[DaveH28]

Not been on here for while,

I have a 63plate 330d f31. Still happy with it now, so smooth and responsive.
It currently has just over 34000 miles on so nicely run in now

Well I had one of those too good to be true letters off my local dealer today so decided to go and have a look....

He let me have a good drive in 335d saloon, so I got in and thought this should feel noticeably more responsive than mine.

I did about 25 miles on all types of roads, motorways etc.

My thoughts were, it just didn't feel as responsive as mine, the steering felt slightly lighter, I must admit though the sound was better I don't know if this is because it's 335d or changes due to model year.
Not so sure about the x drive, it grips great, but just not quite as much feel, I suspect if i didn't already have mine I would have blown away.

The main thing though for me is the response, mine still gives me a throw you back in your seat feel, this just didn't in the same way, I didn't believe it was all just down to mine being run in, it always felt smooth and responsive.

On another note.....there. Was 640d gran coupe with some great extras, and the deal was amazing, still too much for me but an amazing car for the money.

[F30Andy]

Was it an accompanied test drive?

Were you able to properly kick the shit out of it?

How different in spec was it to yours?

[DaveH28]

It was accompanied, but it was the same salesperson who sold me mine....and he wanted me to drive it.
I did give it some, it sounded a lot gruffer, but in a good way, quite surprising actually... Closest to a petrol I've heard a diesel sound. Mine isn't as loud in the cabin.

The spec was above mine, it was well loaded, HUD, msport+, sunroof, prof nav.
Mines a good spec though.

Top and bottom, it didn't impress me enough to want to jump out of mine and into that. The deal probably is quite good but think I'll be waiting for the facelift and more deals.

[Nick the Greek]

Its a diesel.

Say no more.....

[Tengocity]

I don't think the extra power makes a difference till you're above 80 and want to accelerate hard still!

[tjlees]

Originally Posted by DaveH28

Not been on here for while,

I have a 63plate 330d f31. Still happy with it now, so smooth and responsive.
It currently has just over 34000 miles on so nicely run in now

Well I had one of those too good to be true letters off my local dealer today so decided to go and have a look....

He let me have a good drive in 335d saloon, so I got in and thought this should feel noticeably more responsive than mine.

I did about 25 miles on all types of roads, motorways etc.

My thoughts were, it just didn't feel as responsive as mine, the steering felt slightly lighter, I must admit though the sound was better I don't know if this is because it's 335d or changes due to model year.
Not so sure about the x drive, it grips great, but just not quite as much feel, I suspect if i didn't already have mine I would have blown away.

The main thing though for me is the response, mine still gives me a throw you back in your seat feel, this just didn't in the same way, I didn't believe it was all just down to mine being run in, it always felt smooth and responsive.

On another note.....there. Was 640d gran coupe with some great extras, and the deal was amazing, still too much for me but an amazing car for the money.

Awesome sound is because of the ASD module. I know it's totally fake on bothe the 335i and 335d but it's brill!

Mileage makes a significant difference for me - at 11k the power is much better. Additionally now that I am back on the 19s the turn in, feedback and feel is better.

If anything the grip should be slighty worse on an xdrive due to extra weight. AWD just gives you extra traction in the wet/snow/grass and at the lights

I wouldn't call the steering overly light in sport mode, but it's definitely light in comfort/Eco pro.

The 640d is a very good alternative!

[DaveH28]

Originally Posted by tjlees

Awesome sound is because of the ASD module. I know it's totally fake on bothe the 335i and 335d but it's brill!

Mileage makes a significant difference for me - at 11k the power is much better. Additionally now that I am back on the 19s the turn in, feedback and feel is better.

If anything the grip should be slighty worse on an xdrive due to extra weight. AWD just gives you extra traction in the wet/snow/grass and at the lights

I wouldn't call the steering overly light in sport mode, but it's definitely light in comfort/Eco pro.

The 640d is a very good alternative!

When I was up at 80+ on the private road, I could feel it there, it was more the response in normal driving....
I put it in sport mode, and yes the steering is heavier, I suspect I'd get used to that. It was dry, but I could feel where the traction control would sort me out in mine.... This gripped.

Don't get me wrong, it's an awesome car.... Just that I guess I already have an awesome car and expected to be blown away a bit more.
I didnt know the 335d had an actuator, it sounds great....although in a sensibly fast way I do like the smoothness of my diesel estate haha

Oh, the 640d was beautiful....gran coupe aswell. Napa red leather. 20k off and 0% finance...but still a bit too much for me.

[335i nthehouse]

Originally Posted by tjlees

Awesome sound is because of the ASD module. I know it's totally fake on bothe the 335i and 335d but it's brill!

I beg to differ, it isn't totally fake on the 335i. Come and stand behind my car and tell me it is a symposer. I got someone to rev it the other day while I stood outside.

People have checked for the part IIRC and it isn't there.

If I open my windows and give it welly through a tunnel, there is real noise. And I can't pass through a tunnel without doing this, even coming to a halt first if no traffic!

[rocketretro]

Originally Posted by 335i nthehouse

I beg to differ, it isn't totally fake on the 335i. Come and stand behind my car and tell me it is a symposer. I got someone to rev it the other day while I stood outside.

People have checked for the part IIRC and it isn't there.

