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      10-23-2015, 03:04 PM   #1
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Right now my car is on 255/35 Dunlop Direzza II's, but, sadly, they are about ready to be retired.

I had a good experience with them. They're an adequate road tire and a pretty good track tire. A little noisy, but nothing too bad.

So, since I need a replacement soon, I was wondering if anyone had suggestions? I was thinking of just getting some Hankook Ventus V2's which (supposedly) are similar to the Direzzas, but trade off a little track-prowess for some better road manners. That, and they're 50 bucks cheaper per tire.

My other options would be the Direzza II Star Specs and the Bridgestone RE-71's. I like the Direzzas fine, but I've heard that the Bridgestones (although an amazing track tire) don't tend to last very long -- that 200 TW rating is generous.

I'm not really interested in anything with a TW < 200 -- I live in SoCal, so I just use the same tires for everything. So, 888's are out.

Any have any suggestions or comments?
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Hankook Ventus R-S3. Like you I use them both on track and street. They may not be quite as good on track as the Direzzas but still pretty damn close and predictable. They are also a bit less $ and as far as road noise they are only a bit louder than the stock PSS. After a couple of track days they did get louder but that's probably due to uneven wear and you have camber plates so no need to worry about that.
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Hankook Ventus R-S3. Like you I use them both on track and street. They may not be quite as good on track as the Direzzas but still pretty damn close and predictable. They are also a bit less $ and as far as road noise they are only a bit louder than the stock PSS. After a couple of track days they did get louder but that's probably due to uneven wear and you have camber plates so no need to worry about that.
Yeah, I've generally heard very good things about the Hankooks -- decent road manners and sticks pretty well at the track. I'll probably go with those.
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Original poster, I understand what your saying about wear rate but you do understand one manufscturers wear rating of 200 might be another companies 140. Those WR numbers are really for intra company comparisons.
I'm not too familiar with Korean tires wear rating though I've used them. But I think Pirelli wear numbers are optimistic compared to Michelin.
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Original poster, I understand what your saying about wear rate but you do understand one manufscturers wear rating of 200 might be another companies 140. Those WR numbers are really for intra company comparisons.
I'm not too familiar with Korean tires wear rating though I've used them. But I think Pirelli wear numbers are optimistic compared to Michelin.
Oh, I am quite aware that TW ratings are subjective at best. I just happen to know that the Direzzas and Hankooks actually wear pretty mildly compared to say, the Bridgestone Poenza 71's
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OP, just curious but how do you rate the original Michelin PSS tires?

I'm out of my territory with these tires, having always had all-seasons in the past. The Michelins are the best tires I've ever experienced. I can't believe how quiet they are on the highway. Super grippy. Plus they don't really seem to be a bad value for what you get.
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OP, just curious but how do you rate the original Michelin PSS tires?

I'm out of my territory with these tires, having always had all-seasons in the past. The Michelins are the best tires I've ever experienced. I can't believe how quiet they are on the highway. Super grippy. Plus they don't really seem to be a bad value for what you get.
PSS sidewall is really soft so they tend to roll over... unless you run like 40psi
I think PSS is the best tire for the street..

I love the RE-71 but it's a dedicated set... and they are a bit loud...
I heard the RS3 and the Dirreza are good too... i was between those 3 but went with the RE-71R cause it was the latest and had great reviews..

That's why I have PSS for the street and RE-71R for the track
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I have gone through a set of both. Star specs are quieter, hanooks run a little larger in sidewall and width. Hanooks seemed to handle higher temps (80plus) better and had a more consistent feel for the life of the tire. I keep two sets of rubber, so street mileage was limited, usually to when I was too lazy to take them off the car. The new bridgestones are awesome, but extremely loud. Friend has them on brz and has about 400 track miles with limited wear.
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I formely experienced Hankook ventus v12 on a 128i and loved them.
they compare to mpss in my view except the mpss treadwear which is incredible.for such a performance tire.
I do recommand.both highly.
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      10-28-2015, 05:00 PM   #10
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I run star specs in rain, pilot cup pro in dry.

PSS are a great street summer tire with weekend warrior track days in mind.
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I run star specs in rain, pilot cup pro in dry.

PSS are a great street summer tire with weekend warrior track days in mind.
I didn't find the PSS to handle heat very well. Chunked badly and got very, very greasy when things got hot
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I'm probably in the minority here or they don't have a good size to fit the 2'er but I've had really good overall experience with Yoko AD08R's on my previous car. They grip close to hankook/RE-71 but seem to wear much better and last longer. They are a little more expensive but considering they last and last (in my experience), it makes up for it.

