335d Touring Review in Evo

Englishbloke · 09-09-2015, 06:12 AM

http://www.evo.co.uk/bmw/3-series-to...rce=newsletter

M8 JTD · 09-09-2015, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Englishbloke

http://www.evo.co.uk/bmw/3-series-to...rce=newsletter

Finally!!!! - This is the Evo review that I have been waiting for

Englishbloke · 09-09-2015, 06:41 AM

It's actually got me considering a touring when I switch in a few months

dopper99 · 09-09-2015, 07:07 AM

Great review!
Couple of observations... they had great praise for the steering - but was it VSS or non-VSS they tested? The jornos generally all seem to have been given VSS so far.
But I wonder if they were given a non-VSS car by BMW in order to get better reviews on the steering?

Also, this does not look like the typical jacked up xdrive suspension to me............

In fact - that looks like an sdrive.

M8 JTD · 09-09-2015, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dopper99

Great review!
Couple of observations... they had great praise for the steering - but was it VSS or non-VSS they tested? The jornos generally all seem to have been given VSS so far.
But I wonder if they were given a non-VSS car by BMW in order to get better reviews on the steering?

Also, this does not look like the typical jacked up xdrive suspension to me............

In fact - that looks like an sdrive.

Interestingly those are recent BMW UK stock images of a 330d xDrive from here:
http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1168631
or here:
http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1124143

i.e not the car that Evo actually drove.

Beancounter_74 · 09-09-2015, 07:13 AM

Nice review.

Re the suspension, I've commented before, but the higher xDrive suspension doesn't seem so obvious on the Touring, even pre LCI like mine.

Must have been driving like a fanny though to achieve 44mpg on a 1,000 mile from Spain

Daftasabrush · 09-09-2015, 07:13 AM

Vehicle details:

Vehicle information

VIN long WBA8K92000K511000

Type code 8K92

Type 330D XDRIVE (EUR)

Dev. series F31 (MUE)

Line 3

Body type TOUR

Steering RL

Door count 5

Engine N57T

Cubical capacity 3.00

Power 190

Transmision ALLR

Gearbox AUT

Colour ESTORILBLAU 2 METALLIC (B45)

Upholstery LEDER DAKOTA/SCHW.AKZ.OYSTER DUNKEL (LCL8)

Prod. date 2015-03-23

Order options
No. Description
1CA SELECTION COP RELEVANT VEHICLES

2NH M SPORTBRAKE

2PA LOCKING WHEEL BOLTS

2TB SPORT AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION

2VB TYRE PRESSURE INDICATOR

2VF ADAPTIV M SUSPENSION

2VL VARIABLE SPORTS STEERING

21C 19"M LT/A.W.DO.SP.442 M BICOLOR ORB

230 EU SPECIFIC ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT

248 STEERING WHEEL HEATING

258 RUNFLAT TYRES

3AA ROOF RAILS BLACK

3AC TRAILER TOW HITCH

3AG BACKUP CAMERA

302 ALARM SYSTEM

322 COMFORT ACCESS SYSTEM

337 M SPORT PACKAGE

4AE ARMREST FRONT RETRACTABLE

4FT I.T.F. ALUMINIUM F.B.L. M. W.H.T.F.

