M Performance brakes and spacers fitted today

Tengocity · 03-13-2015, 09:58 AM

I already have the M Sport blue brakes so it was just the M Performance brake discs which have been fitted, along with new pads all round. I was supposed to get the braided brake hoses fitted, but they weren't long enough at the front to get round the big caliper, so this will need to wait.

Primary reason was aesthetic, as I just happen to think that grooved annd dimpled discs look much cooler! However I was hoping that the change would give the pedal a slightly sharper response at the top too. Otherwise I've had no issues with the brakes on hard driving.

Work was done by Lenny at Deutsche Tech, and so big thanks to him and Sam for being very friendly and helpful, and also in speaking to HEL about the brake line issue. I'd certainly recommend them to anyone else, and I will certainly be going back there for future work.

On the roads the car feels great, the brakes seem slightly more solid at the top so that's good.

Looks wise... I think they're great!

And the spacers have really helped too. I think the back of my car sits perfectly, but would love the front to be a tad lower, but the spacers and the brakes really give the car a bit of depth and interest in that area. Pics to follow.

Tengocity · 03-13-2015, 09:59 AM

Close up

Tengocity · 03-13-2015, 10:02 AM

Wheels on...

Tengocity · 03-13-2015, 10:03 AM

Spacers seem perfect and the stance looks perfect at the rear to me.

Tengocity · 03-13-2015, 10:06 AM

This pic is a maybe a bit better

Andrewthefirst · 03-13-2015, 10:11 AM

They do indeed look cool!

Stance looks very good, hard to tell the difference so will be comparing with mine later on.

You must be running out of things to buy for the car!

Tengocity · 03-13-2015, 10:16 AM

Just picked up the diffuser today, so checking out DTP1980's exhaust over the weekend to hear how the car sounds with the back box removed... so that will be next I think, maybe in the next few weeks.

And just sorted out a good price to get my scuffed bumper sorted and the M Perf side skirts fitted!

Oh, and then later today I'm going to fit the 442 wheels!

Then after that it only leaves the further suspension work to do - ARB's and then coilovers/Birds/RS ACS

And then I'm done...

workshybum · 03-13-2015, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tengocity

And then I'm done...

We'll see!

Looks good, keep us posted if you notice any performance benefits of the discs.

Tengocity · 03-13-2015, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by workshybum

We'll see!

Looks good, keep us posted if you notice any performance benefits of the discs.

Seriously, once I've done that then there really isn't anything else left to do!

Unless... the LCI comes out and has a much sturdier central console made with more robust plastics, in which case I would retrofit one of them.

nordberg · 03-13-2015, 11:20 AM

Looks great. How thick are the spacers?

Tengocity · 03-13-2015, 11:21 AM

15mm at rear and 12mm at front. Exact same specs as most others on here have gone for.

335dMSport+ · 03-13-2015, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Tengocity

This pic is a maybe a bit better

The picture is ruined somewhat by your face in the reflection though Terry

Tengocity · 03-13-2015, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by AlpineWhiteF30MSport

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Originally Posted by Tengocity

This pic is a maybe a bit better

The picture is ruined somewhat by your face in the reflection though Terry

I never said why I thought it was better!

335dMSport+ · 03-13-2015, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Tengocity

I never said why I thought it was better!

I better be careful, you don't live too far from me.....

NISFAN · 03-13-2015, 01:10 PM

Looking good Terry

Did you go for the M Performance pads, or are they the same anyway?

Did the spacers come with longer bolts?

Tengocity · 03-13-2015, 01:13 PM

From what I can tell the front pads are the M Sport ones, and the rears are the M Performance ones. My dad got them for me and his parts guy said that is all that was available through BMW UK. Could be that he's wrong but I've fitted them for just now. They do feel a bit crisper though, but I suspect that's more to do with the fluid change and bleeding them than the new discs.

Went for the stud conversion kit with the spacers to make life easier when swapping wheels etc.

jumperjohn · 03-13-2015, 01:26 PM

Looks really lovely. I didn't think that spacers would make so much difference but they do, looks great.
I wonder why your arch gap is larger at the front than mine, adaptive shocks?

Tengocity · 03-13-2015, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jumperjohn

Looks really lovely. I didn't think that spacers would make so much difference but they do, looks great.
I wonder why your arch gap is larger at the front than mine, adaptive shocks?

Yes, amazing what an extra 15mm does.

I really have no idea if my front sits higher than other folks 335d's... really need to see it alongside someone else's 335d.

mcdokika · 03-13-2015, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tengocity

I already have the M Sport blue brakes so it was just the M Performance brake discs which have been fitted, along with new pads all round. I was supposed to get the braided brake hoses fitted, but they weren't long enough at the front to get round the big caliper, so this will need to wait.
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I seeeee. So you have combined M Perf brakes with M Sport calipers !!

Why you did not change calipers as well ?

Tengocity · 03-13-2015, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mcdokika

Why you did not change calipers as well ?

Because they are the same calipers, it's just that the M Performance ones come in different colours. So for me it would be a complete waste of money, or even more so than replacing discs that didn't need replaced yet!

workshybum · 03-13-2015, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mcdokika

I seeeee. So you have combined M Perf brakes with M Sport calipers !!

Why you did not change calipers as well ?

mcdokika

k44ENT posted this link in a thread earlier. It's a very informative site and tells the differences between the different brakes.