I'm currently using the RE-71's and although they scared me with how quickly they wore down, I partially blame the lack of camber and since then, they have seemed to have leveled off on the wear rate. They grip like mad though.
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I'm going to go with the Hankook RS-3's. Someone on the forums had a 90% pair in 255/35/18 for cheap, and I'll go grab the other two off of tire rack.
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Nice! Let us know what your experience is with them!
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Reviving this thread as track season is here.

What's everyone thinking for track rubber this year?

Personally, I'm thinking of going 1 size down from a 245/35, to a 235/40, so I have more options. I'm thinking RE-71R, but torn also with the RE-11.....which I've run before and loved!
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Reviving this thread as track season is here.

What's everyone thinking for track rubber this year?

Personally, I'm thinking of going 1 size down from a 245/35, to a 235/40, so I have more options. I'm thinking RE-71R, but torn also with the RE-11.....which I've run before and loved!
I'm on Hankook RS3 V2s, 255/35 square. I'm interested to see how they do.
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Reviving this thread as track season is here.

What's everyone thinking for track rubber this year?

Personally, I'm thinking of going 1 size down from a 245/35, to a 235/40, so I have more options. I'm thinking RE-71R, but torn also with the RE-11.....which I've run before and loved!
I've also been trying to decide between the RE-71R and RE-11. Both have great reviews but I'm leaning towards the 11s as i keep reading it has better life than the 71s. Mind sharing why you loved the RE-11?
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I've also been trying to decide between the RE-71R and RE-11. Both have great reviews but I'm leaning towards the 11s as i keep reading it has better life than the 71s. Mind sharing why you loved the RE-11?
I am curious as well. I have heard great things about the RE-11s, namely that they are not necessarily made obsolete by the RE-71s, but that they are a slightly "less aggressive" version of that tire. Sort of like a hulked out Pilot Super Sport, rather than an R-Comp on sedatives.
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Also, for those interested, Tire Rack currently has the Hankook RS3 V2s at $169 a tire for 255/35 R18 (cheaper obviously for smaller tires). Quite a bargain!
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I've also been trying to decide between the RE-71R and RE-11. Both have great reviews but I'm leaning towards the 11s as i keep reading it has better life than the 71s. Mind sharing why you loved the RE-11?
I went through 2 sets of RE-11's roughly 5-6 years ago. I ran them on an M50 swapped E30 in 205/50/15's. You really couldn't get enough tire under the car and the RE-11 did better than gold it's own.

They had great grip for a street tire, they were very predictable and they lasted quite a while. They were good in the wet and the dry. Overall, it was just a great tire. Sidewall was pretty stiff....I ran the tire at 26psi cold and about 28-29psi hot.

Again, this was years ago when they first came out, but they were great!

I've heard great things about the RE-71R.....about it being super sticky.....but it doesn't last long. I don't mind going through a set of tires in a season, but I don't want to have to buy tires in Aug/Sept to make it to the last event or 2.
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I've heard great things about the RE-71R.....about it being super sticky.....but it doesn't last long. I don't mind going through a set of tires in a season, but I don't want to have to buy tires in Aug/Sept to make it to the last event or 2.
Yea the RE-71R is very tempting but I have a similar dilemma. I space out my track days year round and don't want to have to buy 2-3 sets a year.

Thanks for the input. I have talked to a couple guys that have said the RE-71R is not as consistent as others but too many factors in play to put blame on the tire. RE-11 is definitely going to be my choice this time around.
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I went through 2 sets of RE-11's roughly 5-6 years ago. I ran them on an M50 swapped E30 in 205/50/15's. You really couldn't get enough tire under the car and the RE-11 did better than gold it's own.

They had great grip for a street tire, they were very predictable and they lasted quite a while. They were good in the wet and the dry. Overall, it was just a great tire. Sidewall was pretty stiff....I ran the tire at 26psi cold and about 28-29psi hot.

Again, this was years ago when they first came out, but they were great!

I've heard great things about the RE-71R.....about it being super sticky.....but it doesn't last long. I don't mind going through a set of tires in a season, but I don't want to have to buy tires in Aug/Sept to make it to the last event or 2.
I ran the RE-71R for 3 events and still have about 80% left to 2/32th.... so should be able to get about 15 events till you get to the illegal limit....
Also I have the M4 LCA's so that helps with wear in the front
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