MT Cruising....then shifting into gear

Tommy420 · 02-05-2008, 09:53 PM

Had a question thought you guys could help me out with. In the mornings when I get on the freeway, once I gain my speed, I usually shift to N and let the car cruise...but I've noticed that when I want to put the car back in gear going at that speed, no matter what gear I try to put it into, it somewhat won't let me. I mean there's definite resistance, and I have to push it in. Is this normal?

Taittinger · 02-05-2008, 09:56 PM

What is the advantage of going to neutral? How does it affect the transmission?

!Xoible · 02-05-2008, 09:56 PM

normal. Give it gas right before you depress the clutch. just a small blip to bump up the RPM's. on a side note, dont force it in.

!Xoible · 02-05-2008, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Taittinger

What is the advantage of going to neutral? How does it affect the transmission?

makes me feel like im saving gas. altho im not

!Xoible · 02-05-2008, 09:57 PM

but yah, it's a bad habit, try to be in gear at all times if you can

BK · 02-05-2008, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mantis

but yah, it's a bad habit, try to be in gear at all times if you can

+1 Don't float around in neutral on the highway. It ain't right.

omg516 · 02-05-2008, 10:32 PM

Definitely incorrect practice...

AndreyATC · 02-05-2008, 10:36 PM

Regardles of the situation, it should go into any high gears (3,4,5,6th) without any force

!Xoible · 02-05-2008, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AndreyATC

Regardles of the situation, it should go into any high gears (3,4,5,6th) without any force

well... if his in neutral RPM's should be less than 1k, if he goes into gear they will jump to 1500-2500 depending what gear, what speed, etc. right?

BMdblU · 02-05-2008, 10:47 PM

That's whack. Just use 6th and cruise. Getting into a bad situation and being caught in neutral wouldn't be nice

NPDAN · 02-05-2008, 10:50 PM

Not too safe... Imagine if you had to react to something.

GMWNashville · 02-05-2008, 10:53 PM

yea keep it in gear...you will save more gas actually since your injectors are shut off when you arent accel. and they arent deactivated at idle haha

Tommy420 · 02-05-2008, 11:17 PM

Got it...no more neutral on the highway...didn't know it was bad practice. My bad

GMWNashville · 02-06-2008, 06:56 AM

haha all good...

achien · 02-06-2008, 07:11 AM

Depending on which gear you want to shift to, you need to 'blip' the throttle to a certain RPM. Otherwise, it will put a lot of wear & tear on your clutch.

BTW, you shouldn't get any resistance if you put it back in 5th or 6th gear.

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Originally Posted by Tommy420

Had a question thought you guys could help me out with. In the mornings when I get on the freeway, once I gain my speed, I usually shift to N and let the car cruise...but I've noticed that when I want to put the car back in gear going at that speed, no matter what gear I try to put it into, it somewhat won't let me. I mean there's definite resistance, and I have to push it in. Is this normal?

nagge · 02-06-2008, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by volkswackin

yea keep it in gear...you will save more gas actually since your injectors are shut off when you arent accel. and they arent deactivated at idle haha

Not entirely true, when engine braking the fuel consumption is zero. When just cruising i.e. not accelerating you are consuming fuel.

thealbert · 02-06-2008, 07:58 AM

wow! don't do that! always keep your car in gear. its not safe to leave it out of gear when you're driving...ESPECIALLY on the highway. you never know when you might encounter a hazard on the road and when you do, you won't have enough time to put your car in gear, and its bad to have the car in neutral when you suddenly need to turn and avoid a hazard. You won't be getting any power to your tires and therefore you won't be able to control and handle the car properly. Even if you think you'll be saving gas, and it might, i honestly don't know, but its just not worth the risk!

BoostedBMW · 02-06-2008, 08:08 AM

Yeah, that is definitely a bad habit, and you are NOT saving any gas so just stop doing that please.

