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First 340i reviews (compilation)
Featured on BIMMERPOST.com Autocar: http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/...tomatic-review CAR: http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-rev...i-2015-review/ Car and Driver: http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t-drive-review Autoexpress: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/bmw/3-s...acelift-review Edmunds: http://www.edmunds.com/bmw/3-series/2016/road-test.html Motoring Research: http://www.motoringresearch.com/car-...ive-0716983474 Motoring.com: http://www.motoring.com.au/reviews/2...5-review-52512 Pistonheads: http://www.pistonheads.com/news/driv...i-driven/32535 The Telegraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/bmw/...s-first-drive/ Top Gear: http://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/b...to/first-drive Whatcar: http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/bmw/...review/1354178 Wheelsmag: http://www.wheelsmag.com.au/reviews/...series-review/ Strong endorsements for the engine, transmission, handling, and even interior improvements (modest as they are). But it seems like VSS steering complaints are louder than ever? This is somewhat surprising, considering BMW seemed to suggest they made "improvements" in this area. BMW has ruined the surprisingly fine electric power steering of the F30 3 Series...It's easy to ignore the steering when you've an engine this good...Like, say, an E60 M5, you don't realise quite how good it is until you start hoofing it. Only then will the beautifully precise and clean turn-in and sense of roadster-like rear-led chassis control be revealed, its wonderful balance and adjustability be engaged with...But for the horrible steering. It's sticky straight ahead, snatchy in response, seems to magnetically 'freeze' in corners and lacks any of the finesse I recall from the first-gen F30 3 Series. Beneath, though, lies a reworked chassis for improved comfort and handling, and inside the cabin has been treated to upgraded materials...the 340i is a seriously impressive and addictive way to get around. Its six-cylinder twin-turbo engine is all-new (it isn't simply lifted from the M135i or M235i, despite having the same power) and its superbly smooth but hugely punchy power delivery is a joy to exploit...The 340i has more noises up its tailpipe, though; burbles on the overrun off the throttle and the odd pop on gear changes. The revised optional eight-speed gearbox works extremely well, too. It's sharper on multiple downshifts when taking control with the wheel-mounted paddles, but remains calm and intuitive when you just want to cruise along...The steering, while no quicker, feels a touch more responsive off centre too. Sport mode adds too much weight out of lower speed corners, but get up to speed and things improve. Comfort mode strikes the best balance between weight, precision and feedback across all speeds. Formidable. Outstanding in lots of ways. But still the class’s benchmark on performance and handling? It’s too early to say, but the early signs aren’t universally promising...It makes the 340i a seriously fast car in full cry - as quick from standstill to 62mph as an E46 M3, in fact, and probably quite a lot quicker pulling from low revs. It’s also very frugal given its performance level...It’s much too early to start the obituary on this car’s peerless dynamic qualifications, but they’d certainly gone missing in the case of our 340i. The car rode quietly and comfortably, but it lacked the good initial damping and lateral grip levels to take to testing roads with any distinguishing alacrity. The car still handles relatively well – but it’s far from outstanding...BMW’s Variable Sport Steering remains the 3 Series’ biggest dynamic bugbear - it’s to be avoided on the order form at any cost. |
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Plus: Sharper dynamics; improved ride; creamy smooth turbo six in 340i. Minus: Artificial steering; only minor visual changes; newer, potentially better, rivals... It's an engine with an obviously more accessible torque band, but one that is still quite happy to rev. There's a richer, deeper note to the engine too, that although distinctly ‘in-line six’ in character, is slightly more resonate than before. Enthusiasts will notice the muted tones of wastegate flutter when stepping sharply off the throttle...Much like the new engine, the changes to the chassis setting seem to gift the 3 Series with a broader range of talents. The car is more responsive to steering input and sharper on corner entry without being snappy... [The inline six] is very, very good. It’s top-end is properly serious, with rangey power and a gently hair-raising growl. But of course it also oozes torque in the mid revs, so you can surf along with mild-mannered ease and still cover the ground at a pretty epic rate. A water-to-air charge cooler, instead of an air-to-air intercooler, is one of the measures to cut lag, but it hasn’t been entirely eliminated below about 3000. Still, from there to 7000rpm, it’s all fantastic news. The eight-speed autobox’s moves are perfectly in step, too...You can never forget the fine agility, easy progression and superb balance of the 3-series fundamentals...[The steering changes] raise more questions than it answers. Sure, there’s fantastic precision and feel at big efforts on smooth roads. But there’s also a lot of bump disturbance, camber sniffing and generally odd changes of weighting when the surface isn’t perfect. The 3-series always suffered a bit in this regard, but the serene stability of a Jaguar XE on a typical bumpy road shows there’s another way. The new modular-build straight-six 340i is the fastest 3-series money can buy, short of the all-out M3. It turns out 322bhp and 332lb ft, it’s hooked up to an unflappable eight-speed automatic gearbox, and it can make the 3-series go hilariously, stupendously quickly...Not only does it sound like a thoroughbred sports car, with a crunchy fanfare of pops and crackles on the overrun, it goes like one too: goodness me it’s quick. Power delivery is as responsive as it is smooth, with little in the way of turbo lag, and in the mid-range it’s simply devastating...Muddying the waters slightly was the brand-new optional ‘Variable Sport’ adaptive steering system fitted to all cars at the launch. It’s an extra-cost option which alters the steering’s rate of response according to speed and not all who tried it were enamoured with it, but I never found its responses anything other than consistent accurate. Last edited by NightWriter; 07-16-2015 at 08:38 PM.. |
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07-16-2015, 10:15 PM | #4 |
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Does not sound great for VSS. I'm not thrilled with the general steering in my 335i much, but the VSS is nothing like what is being described here by some reviewers. Also, VSS didn't get many complaints at all in the pre LCI F30. It's the general steering in the F30 that has received many negatives.