402 PANORAMA GLASS ROOF

420 SUN PROTECTION GLAZING

423 FLOOR MATS, VELOUR

428 WARNING TRIANGLE

430 INT/EXT RR VW MIRROR W AUT ANTI-DAZZLE

431 INTERIOR RR VW MIRROR W AUT ANTI-D

459 SEAT ADJUSTM., ELECTR. W. MEMORY

481 SPORT SEATS F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER

488 LUMBAR SUPPORT DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER

493 STORAGE COMPARTMENT PACKAGE

494 SEAT HEATING F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER

496 SEAT HEATING FOR REAR SEATS

5AC AUTOM. HIGH-BEAM HEADLIGHTS CONTROL

5AG LANE CHANGE WARNING

5AL ACTIVE PROTECTION

5AS DRIVING ASSISTANT

5A1 LED-FOG LIGHTS

5DA PASSENGER AIRBAG DEACTIVATE

5DC FOLDING REAR-SEAT HEADRESTS

5DL SURROUND VIEW

5DP PARK ASSISTANT

502 HEADLIGHT WASHER SYSTEM

508 PARK DISTANCE CONTROL (PDC)

521 RAIN SENSOR

534 AUTOMATIC AIR CONDITIONING

544 CRUISE CONTROL WITH BRAKING FUNCTION

552 ADAPTIVE LED HEADLIGHT

563 LIGHTS PACKAGE

575 ADDITIONAL 12V POWER SOCKET

6AC INTELLIGENT EMERGENCY CALL

6AE TELESERVICES

6AK CONNECTEDDRIVE SERVICES

6AM REAL TIME TRAFFIC INFORMATION

6AN CONCIERGE SERVICES

6AP REMOTE SERVICES

6AR INTERNET

6FV ONLINE ENTERTAINMENT

6NS CONVENIENCE TELEPHONY WITH EXTENDED

6WA INSTRUMENT CLUSTER W. EXTENDED CONT

609 NAVIGATION SYSTEM PROFESSIONAL

610 HEAD UP DISPLAY

654 DAB TUNER

688 HARMAN/KARDON SURROUND SOUND SYSTEM

698 AREA-CODE 2

710 M LEATHER STEERING WHEEL

715 M AERODYNAMICS PACKAGE

760 INDIVIDUAL HIGH-GLOSS SATIN CHROME

775 INDIVIDUAL ROOF-LINING ANTHRACITE

8KA OELSERVICE INT. 30.000 KM/24 MONTHS

8SM VIN, VISIBLE FROM OUTSIDE

8S2 CODING OF ALARM SIGNAL

8S3 AUTOMATIC LOCK WHEN DRIVING AWAY

8TG ANTI-THEFT SYSTEM

8TH SPEED LIMIT INFO

812 ENGLAND VERSION

850 ADD FUEL TANK FILLING FOR EXPORT

880 ENGLISH / ON-BOARD DOCUMENTATION

9AA EXTERNAL SKIN PROTECTION

9AC CAMOUFFLAGE NSG VEHICLES

9AD LOCKABLE CAMOUFLAGE TARPAULIN

909 ANALYSECONNECTOR

991 PRE-SERIES MANAGEMENT

Daftasabrush · 09-09-2015, 07:17 AM

hang on...

Quote:

Type 330D XDRIVE (EUR)

Something funny going on here!

Daftasabrush · 09-09-2015, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 335d JTD

Interestingly those are recent BMW UK stock images of a 330d from here:
http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1168631
or here:
http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1124143

ahh yes, of course, they're stock photos of the 330D X drive, so not the car they actually drive.

M8 JTD · 09-09-2015, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daftasabrush

ahh yes, of course, they're stock photos of the 330D X drive, so not the car they actually drive.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 335d JTD

Interestingly those are recent BMW UK stock images of a 330d xDrive from here:
http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1168631
or here:
http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1124143

i.e not the car that Evo actually drove.

Yep

Zippeh · 09-09-2015, 07:23 AM

I find it odd that they dont mention the xdrive suspension when they say about the turn in. Just blame the weight.

dopper99 · 09-09-2015, 07:32 AM

Good spot on the pics chaps.

Shame it wasnt the actual car they tested.

Englishbloke · 09-09-2015, 08:08 AM

Tbh the whole article seems to be a little shoddy, lazy journalism?

....,,,,..,,.. · 09-09-2015, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Englishbloke

Tbh the whole article seems to be a little shoddy, lazy journalism?

I thought that was the new requirement for journalism these days.

Shoddy and lazy.

Majority of articles and reports are.

tjlees · 09-09-2015, 11:56 AM

Got the redline wrong as well

.. And the pleasing sound comes from the ASD.

Tengocity · 09-09-2015, 12:26 PM

Not a terrible review, but have to agree that the quality of car reviewing at the moment is not great. Too many short, vague and cliched reviews in almost all the publications.