If I open my windows and give it welly through a tunnel, there is real noise. And I can't pass through a tunnel without doing this, even coming to a halt first if no traffic!

You saddo I've done exactly the same! Hindhead tunnel cough cough it's totally intoxicating.. Did the Somport tunnel in Northern Spain, best 5 miles of my life, no other vehicles in the tunnel.

[Kal101]

Originally Posted by 335i nthehouse

If I open my windows and give it welly through a tunnel, there is real noise. And I can't pass through a tunnel without doing this, even coming to a halt first if no traffic!

Like your style

Op think you might not have noticed too much of a difference as your coming from a relatively powerful car anyway. I guess the xdrive weight must lessen the difference as well.

Me I came from a 320d sport and really felt the difference in power and handling- on ACS springs.

Have got past the running in period at 2k miles and am loving the ability to shoot past slower traffic in sport mode and the way you can cruise all day long with the autobox. Brilliant all rounder especially with a few tweeks.

[tjlees]

Originally Posted by 335i nthehouse

I beg to differ, it isn't totally fake on the 335i. Come and stand behind my car and tell me it is a symposer. I got someone to rev it the other day while I stood outside.

People have checked for the part IIRC and it isn't there.

If I open my windows and give it welly through a tunnel, there is real noise. And I can't pass through a tunnel without doing this, even coming to a halt first if no traffic!

335d on the outside at the back sound is good for me .... but for Apr 2014

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=65_2390

[happycow6171]

I thought 6 series was on 2.9 apr?.

[Wills2]

Just a thought but do the 2 turbos of the 335d mask the power delivery a bit compared to the single wham bang thank you mam of the 330d?

I always found my 335d delivered its power very progressively, in that it's a lot faster than it feels, especially with the drama free x drive.

I timed it quicker to 62 than my e92 DCT M3 but it never "felt" as quick........but it was to 62.

[tjlees]

Originally Posted by Wills2

Just a thought but do the 2 turbos of the 335d mask the power delivery a bit compared to the single wham bang thank you mam of the 330d?

I always found my 335d delivered its power very progressively, in that it's a lot faster than it feels, especially with the drama free x drive.

I timed it quicker to 62 than my e92 DCT M3 but it never "felt" as quick........but it was to 62.

+1

Progressive and ridiculously fast!

[teaston]

Originally Posted by DaveH28

Not been on here for while,

I have a 63plate 330d f31. Still happy with it now, so smooth and responsive.
It currently has just over 34000 miles on so nicely run in now

Well I had one of those too good to be true letters off my local dealer today so decided to go and have a look....

He let me have a good drive in 335d saloon, so I got in and thought this should feel noticeably more responsive than mine.

I did about 25 miles on all types of roads, motorways etc.

My thoughts were, it just didn't feel as responsive as mine, the steering felt slightly lighter, I must admit though the sound was better I don't know if this is because it's 335d or changes due to model year.
Not so sure about the x drive, it grips great, but just not quite as much feel, I suspect if i didn't already have mine I would have blown away.

The main thing though for me is the response, mine still gives me a throw you back in your seat feel, this just didn't in the same way, I didn't believe it was all just down to mine being run in, it always felt smooth and responsive.

On another note.....there. Was 640d gran coupe with some great extras, and the deal was amazing, still too much for me but an amazing car for the money.

330d is the sweet spot!

[RichardM]

How many miles had the 335d done? Maybe it still needed to loosen up.

I changed from a 330d to the 335d and the later is noticeably quicker at all speeds and especially off the line. I have taken a 7mpg hit on fuel economy though partly due to the 4WD.

The engine is still quite dull though.

[UK_]

Originally Posted by Nick the Greek

Its a diesel.

Say no more.....

Never thought NTG and I would agree....:-)

You can quote mpg, Co2 and performance figures but
diesel is always a huge compromise. If fuel costs were
not an issue then diesel would not get a look in for a
non agricultural vehicle IMO.

One of the few things I loves about USA, stand on a street
corner in a city and listen to the wonderful sound of petrol engines
fill the air. Do the same in the UK and sounds awful (still love this
country).

[....,,,,..,,..]

Originally Posted by UK_

Never thought NTG and I would agree....:-)

You can quote mpg, Co2 and performance figures but
diesel is always a huge compromise. If fuel costs were
not an issue then diesel would not get a look in for a
non agricultural vehicle IMO.

One of the few things I loves about USA, stand on a street
corner in a city and listen to the wonderful sound of petrol engines
fill the air. Do the same in the UK and sounds awful (still love this
country).

If fuel costs were not an issue, would we have such modern and technologically advance engine systems?

I believe the need to get as much power from every drop of fuel is the drive to the majority of engine evolution occurs.

[edz_f06]

640d is definitely the choice...



even NTG said he likes 'em

[Beancounter_74]

Originally Posted by Nick the Greek

Its a diesel.

Say no more.....

[teaston]

Originally Posted by Beancounter_74

I'm not with you, i've never heard (read) NTG say a bad thing about real mans fuel (Diesel) before!

[Nick the Greek]

Originally Posted by edz_f31

640d is definitely the choice...



even NTG said he likes 'em

Yes.

I really, really, really like the 640d.

I'm having to really talk to myself NOT to have one as my next car.

But damn, damn do they look good