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      05-10-2015, 02:05 PM   #1
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Why did I buy a manual

Hi all,

On 21st March 2015 I bought my self a 320d sport (manual, 497 alloys, sun protection glass and black wing mirrors) so pretty much simple.

I love every bit of it. After joining this forum I told my self "why did I not go for few more options or even m sport".

However, this morning I drove my mates 320d auto m sport and fell in love with his car. I have driven autos before but f30 felt so nice as an auto.

Now the question is, how much money will I loose if I part ex mine with another auto? It is going to be a silly thought? Will the massive discount on the outgoing model make any difference?

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      05-10-2015, 02:23 PM   #2
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Hi all,

On 21st March 2015 I bought my self a 320d sport (manual, 497 alloys, sun protection glass and black wing mirrors) so pretty much simple.

I love every bit of it. After joining this forum I told my self "why did I not go for few more options or even m sport".

However, this morning I drove my mates 320d auto m sport and fell in love with his car. I have driven autos before but f30 felt so nice as an auto.

Now the question is, how much money will I loose if I part ex mine with another auto? It is going to be a silly thought? Will the massive discount on the outgoing model make any difference?

Cheers
Saurabh
Depends on how much you paid and the discount you got.

On plus side the new LCI is out with a better 2l engine and ZF8 gearbox.

Have a look on the BMW website for your model - trade will be 2-3k less. If you go for a pre-LCI discounted the loss shouldn't too bad.

Berry Heathrow have whole bunch of nearly new models they are trying to shift.
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I recently changed from a 320d Sport manual to a 320d M Sport with Sports auto, This is my first auto and i have to say as most already know the auto is brilliant and i wouldn't be buy a manual again any to soon, In my opinion Bmw manuals are terrible, I've had a manual gearbox in E87, 2 E90's, F10 and F30 and they were all the same, Notchy/clunky gearbox, Pedal's are offset to the right, Most have clutch judder, Fairly heavy clutch pedal you get a leg workout just sitting in traffic
I still drive a manual on a daily basis as i have a Navara work vehicle but that just makes me appreciate the auto even more when i drive it.
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Depends on how much you paid and the discount you got.

On plus side the new LCI is out with a better 2l engine and ZF8 gearbox.

Have a look on the BMW website for your model - trade will be 2-3k less. If you go for a pre-LCI discounted the loss shouldn't too bad.

Berry Heathrow have whole bunch of nearly new models they are trying to shift.

I did get a good discount, I paid around £23500 (RRP 30,900). Let me call few dealers and see what they have to say about it.
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Depends on how much you paid and the discount you got.

On plus side the new LCI is out with a better 2l engine and ZF8 gearbox.

Have a look on the BMW website for your model - trade will be 2-3k less. If you go for a pre-LCI discounted the loss shouldn't too bad.

Berry Heathrow have whole bunch of nearly new models they are trying to shift.

Cheers mate, any point of contact at Berry Heathrow?
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Just on a side note.... The 3.0 6 pots are even more sublime with the 8AT.

It's worth asking what the damage would be for an auto and some extra cylinders
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Gotta say id like an auto although i haven't even driven one lol, just like the idea of less work

Id imagine you'd prob lose a couple of grand but might be lucky, have you tried confused valuation?

http://www.confused.com/car-valuation
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I lost £7k when I changed my month old 335d
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As above, if you are thinking about changing, why not get an engine upgrade and look at the 6 cylinders. If your mate's that you tried was a 6 cylinder, then I think you'd be wanting one as well as the auto.
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Cheers mate, any point of contact at Berry Heathrow?
The two guys I have used are:

Philippe Lazere philippe.lazere@berry.bmw-net.co.uk
Tony Lewis tony.lewis@berry.bmw-net.co.uk

Berry BMW Heathrow
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The two guys I have used are:

Philippe Lazere philippe.lazere@berry.bmw-net.co.uk
Tony Lewis tony.lewis@berry.bmw-net.co.uk

Berry BMW Heathrow
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Tel: 01895 433999
Fax: 01895 431519
www.berrybmwheathrow.co.uk
Cheers mate. Let me call them..
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Cheers mate. Let me call them..
Cough ....330d Sdrive - cough..
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Cough ....330d Sdrive - cough..
What are the discounts like on 330d auto?
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BMW make some incredible autos, their manuals aren't too bad but nothing great. VAG still have one of the slickest and smoothest manuals in my opinion.

My advice to you is to wait it out (18-24months)! Otherwise, you will get into a never ending cycle of wanting more and more options then mods and when will enough ever be enough? It will become a never ending cycle.
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I'd never buy a manual daily driver ever again. Modern autos are generally massively better than the manual in every way, mpg, co2 and that includes DSG cars.....
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Hi all,

Called couple of dealers today;

Spire Watford - Asked for Riaz (as per recommendation) and was told that he will phone back. After an hour the receptionist phoned to say that Riaz is too busy and he cant phone you so if you want you could e mail him the query and he shall reply. I then insisted for a call back and I was promised a call back within 2 hours however no response. I found it so strange as is this how they want to do business. If I want to give them my £40K then I would want them to talk to me not just keep ignoring.

Cotswolds BMW - part ex value - £21K and on a new 330d m sport pro nav, metallic paint, red leather and sport + pack they are just offering me 15% discount which is not good.
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Hi all,

Called couple of dealers today;

Spire Watford - Asked for Riaz (as per recommendation) and was told that he will phone back. After an hour the receptionist phoned to say that Riaz is too busy and he cant phone you so if you want you could e mail him the query and he shall reply. I then insisted for a call back and I was promised a call back within 2 hours however no response. I found it so strange as is this how they want to do business. If I want to give them my £40K then I would want them to talk to me not just keep ignoring.

Cotswolds BMW - part ex value - £21K and on a new 330d m sport pro nav, metallic paint, red leather and sport + pack they are just offering me 15% discount which is not good.
To be fair to Riaz, if he has a customer with him, or is doing a handover, these things can take time, so to not call back within a couple of hours could be entirely justifiable.
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To be fair to Riaz, if he has a customer with him, or is doing a handover, these things can take time, so to not call back within a couple of hours could be entirely justifiable.
I completely understand that handover or customers can take time however I did phone him few weeks ago and today they told me that he forgot to call you back but today we'll make sure he calls you.

Never mind, I shall wait for his call tomorrow.
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What are the discounts like on 330d auto?
I've ordered mine(the 3rd one in 12months) 2weeks ago got over 9k discount and a very reasonable part ex on my current 5months old car. You should be able to get decent discount if you try hard enough.
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I've ordered mine(the 3rd one in 12months) 2weeks ago got over 9k discount and a very reasonable part ex on my current 5months old car. You should be able to get decent discount if you try hard enough.
Cheers Saby, where did you get yours from?
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I've ordered mine(the 3rd one in 12months) 2weeks ago got over 9k discount and a very reasonable part ex on my current 5months old car. You should be able to get decent discount if you try hard enough.
Thats an awesome deal!
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