[junniior95]

Debating of selling my FBO 2011 BMW 335i X-Drive with 48k miles after winter, to either jump in a 2015 BMW M3 or 2015 Benz C63s model. This car is also my daily in MA, but my question is this. Should I fork up an extra 3-4k for a Stage 2 turbo from Pure, or just part out and sell it after the winter. My car is currently pushing 356whp / 441wtq Protuned by Brentuning.

Mods:
Cobb AP
VRSF DP
VRSF FMIC
BMS CP
BMS CAI
Eisenmann Race Exhaust w/ cutout valve
Removed Secondary Resonators
Alpina TCU Flash

If I was to keep it I would probably do the turbo & MAYBE the HFS-4 meth kit. I've done much more to this car than just performance such as mods to the exterior / interior / rims / coilovers / escort 9500ci radar; the list goes on & on.

Would a stage 2 FBO N55 beat a JB4 tuned M3? Just want some input for my options down the road, any help would be appreciated.

[grizz311]

I think it would be a very close race stage 2 pure vs M3 Jb4. Either way, I personally would keep the car. Your miles are still low, and it looks like you have all the mods already. The M3 should drop to around 50k in a year or so, maybe look to pick it up then? The C63 is nice, but its a different beast. I rest drove my friends 09 C63, and it was a great car and sounded good, but I still prefer my N55 over it.

[hz_diesel]

Originally Posted by junniior95

Debating of selling my FBO 2011 BMW 335i X-Drive with 48k miles after winter, to either jump in a 2015 BMW M3 or 2015 Benz C63s model. This car is also my daily in MA, but my question is this. Should I fork up an extra 3-4k for a Stage 2 turbo from Pure, or just part out and sell it after the winter. My car is currently pushing 356whp / 441wtq Protuned by Brentuning.

Mods:
Cobb AP
VRSF DP
VRSF FMIC
BMS CP
BMS CAI
Eisenmann Race Exhaust w/ cutout valve
Removed Secondary Resonators
Alpina TCU Flash

If I was to keep it I would probably do the turbo & MAYBE the HFS-4 meth kit. I've done much more to this car than just performance such as mods to the exterior / interior / rims / coilovers / escort 9500ci radar; the list goes on & on.

Would a stage 2 FBO N55 beat a JB4 tuned M3? Just want some input for my options down the road, any help would be appreciated.

So your the one who tuned his car right before me haha. I just got my tune from Bren. I am in a similar situation but I feel safer having the x Drive. Going to get a stage 2 turbo sometime next year? In the spring I am going to focus on suspension stuff.

[Supra2k6]

Finish the car and enjoy it. Once you get the M3 youll go to the whole cycle again of wheels, exhaust,etc

[Volrath]

A jb4 m3 and a pure n55 335i would not be close. 335i would eat m3.. check videos.

[CantCatchMe]

http://www.n54tech.com/forums/attach...1&d=1404412549

Hmm, I must be seeing things lol. That's just on a JB4 and E50. It would be very close.

[CantCatchMe]

On a side note, keep your car get the PS2. Get the M3(my favorite new M car) in a couple years when prices are lower.

[msabiha2003]

Originally Posted by junniior95

Debating of selling my FBO 2011 BMW 335i X-Drive with 48k miles after winter, to either jump in a 2015 BMW M3 or 2015 Benz C63s model. This car is also my daily in MA, but my question is this. Should I fork up an extra 3-4k for a Stage 2 turbo from Pure, or just part out and sell it after the winter. My car is currently pushing 356whp / 441wtq Protuned by Brentuning.

Mods:
Cobb AP
VRSF DP
VRSF FMIC
BMS CP
BMS CAI
Eisenmann Race Exhaust w/ cutout valve
Removed Secondary Resonators
Alpina TCU Flash

If I was to keep it I would probably do the turbo & MAYBE the HFS-4 meth kit. I've done much more to this car than just performance such as mods to the exterior / interior / rims / coilovers / escort 9500ci radar; the list goes on & on.

Would a stage 2 FBO N55 beat a JB4 tuned M3? Just want some input for my options down the road, any help would be appreciated.

wow , im actually going crazy trying to decide what to do .
i have the same scenario as yours and live in MA. i got 2011 e92 FBO N55 xdrive automatic.
MODS:
jb4
vrsf fmic
BMS cp.
runing some e85 gas.
last dyno was 378/435 on a mustang dyno (before FMIC).
1/4 mile run 12.195@111..
i was thinking of getting m4 manual transmission or keep my car and get pure s2 turbo.
cost to get pure turbo will run beyond 4k-5k, you need upgraded fuel pump, you need some type of extra fuel injection systems
(TBI) and then you need to re tune the car, and then you will have to upgrade your suspension system to handle this type of power increase , and if you have manual transmission you need new clutch too. plus keep in mind that you pushing the limits on your car, how much more can it take?
now in the other hand M series are a lot more expensive , rear wheel drive only too, but you have all the stuff you need to go really fast with m series. better braking, better handling, real twin turbo setup,better ,looking, simple tune will net you 500+ whp, and you not pushing the limits .
so if you find an answer to your problem pleaseeeeeee let me know, you can tell im going crazy.lol

[turbo_chris]

Having spent a lot of time behind my stage 2 turbo e90 and a F80 with intakes and jb4 stage 2 I highly recommend the F80. It's better in every way. Also, fighting misfires on big turbo N55's is horrible.

I'm running upgraded M suspension front and rear in my car too.... Still recommend the F80.

