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      04-11-2016, 10:57 PM   #1
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Install order for FBO mods?

Hey all,

I have a 2012 E92 and I'm looking to do the full range of mods. Is there a recommended order to do them in? I'm looking to space the cost out and know that some mods are reliant on others. From the reading I have done, I know I am doing a JB4 for sure.

Feel free to throw me a link if there is a good guide out there that I missed.

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      04-11-2016, 11:20 PM   #2
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My mod order was intake (purely for sound) > jb4+charge pipe > intercooler > catless dp > meth. The only thing I'd change is getting two meth bungs instead of one.

I'm in Canada so the most we get is 94 at a pump, meth helps with that, although not recommended as a fuelling solution, I've taken my chances.
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Locally, I only see 91 where I live. I'm sure there is higher if I search it out but not something I've looked into.
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From a performance stand point:

Charge pipe - JB4 - Downpipe - FMIC

If you don't have ethanol available then you could put Meth in before the FMIC. After that PS2, cobb and fuel.
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      04-12-2016, 10:31 AM   #5
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I would say no matter what though the Charge Pipe should be #1, guys blow that thing on stock boost levels. Get rid of the weak link before you start pushing the car.
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Thanks for the responses. The charge pipe thing makes a lot of sense if it is as weak as you say.
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I would do

Tune
Downpipe
Intercooler
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Reason why I would not do the charge pipe first if I was you is because we are local to you. If the CP breaks we would provide one for you same day
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My mod order was intake (purely for sound) > jb4+charge pipe > intercooler > catless dp > meth. The only thing I'd change is getting two meth bungs instead of one.

I'm in Canada so the most we get is 94 at a pump, meth helps with that, although not recommended as a fuelling solution, I've taken my chances.
where you from in canada ? im from montreal and always get 94 petro also but i need more fuel since im maxing out trims on 94 map 2 with ff wires...what meth kit you have and any issues so far ?
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As there are so many people here with aftermarket snails, at what point will they be required to have our car be considered as FBO?
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My order was JB4, Intake, Chargepipe, Downpipe, Meth, Intercooler, Better tires.

If I were to do it again. JB4, Chargepipe (two meth bungs), Downpipe, Intercooler, Meth, Better tires.

Next will either be a bigger turbo or a limited slip diff.
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My order was JB4, Intake, Chargepipe, Downpipe, Meth, Intercooler, Better tires.

If I were to do it again. JB4, Chargepipe (two meth bungs), Downpipe, Intercooler, Meth, Better tires.

Next will either be a bigger turbo or a limited slip diff.
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where you from in canada ? im from montreal and always get 94 petro also but i need more fuel since im maxing out trims on 94 map 2 with ff wires...what meth kit you have and any issues so far ?
You should adjust your FOL to compensate for trims that are pinned to the Max for the whole pull. I'm in the GTA in Ontario, running the BMS kit with a cm10 nozzle at 17psi and 5-6+ degrees of timing.

A two bung setup could push another couple psi I think.
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You should adjust your FOL to compensate for trims that are pinned to the Max for the whole pull. I'm in the GTA in Ontario, running the BMS kit with a cm10 nozzle at 17psi and 5-6+ degrees of timing.

A two bung setup could push another couple psi I think.
is 17 psi the max you can run with only 1 bung and 1 cm 10 nozzle ? a two bung setup with couple more psi would destroy the oem snail real fast right ?

p.s ok ill adjust my FOL
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On our 94, yea just about, you can run more boost with less timing but I prefer to keep "avg ign" 0.5 or under. You can also run a bigger nozzle, but isn't recommended due to less atomization.

Pm if you have more questions!
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I would do

Tune
Downpipe
Intercooler
Charge Pipe
Intake


Reason why I would not do the charge pipe first if I was you is because we are local to you. If the CP breaks we would provide one for you same day
I'll have to swing by at some point for a chat. I'm all for supporting the local guy where I can.

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My order was JB4, Intake, Chargepipe, Downpipe, Meth, Intercooler, Better tires.

If I were to do it again. JB4, Chargepipe (two meth bungs), Downpipe, Intercooler, Meth, Better tires.

Next will either be a bigger turbo or a limited slip diff.
Seems like there is no great consistency in opinions on the path to take. Right now I don't know much but I'm doing plenty of reading. Limited slip is definitely in the plans later on but with everything you listed, plus bigger turbos, where are you hoping to end up HP wise or 1/4 mile time?

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I would do

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Reason why I would not do the charge pipe first if I was you is because we are local to you. If the CP breaks we would provide one for you same day
I know you have great service Mike, but are you going to deliver it to him on the side of the road?
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I know you have great service Mike, but are you going to deliver it to him on the side of the road?
We have delivered products locally at 1-2 am ... Delivering on the side of the road during business hours is not a problem
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We have delivered products locally at 1-2 am ... Delivering on the side of the road during business hours is not a problem
That's it, I'm moving to Vegas. The blackjack, the hookers, and now curbside mod delivery.
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I would do/did:
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Catless Downpipes
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Charge pipe
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Inlets
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Assorted odds and ends along the way. Subframe bushings, pcv, etc.
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There's no correct order.

But my general rule is:

Tune
Intake
Charge Pipe
Intercooler
Downpipes

It's important for N55 to get the charge pipe with the intake IMO.
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