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/t-br...fferences.aspx

Tengocity The M Sport brake pads apparently give more bite than the M performance pads so this may contribute to why they feel crisper too. It is all very confusing because seemingly, when you get the M Sport Plus brake upgrade, it appears they are M performance calipers, with M Performance pads, the only difference being blank rather than slotted discs.

mcdokika · 03-13-2015, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by workshybum

mcdokika

k44ENT posted this link in a thread earlier. It's a very informative site and tells the differences between the different brakes.

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/t-br...fferences.aspx

Tengocity The M Sport brake pads apparently give more bite than the M performance pads so this may contribute to why they feel crisper too. It is all very confusing because seemingly, when you get the M Sport Plus brake upgrade, it appears they are M performance calipers, with M Performance pads, the only difference being blank rather than slotted discs.

It the other topic M Sport brake users were complaining about it indeed..So God knows now which is better. By the wy they are both probably better than normal brakes.

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Tengocity General 8567 Rep 19,982 Posts Drives: 911, Cayenne Turbo, Disco 4 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Crieff, Perthshire, Scotland iTrader: (0)	M Performance brakes and spacers fitted today I already have the M Sport blue brakes so it was just the M Performance brake discs which have been fitted, along with new pads all round. I was supposed to get the braided brake hoses fitted, but they weren't long enough at the front to get round the big caliper, so this will need to wait. Primary reason was aesthetic, as I just happen to think that grooved annd dimpled discs look much cooler! However I was hoping that the change would give the pedal a slightly sharper response at the top too. Otherwise I've had no issues with the brakes on hard driving. Work was done by Lenny at Deutsche Tech, and so big thanks to him and Sam for being very friendly and helpful, and also in speaking to HEL about the brake line issue. I'd certainly recommend them to anyone else, and I will certainly be going back there for future work. On the roads the car feels great, the brakes seem slightly more solid at the top so that's good. Looks wise... I think they're great! And the spacers have really helped too. I think the back of my car sits perfectly, but would love the front to be a tad lower, but the spacers and the brakes really give the car a bit of depth and interest in that area. Pics to follow. __________________ Current: Porsche 911 991 C4S, Porsche Cayenne Turbo, Land Rover Discovery 4. Gone...G01 X3 M40i, Cayman S 987, F31 340i, Cayman GT4, F82 M4 CP, Lotus Exige V6, G20 330e, F30 330e, Boxster S 987, F31 335d, Mini Cooper SD, E89 Z4, E90 330d 320d, E60 520d, E46 330d 320d, MX5s, E30 325i
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Tengocity General 8567 Rep 19,982 Posts Drives: 911, Cayenne Turbo, Disco 4 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Crieff, Perthshire, Scotland iTrader: (0)	Just picked up the diffuser today, so checking out DTP1980's exhaust over the weekend to hear how the car sounds with the back box removed... so that will be next I think, maybe in the next few weeks. And just sorted out a good price to get my scuffed bumper sorted and the M Perf side skirts fitted! Oh, and then later today I'm going to fit the 442 wheels! Then after that it only leaves the further suspension work to do - ARB's and then coilovers/Birds/RS ACS And then I'm done... __________________ Current: Porsche 911 991 C4S, Porsche Cayenne Turbo, Land Rover Discovery 4. Gone...G01 X3 M40i, Cayman S 987, F31 340i, Cayman GT4, F82 M4 CP, Lotus Exige V6, G20 330e, F30 330e, Boxster S 987, F31 335d, Mini Cooper SD, E89 Z4, E90 330d 320d, E60 520d, E46 330d 320d, MX5s, E30 325i
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Tengocity General 8567 Rep 19,982 Posts Drives: 911, Cayenne Turbo, Disco 4 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Crieff, Perthshire, Scotland iTrader: (0)	15mm at rear and 12mm at front. Exact same specs as most others on here have gone for. __________________ Current: Porsche 911 991 C4S, Porsche Cayenne Turbo, Land Rover Discovery 4. Gone...G01 X3 M40i, Cayman S 987, F31 340i, Cayman GT4, F82 M4 CP, Lotus Exige V6, G20 330e, F30 330e, Boxster S 987, F31 335d, Mini Cooper SD, E89 Z4, E90 330d 320d, E60 520d, E46 330d 320d, MX5s, E30 325i
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Tengocity General 8567 Rep 19,982 Posts Drives: 911, Cayenne Turbo, Disco 4 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Crieff, Perthshire, Scotland iTrader: (0)	From what I can tell the front pads are the M Sport ones, and the rears are the M Performance ones. My dad got them for me and his parts guy said that is all that was available through BMW UK. Could be that he's wrong but I've fitted them for just now. They do feel a bit crisper though, but I suspect that's more to do with the fluid change and bleeding them than the new discs. Went for the stud conversion kit with the spacers to make life easier when swapping wheels etc. __________________ Current: Porsche 911 991 C4S, Porsche Cayenne Turbo, Land Rover Discovery 4. Gone...G01 X3 M40i, Cayman S 987, F31 340i, Cayman GT4, F82 M4 CP, Lotus Exige V6, G20 330e, F30 330e, Boxster S 987, F31 335d, Mini Cooper SD, E89 Z4, E90 330d 320d, E60 520d, E46 330d 320d, MX5s, E30 325i
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