What is begin stated in those excerpts almost sounds like there was something wrong with the system that was sent out to be reviewed, especially the first one. "Sticky, snatchy, and freezing" in corners? VSS in my 335i is nothing like that. Then there is this: "Muddying the waters slightly was the brand-new optional ‘Variable Sport’ adaptive steering system fitted to all cars at the launch. It’s an extra-cost option which alters the steering’s rate of response according to speed and not all who tried it were enamoured with it, but I never found its responses anything other than consistent accurate." VSS is not "adaptive", nor does it alter steering rate of response according to speed. VSS as used in the first F30's is a purely mechanical system that ramps up ration according to increased steering lock beyond 100 degrees. What the reviewer up there is writing sounds more like what the E90's "active steering" was complained about. This is making me rethink getting get the track pack with VSS. All I really want is the Msport suspension or the M-adaptive suspension. Maybe I'll just stick with Msport and leave out the track pack. Damn it BMW! Why can't you get the 3 series right, like it used to be!? I'm really hoping that these initials reviews are early examples and BMW actually corrects the problem asap before we in the US get the cars. Last edited by RPM90; 07-16-2015 at 10:49 PM.. |
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I'm having some regrets now about having ordered the track package, though I did want the brakes, non-RF performance tires, and DHP. Like you, I'm a little puzzled about some of these comments, given what VSS really is. Since they didn't test any models without it (as far as I can tell), they may be ascribing blame to VSS which is really inherent to the electric assist for all racks, VSS or not. |
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07-16-2015, 10:38 PM | #9 |
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Lost my credibility when he called it a twin turbo. So this writer A. Knows nothing about cars. B. Copies opinions of other car reviewers.
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I passed over a lot of other great cars and brands to give BMW another try on the LCI 340i. I hope BMW doesn't make me a sucker by buying into their "revised" LCI marketing. I didn't go with the 340i because of the new engine because the N55 in my 335i is fantastic as is. I am excited about the updates and changes to the suspension, steering, and auto trans. I'm holding on to hope. |
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07-16-2015, 11:26 PM | #12 |
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argh!!!!
I am still holding onto my 2007 335i that I bought as soon as I heard about it's twin turbo replacing the 330i. It has been PERFECT for nearly 93k miles, especially since I gave it some JB4 and then Cobb love a few years ago. The F30 continues to be a disappointment it seems! Sorry to say, but I might have to go back to Audi or even take a look at the C450 AMG (even without a manual). argh. I was REALLY hoping the LCI fixed all the bugs of the F30. |
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After reading all the reviews offered there is inconsistency with which reviewer had positive or neutral reaction to the retuned steering with VSS. The 340i's all look similar with blue and white, but they have different plates. So at least there appears to be something different between the cars regarding VSS. |
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Here's another review that provides a nice counterpoint. Maybe all the rest of these Brits copied off each other's notes before writing the same thing.
"Speaking of which, the response and feel from the revised steering system is noticeably improved from its predecessor with more weight, better response and a feeling of directness that was somewhat lacking before. Around the twisty mountainous terrain of the Austrian countryside, the 340i performed faultlessly." - http://www.caradvice.com.au/366443/2...series-review/ |
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07-16-2015, 11:54 PM | #16 |
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I'll reserve judgement until some more reputable media orgs get their hands on it. I want to hear the VSS vs non-VSS reviews too.
.... and obviously I want to drive it back to back vs the C450 AMG myself. But I really don't see myself buying an auto tranny! |
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07-17-2015, 12:54 AM | #17 |
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Better yet, go drive one... reputable media or not, it's all about marketing...What better way to get someone to read your review or watch your video than to complain about something.. In the car review world.. negative reviews of popular cars get more hits than positive ones.
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In "normal" driving on say a mountain road, I doubt many drivers would turn the steering wheel far enough to get into the 100 degree area where VSS does anything anyway. So the VSS feature should not matter when it comes to steering feel at higher speeds like this. But if you flip the DHP switch to sport mode on the current model there is a definite increase in steering effort. I'm wondering if however BMW has tweaked that is what these reviewers are not liking? I have a 2014 335i with DHP/VSS and did not order VSS on purpose this time on my 340i. I did order M-Sport with DHP though. Production completed a couple days ago, so I guess I'll see how this plays out in about in a month. Thanks to OP for posting all these reviews. |
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None of the reviews mention x drive from what I can tell. There's another bunch of reviews here too: 340i driven - multiple sources http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1151341
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I have the Pre LCI with VSS and I think it's the worst EPS steering I have tested with the possible exception Audi. That's right, Lexus, Honda, Mercedes all have better EPS systems then BMW. There is just no reason for high speed twitchiness it exhibits on the highway. It will then provide heft at very low speeds. It's the worst part of the car for me.
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