[BimmerMat135]

Hello to all!

I would like to use this topic to show Dinan that there is demand for a 328d power kit. I've been contacting them couple time but it seem unlikely that we will ever see a power kit for the 28d. It seem like that the north american 328d share many parts with the euro 325d. So we can expect that this level of power should be easily attainable. The only restriction I see is the torque rating of the ZF8 (450nm). Who would be interested buying a dinan power kit for their 328d if the final product is within the usual 1499-1999$usd range?

[desolatax]

I'd definitely be interested if they can help the turbo lag at all on my 2014 328d xdrive here in Caanda.
I definitely want to keep engine warranty as I'm done dealing with out of warranty BMWs after my E90.

[Googone20]

I would be down. I am blown away with the recently popularity of diesels, that we haven't seen really any aftermarket support from any vendor. What about Evolve or Burger?

[hlc1213]

Originally Posted by Googone20

I would be down. I am blown away with the recently popularity of diesels, that we haven't seen really any aftermarket support from any vendor. What about Evolve or Burger?

I believe Evolve does have a power module available for 328d. http://www.evolveautomotive.com/328d...gine-ecu_1190/ I'm kind of new to the tuning world, is evolve considered a more reputable company? I was considering their product but I couldn't find many reviews online. The most popular product for 328d seems to be Racechip.


That said, I would be interested in a Dinan power kit.

[tomsab0]

Why don't take the power kit which is offered by BMW?

[hlc1213]

Originally Posted by tomsab0

Why don't take the power kit which is offered by BMW?

Unfortunately it's not offered in North America...

[desolatax]

I emailed Dinan and got this response.

"We have been told we would start development on diesel applications this year but I have yet to see a diesel vehicle come into the shop for development to get started.

At best if development started tomorrow the earliest we could potentially release a product for diesels would be perhaps in 6 months if not more then that."

[BimmerMat135]

I had a similar answer from Dinan as well. Just hope they will develop a kit. 215hp/332ft-lbs would be a good start.

[hlc1213]

Originally Posted by hlc1213

I believe Evolve does have a power module available for 328d. http://www.evolveautomotive.com/328d...gine-ecu_1190/

Update to my previous post about Evolve. It turns out their 328d module is not compatible with US cars..

I got this response from them:

"HI

Thanks for your email.

The module does not work on the US cars at present."

***Update***

I followed up on whether it'll be something available in the future. They responded:

"Yes we hope so in a the next coming months.

Many thanks"

[BimmerSmith]

Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

Hello to all!

I would like to use this topic to show Dinan that there is demand for a 328d power kit. I've been contacting them couple time but it seem unlikely that we will ever see a power kit for the 28d. It seem like that the north american 328d share many parts with the euro 325d. So we can expect that this level of power should be easily attainable. The only restriction I see is the torque rating of the ZF8 (450nm). Who would be interested buying a dinan power kit for their 328d if the final product is within the usual 1499-1999$usd range?

I think a Dinan or BMW power kit would be a popular mod for the 328d. The turbo lag on the car isn't terrible but noticeable. I expect a ppk would help here., Extra hp wouldn't hurt either. Getting a dialog going on the forums is a good start!!

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Yesterday the Dinan Rep told the NJ BMW CCA members at Circle BMW that Dinan was going to focus efforts on a whole line of engine mods for diesels.

[BimmerMat135]

Originally Posted by glennQNYC

Yesterday the Dinan Rep told the NJ BMW CCA members at Circle BMW that Dinan was going to focus efforts on a whole line of engine mods for diesels.

Sound good Thanks for your input!

[desolatax]

Originally Posted by glennQNYC

Yesterday the Dinan Rep told the NJ BMW CCA members at Circle BMW that Dinan was going to focus efforts on a whole line of engine mods for diesels.

Good to hear

[r33_RGSport]

Have you guys ever considered RaceChip Ultimate? They have it for N47 motor and I have them in stock.

[floydarogers]

Originally Posted by r33_RGSport

Have you guys ever considered RaceChip Ultimate? They have it for N47 motor and I have them in stock.

Many people like the surety of Dinan's warranty service. Additionally, they have substantial local support in all the US, and offer a full range of services beyond motor tuning.

Probably an oversight, but you haven't posted in the main thread discussing racechip (http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=960658), where people have asked about problems/reliability/etc.

[r33_RGSport]

Originally Posted by floydarogers

Many people like the surety of Dinan's warranty service. Additionally, they have substantial local support in all the US, and offer a full range of services beyond motor tuning.

Probably an oversight, but you haven't posted in the main thread discussing racechip (http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=960658), where people have asked about problems/reliability/etc.