I wonder what they'd think of one with ACS springs on!

M8 JTD · 09-09-2015, 01:12 PM

I'm hoping the full magazine article will be better - In fairness Evo normally water/edit down the website article otherwise why would people bother buying the magazine/subscribing.

It should be sitting in my letter box when I get home so I'll let you know.

Tengocity · 09-09-2015, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 335d JTD

I'm hoping the full magazine article will be better - In fairness Evo normally water/edit down the website article otherwise why would people bother buying the magazine/subscribing.

It should be sitting in my letter box when I get home so I'll let you know.

It's not appeared on the ego iPad edition yet and it's normally ahead of the magazine as its subscription only.

M8 JTD · 09-09-2015, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tengocity

It's not appeared on the ego iPad edition yet and it's normally ahead of the magazine as its subscription only.

Right you are, the box was empty

Tengocity · 09-09-2015, 02:09 PM

The other thing I will add is that basically BMW have totally copied my modifications to improve their car....

Beefier anti- roll bars- check
Stiffer suspension - check
More rigid top mounts - check
442 wheels - check

They just need another 50bhp, a proper 335 exhaust and it might actually be better!

bwrlane · 09-09-2015, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Englishbloke

It's actually got me considering a touring when I switch in a few months

I can't really think of any good reason not to get the touring. It drives the same (I've driven both and find them indistinguishable) and IMO is one of the most handsome cars around. With all due respect to the saloon, I consider the touring the better looking car, the only F3x that rivals it for class and style being the 4GC.

Rbrown · 09-09-2015, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bwrlane

I can't really think of any good reason not to get the touring. It drives the same (I've driven both and find them indistinguishable) and IMO is one of the most handsome cars around. With all due respect to the saloon, I consider the touring the better looking car, the only F3x that rivals it for class and style being the 4GC.

Good to see support for the touring! I'm biased, but I think it looks good too! There are more and more of them on the road now.