When you cruise in neutral and you think you aren't using any gas (which it still is using gas, but even if there was less being consumed), what happens when you need to constantly blip the throttle to put the car back into gear and accellerate again so you can put it back into neutral and cruise. Its retarded to do this IMO.

Mantis, when you are putting the car back into gear you should depress the clutch and then blip the throttle as you are letting the clutch back out, right before the engagement point. Also, it doesn't have to be limited to 2500rpm... if you are doing 45mph and drop the car into 2nd you would have to blip the throttle much higher. Like you said though, it just depends on the gear and speed you are going.

BoostedBMW · 02-06-2008, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by nagge

Not entirely true, when engine braking the fuel consumption is zero. When just cruising i.e. not accelerating you are consuming fuel.

Well, in any case, comparing the fuel consumption when cruising in gear vs. being in neutral, it doesn't make any sense to me to keep it in neutral. I really don't think you would save anything.

Couch · 02-06-2008, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BMdblU

That's whack. Just use 6th and cruise. Getting into a bad situation and being caught in neutral wouldn't be nice

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Originally Posted by NPDAN

Not too safe... Imagine if you had to react to something.

+1

I didn't realize common sense was lacking so much on the forums.

Arustik1 · 02-06-2008, 08:52 AM

With experience....I noticed that I only began shifting into N once I knew that I would be coming to a stop ahead.

Paddy · 02-06-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy420

Got it...no more neutral on the highway...didn't know it was bad practice. My bad

Friend of mine used to drop into neutral while taking corners. Verrrrry bad practice.

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BMdblU Brigadier General 152 Rep 3,983 Posts Drives: F80 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Toronto iTrader: (2)	That's whack. Just use 6th and cruise. Getting into a bad situation and being caught in neutral wouldn't be nice
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GMWNashville Colonel 172 Rep 2,373 Posts Drives: 19 G05, 16 F80, 10 E70x5D Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nashville, TN iTrader: (2)	yea keep it in gear...you will save more gas actually since your injectors are shut off when you arent accel. and they arent deactivated at idle haha
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Tommy420 peace.love.health.happine ss 47 Rep 631 Posts Drives: 2008 335i e92 Montego/Blk lthr Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	Got it...no more neutral on the highway...didn't know it was bad practice. My bad __________________ 2008 335i e92 Montego blue/black leather, alum brush trim, MT, ZSP, ZPP, nav, ipod/usb, sirius, alum brush e-brake, alum pedals, 35% Madico For pics of my ride, go to www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108628
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thealbert Lieutenant 32 Rep 420 Posts Drives: G20 M340i xDrive Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Home Sweet Home iTrader: (0)	wow! don't do that! always keep your car in gear. its not safe to leave it out of gear when you're driving...ESPECIALLY on the highway. you never know when you might encounter a hazard on the road and when you do, you won't have enough time to put your car in gear, and its bad to have the car in neutral when you suddenly need to turn and avoid a hazard. You won't be getting any power to your tires and therefore you won't be able to control and handle the car properly. Even if you think you'll be saving gas, and it might, i honestly don't know, but its just not worth the risk!
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BoostedBMW Moderator 133 Rep 6,775 Posts Drives: TiAg E92 335 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (14) Garage List 2003 S2000 [0.00]	Yeah, that is definitely a bad habit, and you are NOT saving any gas so just stop doing that please. When you cruise in neutral and you think you aren't using any gas (which it still is using gas, but even if there was less being consumed), what happens when you need to constantly blip the throttle to put the car back into gear and accellerate again so you can put it back into neutral and cruise. Its retarded to do this IMO. Mantis, when you are putting the car back into gear you should depress the clutch and then blip the throttle as you are letting the clutch back out, right before the engagement point. Also, it doesn't have to be limited to 2500rpm... if you are doing 45mph and drop the car into 2nd you would have to blip the throttle much higher. Like you said though, it just depends on the gear and speed you are going. __________________ -Michael. Berlina Black S2000 CR is now in the garage l 19" Rial Daytona Race l KW V2 l Eisenhaus Race Exhaust l
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