Great to know that.
Thank you reminding that thread. I saw that thread and didn't contribute in there since it is has been answered with the fellow RaceChip users.

[Thumper333]

Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

I had a similar answer from Dinan as well. Just hope they will develop a kit. 215hp/332ft-lbs would be a good start.

When I contacted them about getting the Shockware installed (they don't list it for the diesels and my dealer didn't want to try it without Dinan saying it would work) I asked them about when they would have a Stage 2 tune available LOL. I offered my car as a test vehicle for the Stage 1 if they developed one and definitely put the bug in their ear that there is interest.

For $1400 they better milk more than 215/330 out of it, I am getting that with just a piggyback right now. I'd hope to see at least 240hp/380ft-lbs out of a true tune adaption. That is if the transmission can handle it.

Posting a review on my Chipwerke piggyback now.

[BimmerMat135]

Originally Posted by Thumper333

When I contacted them about getting the Shockware installed (they don't list it for the diesels and my dealer didn't want to try it without Dinan saying it would work) I asked them about when they would have a Stage 2 tune available LOL. I offered my car as a test vehicle for the Stage 1 if they developed one and definitely put the bug in their ear that there is interest.

For $1400 they better milk more than 215/330 out of it, I am getting that with just a piggyback right now. I'd hope to see at least 240hp/380ft-lbs out of a true tune adaption. That is if the transmission can handle it.

Posting a review on my Chipwerke piggyback now.

Thanks for your input. Any 1/4 mile times for comparaison?

[Thumper333]

Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

Thanks for your input. Any 1/4 mile times for comparaison?

Here's my thread.

No 1/4 mile times, not really my thing, more of a roadcourse guy. I did some 0-60s but will have to re-run them as I explain in that thread.

[stevehecht]

Originally Posted by Thumper333

When I contacted them about getting the Shockware installed (they don't list it for the diesels and my dealer didn't want to try it without Dinan saying it would work) I asked them about when they would have a Stage 2 tune available LOL. I offered my car as a test vehicle for the Stage 1 if they developed one and definitely put the bug in their ear that there is interest.

For $1400 they better milk more than 215/330 out of it, I am getting that with just a piggyback right now. I'd hope to see at least 240hp/380ft-lbs out of a true tune adaption. That is if the transmission can handle it.

Posting a review on my Chipwerke piggyback now.

Thumper,

You're not paying top dollar for top hp and ft-lbs numbers. You're paying for Dinan testing, reliablity, and (especially) the warranty. If you just want numbers, stick with ChipWerke.

[Thumper333]

Originally Posted by stevehecht

Thumper,

You're not paying top dollar for top hp and ft-lbs numbers. You're paying for Dinan testing, reliablity, and (especially) the warranty. If you just want numbers, stick with ChipWerke.

I am well aware of the costs and benefits in the tune market. LOL Heck, APR wants $1800 for an S4 tune....and that's with NO warranty. They also stated that they full on purposefully detonated a 3.0T designing their supercharger kit they are working on. Yeah, tune makers have R&D costs. The issue is a true tune should get MORE not less than a plug in piggyback. The tune has access to the entire ECU suite of controls and settings and can make more fine refinements and tweaks.

A piggyback should cost less and deliver less as there is only so much it can do. The benefit there is saving money if the full tune is out of the range for that person and at least partial protection of the warranty from being able to remove it. When the tune is more expensive (by a factor of 5), offers less increase (or the same) and it's silver bullet is 99% warranty coverage instead of 95% it begs the question.....why?

It's not about "just numbers", it's about comparison shopping and cost basis analysis. Chipwerke's reliability is there with many in the Audi world seeing them as an alternative to the vastly more expensive tunes and having been installed in dozens and dozens of cars for over a year. With data logged testing and trials with nearly all settings available. They aren't some fly by night flash in the pan upstart with no data or customer testing.

My comment stands, Dinan offers some advantages over a piggyback not all of which is (but at least some of which should be) higher numbers. The benefits just have to equal the price difference.

[stevehecht]

Good response, Thumper. Sorry for my harsh tone. I'd like to see your review of the ChipWerke PB. Could you repost it here, or send a link?

I'd only say that, comparing the price and hp/ft-lbs numbers of the Dinan tune to a Steinbauer tuning module (aka piggyback) they're the same. But Dinan offers the warranty on top of the numbers. And a tune will be kinder to your engine components overall. I'm not familiar with ChipWerke so I'd like to learn.

OTOH, there was a dyno comparo in the UK with bimmer diesels where the EcoTune came out way ahead of the Steinbauer, ACS, etc. for (what I think) was 50% of the price of the Steinbauer and 25% of the Schnitzer:

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...highlight=road

Here's the summary table:



None of those cars are the 320/328d but the percentages are still valid.