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Daftasabrush Fool 1857 Rep 3,542 Posts Drives: F31 340i Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: England iTrader: (0)	Vehicle details: Vehicle information VIN long WBA8K92000K511000 Type code 8K92 Type 330D XDRIVE (EUR) Dev. series F31 (MUE) Line 3 Body type TOUR Steering RL Door count 5 Engine N57T Cubical capacity 3.00 Power 190 Transmision ALLR Gearbox AUT Colour ESTORILBLAU 2 METALLIC (B45) Upholstery LEDER DAKOTA/SCHW.AKZ.OYSTER DUNKEL (LCL8) Prod. date 2015-03-23 Order options No. Description 1CA SELECTION COP RELEVANT VEHICLES 2NH M SPORTBRAKE 2PA LOCKING WHEEL BOLTS 2TB SPORT AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION 2VB TYRE PRESSURE INDICATOR 2VF ADAPTIV M SUSPENSION 2VL VARIABLE SPORTS STEERING 21C 19"M LT/A.W.DO.SP.442 M BICOLOR ORB 230 EU SPECIFIC ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT 248 STEERING WHEEL HEATING 258 RUNFLAT TYRES 3AA ROOF RAILS BLACK 3AC TRAILER TOW HITCH 3AG BACKUP CAMERA 302 ALARM SYSTEM 322 COMFORT ACCESS SYSTEM 337 M SPORT PACKAGE 4AE ARMREST FRONT RETRACTABLE 4FT I.T.F. ALUMINIUM F.B.L. M. W.H.T.F. 402 PANORAMA GLASS ROOF 420 SUN PROTECTION GLAZING 423 FLOOR MATS, VELOUR 428 WARNING TRIANGLE 430 INT/EXT RR VW MIRROR W AUT ANTI-DAZZLE 431 INTERIOR RR VW MIRROR W AUT ANTI-D 459 SEAT ADJUSTM., ELECTR. W. MEMORY 481 SPORT SEATS F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER 488 LUMBAR SUPPORT DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER 493 STORAGE COMPARTMENT PACKAGE 494 SEAT HEATING F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER 496 SEAT HEATING FOR REAR SEATS 5AC AUTOM. HIGH-BEAM HEADLIGHTS CONTROL 5AG LANE CHANGE WARNING 5AL ACTIVE PROTECTION 5AS DRIVING ASSISTANT 5A1 LED-FOG LIGHTS 5DA PASSENGER AIRBAG DEACTIVATE 5DC FOLDING REAR-SEAT HEADRESTS 5DL SURROUND VIEW 5DP PARK ASSISTANT 502 HEADLIGHT WASHER SYSTEM 508 PARK DISTANCE CONTROL (PDC) 521 RAIN SENSOR 534 AUTOMATIC AIR CONDITIONING 544 CRUISE CONTROL WITH BRAKING FUNCTION 552 ADAPTIVE LED HEADLIGHT 563 LIGHTS PACKAGE 575 ADDITIONAL 12V POWER SOCKET 6AC INTELLIGENT EMERGENCY CALL 6AE TELESERVICES 6AK CONNECTEDDRIVE SERVICES 6AM REAL TIME TRAFFIC INFORMATION 6AN CONCIERGE SERVICES 6AP REMOTE SERVICES 6AR INTERNET 6FV ONLINE ENTERTAINMENT 6NS CONVENIENCE TELEPHONY WITH EXTENDED 6WA INSTRUMENT CLUSTER W. EXTENDED CONT 609 NAVIGATION SYSTEM PROFESSIONAL 610 HEAD UP DISPLAY 654 DAB TUNER 688 HARMAN/KARDON SURROUND SOUND SYSTEM 698 AREA-CODE 2 710 M LEATHER STEERING WHEEL 715 M AERODYNAMICS PACKAGE 760 INDIVIDUAL HIGH-GLOSS SATIN CHROME 775 INDIVIDUAL ROOF-LINING ANTHRACITE 8KA OELSERVICE INT. 30.000 KM/24 MONTHS 8SM VIN, VISIBLE FROM OUTSIDE 8S2 CODING OF ALARM SIGNAL 8S3 AUTOMATIC LOCK WHEN DRIVING AWAY 8TG ANTI-THEFT SYSTEM 8TH SPEED LIMIT INFO 812 ENGLAND VERSION 850 ADD FUEL TANK FILLING FOR EXPORT 880 ENGLISH / ON-BOARD DOCUMENTATION 9AA EXTERNAL SKIN PROTECTION 9AC CAMOUFFLAGE NSG VEHICLES 9AD LOCKABLE CAMOUFLAGE TARPAULIN 909 ANALYSECONNECTOR 991 PRE-SERIES MANAGEMENT
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Zippeh Captain 345 Rep 926 Posts Drives: F82 M4 Manual 2015 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: North Wales iTrader: (0)	I find it odd that they dont mention the xdrive suspension when they say about the turn in. Just blame the weight.
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dopper99 Lieutenant General 3533 Rep 11,292 Posts Drives: Golf R Mk8 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: UK iTrader: (1)	Good spot on the pics chaps. Shame it wasnt the actual car they tested. __________________ Current: Golf R Mk8 Previous: Golf R Mk7.5 Mercedes AMG C63 S Coupe F80 M3 Competition Pack
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Englishbloke Captain 254 Rep 922 Posts Drives: F30 335d TB Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Midlands, UK iTrader: (0)	Tbh the whole article seems to be a little shoddy, lazy journalism?
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M8 JTD Captain 335 Rep 811 Posts Drives: F31 335d & 718 GTS Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Essex - UK iTrader: (0)	I'm hoping the full magazine article will be better - In fairness Evo normally water/edit down the website article otherwise why would people bother buying the magazine/subscribing. It should be sitting in my letter box when I get home so I'll let you know. __________________ Future: M8 Comp & 992 911 Current: F31 335d & 718 GTS Previous BMW's: F15 M50d, F82 M4 Previous Other: Caterham 620, Lotus Exige S, TVR Cerbera
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