, Non Adaptive.

I would be very interested to hear your measurements as a standard non adaptive. The Bilstein set up I'm considering is stated to be a 30-50mm drop from standard, so your car is ideal baseline for me.

It'll be tmrw evening or Tuesday now before I'll get chance to measure, but I'll do my best to get it done asap.

No desperate hurry, so don't put yourself out to get it!

Lorcan · 03-08-2015, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTP1980

I presume you are measuring to the arch above the tyre?
Interesting that, as per a visual inspection, that the front is riding considerably higher on ACS springs, which doesn't make sense as it's only the rear that will ever get loaded up and consequently further reduce the ride height. I wonder whether is a mistake? We need Lorcan....

This is more of a reflection on how large BMW made the front wheel arch than anything else. It does not mean the front is riding higher than the rear. The reduction in ride height from fitting ACS springs varies according to engine/body/drivetrain and many other factors. ACS optimize each spring kit to deliver the maximum possible improvements in handling, steering, traction and ride quality with aesthetics being a consideration but secondary to the above factors.

Tengocity · 03-08-2015, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcdokika

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tengocity

I would be very interested to hear your measurements as a standard non adaptive. The Bilstein set up I'm considering is stated to be a 30-50mm drop from standard, so your car is ideal baseline for me.

Mine is non adaptive too.

Tourer or saloon?

MarkG_M5Comp · 03-08-2015, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorcan

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTP1980

I presume you are measuring to the arch above the tyre?
Interesting that, as per a visual inspection, that the front is riding considerably higher on ACS springs, which doesn't make sense as it's only the rear that will ever get loaded up and consequently further reduce the ride height. I wonder whether is a mistake? We need Lorcan....

This is more of a reflection on how large BMW made the front wheel arch than anything else. It does not mean the front is riding higher than the rear. The reduction in ride height from fitting ACS springs varies according to engine/body/drivetrain and many other factors. ACS optimize each spring kit to deliver the maximum possible improvements in handling, steering, traction and ride quality with aesthetics being a consideration but secondary to the above factors.

I completely concur with this.

Had the same conversation with the tyre dealer last wee as he was saying it would be be nicer if the front were lower. I am convinced it's an optical illusion and the chassis is level.

We went outside and looked at an e90 and e46 - both had much larger front arch gaps!

teaston · 03-08-2015, 06:25 PM

BMW's have always had larger front arches, i wouldn't relate that to the chassis being higher at the front!

HighlandPete · 03-08-2015, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by teaston

BMW's have always had larger front arches, i wouldn't relate that to the chassis being higher at the front!

So true, users are not looking at the level of the chassis, but confused optically by the deeper front wheel arch. If the bottom of the sill is level front to rear, then there will be a larger arch gap at the front.

HighlandPete

jumperjohn · 03-08-2015, 06:43 PM

Hello.

Here is a comparison.

Rear wheel drive M Sport passive dampers and BMW springs:

Rear wheel drive M Sport passive dampers and AC Schnitzer springs:

The rear height looks the same as before but is around 10mm lower and the front has definitely dropped in line with the rear, the look is now vastly improved.

Also I have Eibach 12 mm spacers fitted to each wheel, you can see the difference, subtle but the stance is improved.

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jumperjohn First Lieutenant 114 Rep 383 Posts Drives: BMW M340i X-Drive Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Oxfordshire iTrader: (0)	Hello. Here is a comparison. Rear wheel drive M Sport passive dampers and BMW springs: Rear wheel drive M Sport passive dampers and AC Schnitzer springs: The rear height looks the same as before but is around 10mm lower and the front has definitely dropped in line with the rear, the look is now vastly improved. Also I have Eibach 12 mm spacers fitted to each wheel, you can see the difference, subtle but the stance is improved. Last edited by jumperjohn; 03-08-2015 at 06:47 PM.. Reason: Grammar, spelling etc
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