[YouAreMyWorld]

Honestly, I'd suggest staying with your vehicle and enjoying the fruits of your labor so far. You've clearly put in a great deal of work and dedication into it and you're only truly scratching the surface of its capabilities--after all the N55 scene as a whole has a lot of maturing to do and who knows what may be developed in another year.

With that said, financially, it would also be a wise decision. Unless we're talking exotics here, vehicles are never a good thing to invest in purely from a financial standpoint. Barring some exceptions of course, I'd personally allow another year to take effect on the depreciating value of the F8X M3. Therefore you can save a bundle and still enjoy a fairly fine vehicle.

[M.a.r.k.u.s]

Originally Posted by junniior95

Debating of selling my FBO 2011 BMW 335i X-Drive with 48k miles after winter, to either jump in a 2015 BMW M3 or 2015 Benz C63s model. This car is also my daily in MA, but my question is this. Should I fork up an extra 3-4k for a Stage 2 turbo from Pure, or just part out and sell it after the winter. My car is currently pushing 356whp / 441wtq Protuned by Brentuning.

Mods:
Cobb AP
VRSF DP
VRSF FMIC
BMS CP
BMS CAI
Eisenmann Race Exhaust w/ cutout valve
Removed Secondary Resonators
Alpina TCU Flash

If I was to keep it I would probably do the turbo & MAYBE the HFS-4 meth kit. I've done much more to this car than just performance such as mods to the exterior / interior / rims / coilovers / escort 9500ci radar; the list goes on & on.

Would a stage 2 FBO N55 beat a JB4 tuned M3? Just want some input for my options down the road, any help would be appreciated.

I'm in the same boat as you. Same exact car with virtually the same mods, except that I'm at 64k now. No issues with the car but I'm wondering how long that will last. I'm debating on going down the Pure Stage 2 route as well but I also have to get emissions done next month and I have a feeling that once I take the dp off, I'm not going to put it back on and just end up selling. My problem is that I don't know what to get next. I love the combination of 4 doors, awd, handling, luxury and power and I love the way this car looks. I don't like the F series (other than the M3's but since those a rwd, it's out). So I'm actually debating on trying out an Audi S3 or S4 (lease only).

[kamfa39]

Pure stage 2! Do it

[M.a.r.k.u.s]

Originally Posted by kamfa39

Pure stage 2! Do it

If I was to do it, could someone who has done it tell me if I'm close with my cost estimate?

$2500 for the Pure Stage 2
$250 for the inlet pipe
$500 for a new water pump (might as well if it's all taken apart)
$600-$800 for labor (mechanic is a friend of mine)

am I missing anything?

[msabiha2003]

Originally Posted by M.a.r.k.u.s

If I was to do it, could someone who has done it tell me if I'm close with my cost estimate?

$2500 for the Pure Stage 2
$250 for the inlet pipe
$500 for a new water pump (might as well if it's all taken apart)
$600-$800 for labor (mechanic is a friend of mine)

am I missing anything?

you also need upgraded fuel pump stage 2 about $500 + core.
i think you need Upgraded DV $135.00
if you planning on maximizing the turbo u need PORT FUEL INJECTION $600.00

[mashimarho]

Any sound clips of this cutout eisennman exhaust? Sounds intoxicating.

But, yes... Pure stage 2 beats JB4 M3.

[Turbod]

Originally Posted by M.a.r.k.u.s

If I was to do it, could someone who has done it tell me if I'm close with my cost estimate?

$2500 for the Pure Stage 2
$250 for the inlet pipe
$500 for a new water pump (might as well if it's all taken apart)
$600-$800 for labor (mechanic is a friend of mine)

am I missing anything?

What are you planning to do fuel wise? As stated below you may want to upgrade the fuel pump/add TB injection or port injection. Meth is always an option too. It depends on how much boost you would like to run.

Originally Posted by msabiha2003

you also need an upgraded fuel pump, stage 2 about $500 + core. If you want to run E
i think you need Upgraded DV $135.00
if you planning on maximizing the turbo u need PORT FUEL INJECTION $600.00

Fixed

[junniior95]

I'd like to thank everyone for their opinions and their help, I may just stick with it and wait till the prices of both cars go down then make up my mind unless I catch a really good deal on something else. Keep you guys posted!

[junniior95]

Originally Posted by mashimarho

Any sound clips of this cutout eisennman exhaust? Sounds intoxicating.

But, yes... Pure stage 2 beats JB4 M3.

I will try and upload a video soon of cold starts (extremely loud) / difference between valve open / valve closed & daily driving from the cabin

[M.a.r.k.u.s]

Originally Posted by msabiha2003

you also need upgraded fuel pump stage 2 about $500 + core.
i think you need Upgraded DV $135.00
if you planning on maximizing the turbo u need PORT FUEL INJECTION $600.00

I'm not looking to max it out. 99% of the time, I'll be running on pump gas. I just like the idea of having upwards of 400whp on pump gas.

[DrRobert]

Originally Posted by msabiha2003

you also need upgraded fuel pump stage 2 about $500 + core.
i think you need Upgraded DV $135.00
if you planning on maximizing the turbo u need PORT FUEL INJECTION $600.00

Definitely do the DV+ upgrade. But you don't need to upgrade the fuel pump or anything else on the fuel side, especially if you're running pump gas. Sure, you can do that if you want to but it is not required for the PS2. You can just do the turbo, inlet and DV then retune for whatever fuel you want. Can always do fueling upgrades later if you want to.

[CantCatchMe]

^^
Exactly. If you move into E85 and other fuel supplements, stage 2 lpfp is a must and so is the TBI. Our cars suck with misfires up top with the PS2.

[classyfast]

I say keep your car and lease an M2.....the f8x is trash