[mtx450]

I've tried searching for this and keep getting lost in tons of conflicting info.

Question: Are the M-Sport brakes included in the Track Handling Package of the 340i the same as the regular brakes, just powdercoated blue?

[kromix]

They are not the same, the rear goes from floating to 2-piston.

[mtx450]

Originally Posted by kromix

They are not the same, the rear goes from floating to 2-piston.

Good info, thanks. Are the fronts the same?

[kromix]

Originally Posted by mtx450

Good info, thanks. Are the fronts the same?

I am 90^% sure the front is the same just painted but the rears are different for sure.

[mtx450]

Originally Posted by kromix

I am 90^% sure the front is the same just painted but the rears are different for sure.

So my dilemma is that my order officially is getting processed on Monday, which I'm sure won't be changeable after that. I really wanted the 403M wheels (not available with the track package), but "thought" I wanted the M-Sport brakes more. Now I'm realizing that they are pretty much the same, so I might change my order...again.

[kromix]

Originally Posted by mtx450

So my dilemma is that my order officially is getting processed on Monday, which I'm sure won't be changeable after that. I really wanted the 403M wheels (not available with the track package), but "thought" I wanted the M-Sport brakes more. Now I'm realizing that they are pretty much the same, so I might change my order...again.

You should be able to change it even after the order is in, you have until the order changes to STATUS 150 to change ur order... plenty of time... Yea if ur buying and not leasing probably cheaper to not get track package unless u want the adaptive suspension, get ur 403M's and upgrade brakes later if u so choose.

Here is my timeline:

*******Code Description
12/05/15000 Order Placed at BMW Dealership
12/09/15112 Order scheduled for Production
12/12/15150 Production Started
01/05/16151 Body Shop Started
01/07/16152 Paint Shop Started
01/08/16153 Assembly Started
01/11/16155 Production Completed
01/11/16182 AG Load No. -- Released to Carrier
01/11/16190 Dispatched ex(port?) BMW AG
01/14/16193 Arrived at Port of Exit
01/20/16194 Selected for Shipment
01/20/16195 Shipped from Port of Exit
196 Shipment Arrival -- ATA

[mtx450]

Originally Posted by kromix

You should be able to change it even after the order is in, you have until the order changes to STATUS 150 to change ur order... plenty of time... Yea if ur buying and not leasing probably cheaper to not get track package unless u want the adaptive suspension, get ur 403M's and upgrade brakes later if u so choose.

Good to know. Yeah, I'm sorta trying to think of which is the best way to go. I guess I could just get the brakes and then try to trade wheels later on.

I am also bummed that you don't get the fog-lights with the Track Handling package.

[kromix]

Originally Posted by mtx450

Good to know. Yeah, I'm sorta trying to think of which is the best way to go. I guess I could just get the brakes and then try to trade wheels later on.

I am also bummed that you don't get the fog-lights with the Track Handling package.

So skip Track Handling, I did :P

[mtx450]

Originally Posted by kromix

So skip Track Handling, I did :P

I've got 48 hours to make a decision. First world problems.

[Goody4]

Originally Posted by mtx450

I've got 48 hours to make a decision.

No, you don't. Times between production status codes are very fluid with BMW. As an example, some cars may be produced two weeks earlier than expected; others, days or weeks later. These are extreme examples, but there is no hard-and-fast timeline between any of the production codes.

It may be too late. Or, you might have another week.

[claykin]

FYI, some options are locked out from change once car hits 112.

And something else not mentioned above, the MSport brakes are more than a painted front caliper and 2 piston fixed rear caliper, they also have larger rotors.

[mtx450]

Originally Posted by Goody4

No, you don't. Times between production status codes are very fluid with BMW. As an example, some cars may be produced two weeks earlier than expected; others, days or weeks later. These are extreme examples, but there is no hard-and-fast timeline between any of the production codes.

It may be too late. Or, you might have another week.

The reason I said I have 48 hours is because they didn't put the order through yet.

Originally Posted by claykin

FYI, some options are locked out from change once car hits 112.

And something else not mentioned above, the MSport brakes are more than a painted front caliper and 2 piston fixed rear caliper, they also have larger rotors.

Thanks for the info!

[str86diesel]

If you can afford it, i absolutely recommend getting the track handling package.

Before i ordered my car, i test drove cars with and without and it was a world of difference. Without it, the suspension felt mushy to me, where as with it, i could feel more feedback and the car felt 1000 times better and more stable.

Here is another thread to reference: http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1219023

[mtx450]

Thanks for the info everyone. I put my order in on 2/2 and got the THP with the 442M wheels.

[DrifterX]

Originally Posted by kromix

I am 90^% sure the front is the same just painted but the rears are different for sure.

The fronts are NOT the same; front rotor size goes from 340mm (stock) to 370mm (M Sport Brakes). Calipers may look the same but they are different parts altogether.

Following links are for reference:
Stock Brakes: http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=34_2353
M Sport Brakes: http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=34_2312
This talks about 335i but should translate to 340i too: http://www.turnermotorsport.com/t-br...fferences.aspx

Originally Posted by mtx450

Thanks for the info everyone. I put my order in on 2/2 and got the THP with the 442M wheels.

Good job on going for the track handling package