[RobUK]

Z4's seem to be as rare as rocking-horse shit, almost never see them outside of the local dealer's showroom, so what gives? Is it just a victim of strong competition from Mazda at the low end and Porsche at the high end? See loads of MX5's and Boxsters around and while the Porsche looks the dogs, I reckon the Z4 kicks the MX5 into the weeds in the looks department. What else is the issue? Poor VFM? Poor residuals? Some other flaw?

When looking to replace the 328i I briefly flirted with the idea of a Z4 35i as I'm partial to a 2 seater ragtop, but the deals couldn't match the 340i, and I guessed it's due for replacement soon. Thinks... B58 engine in a Z4, hmmm

[elstoof]

Loads of them round my way.

[ak335dxdrive]

Loads around my way too. But almost always driven by young ish women.

[Jbrock22]

Originally Posted by RobUK

Z4's seem to be as rare as rocking-horse shit, almost never see them outside of the local dealer's showroom, so what gives? Is it just a victim of strong competition from Mazda at the low end and Porsche at the high end? See loads of MX5's and Boxsters around and while the Porsche looks the dogs, I reckon the Z4 kicks the MX5 into the weeds in the looks department. What else is the issue? Poor VFM? Poor residuals? Some other flaw?

When looking to replace the 328i I briefly flirted with the idea of a Z4 35i as I'm partial to a 2 seater ragtop, but the deals couldn't match the 340i, and I guessed it's due for replacement soon. Thinks... B58 engine in a Z4, hmmm

Lots of them around here. I had a Z4. Fun car to cruise in with top down. But it handled poorly. My 2006 325i at the time with 16" tires could easily out handle it. Not even close. Very simply there are better choices out there.

[philiper1]

which gen are you talking about? have to remember the E89 will be replaced as it has been out since 2009! I still prefer E85/E86 though

[creepy coupe]

I think the SLK was a better car up until the present version. Which was the first to get toys like air scarf and electronic parking brake. My missus looked at them when she ended up buying the SLk. BMW just didn't come close the finance offers from MB.

[x DR Vodka x]

I had a 2011 Z4, loved it, the sound with the roof down was the bollox. Then new baby came along ... lol They changed the engines to 4 pot turbo's if i remember the year after i got mine ... cant beat the sound of a 3L 6 pot.

[Tengocity]

There's a few around and I don't see all that many more Boxsters or SLKs around. This is a segment that has been in overall consistent decline for years now.

I had a 2010 Z4 30i and we loved it, and really regret selling it now. It out handles any 3 series short of the M cars, especially if you swap to decent tyres- makes a bigger difference in this car than any other I've done it with.

They are a great blend of fun sports car, but enough refinement, space and toys to be a good long distance tourer. We had its to Tuscany, Alps, France, 2 up with holiday luggage for a couple of weeks.

And I did quite a few track days too.

[Jbrock22]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

There's a few around and I don't see all that many more Boxsters or SLKs around. This is a segment that has been in overall consistent decline for years now.

I had a 2010 Z4 30i and we loved it, and really regret selling it now. It out handles any 3 series short of the M cars, especially if you swap to decent tyres- makes a bigger difference in this car than any other I've done it with.

They are a great blend of fun sports car, but enough refinement, space and toys to be a good long distance tourer. We had its to Tuscany, Alps, France, 2 up with holiday luggage for a couple of weeks.

And I did quite a few track days too.

A current stock Z4 handling does not compare to the handling of a 3 series. Not even close. My E90 325i with 16" tires easily could best it and my 340i would absolutely kill it. It was a cruiser at best. Fun car but not a handler.

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by Jbrock22

A current stock Z4 handling does not compare to the handling of a 3 series. Not even close. My E90 325i with 16" tires easily could best it and my 340i would absolutely kill it. It was a cruiser at best. Fun car but not a handler.

Sorry, I disagree completely, emphatically, whole heartedly and without reservation. My Z4 would easily keep up with any non-M car standard 3 series on the twisties. The bigger engined ones might get away on the straights but lateral grip, traction, braking, steering feel, turn in poise were all miles better than on any of my E90s, and my current F31 335d. My current car is probably quicker now but that's with expensive coil overs and 100 more bhp. The only mod I did to that Z4 was put MPSS tyres in it.

[dopper99]

Originally Posted by Jbrock22

Lots of them around here. I had a Z4. Fun car to cruise in with top down. But it handled poorly. My 2006 325i at the time with 16" tires could easily out handle it. Not even close. Very simply there are better choices out there.

What model was your Z4? Was it the old one? I think Tengo is talking about the newer one.

[deebee]

Theres a lot of cars that excel in this sector, Boxster, s2000, mx5, even 370z cab, probably higher on most peoples shopping lists

[Jbrock22]

Originally Posted by dopper99

What model was your Z4? Was it the old one? I think Tengo is talking about the newer one.

Nope newer generation 6 cyl. It was fun. But it was not a very good handling car.

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by The Doctor

Theres a lot of cars that excel in this sector, Boxster, s2000, mx5, even 370z cab, probably higher on most peoples shopping lists

I think the Boxster excels but it's the only for me- the rest have strong points, but also their issues.

[Jbrock22]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

Sorry, I disagree completely, emphatically, whole heartedly and without reservation. My Z4 would easily keep up with any non-M car standard 3 series on the twisties. The bigger engined ones might get away on the straights but lateral grip, traction, braking, steering feel, turn in poise were all miles better than on any of my E90s, and my current F31 335d. My current car is probably quicker now but that's with expensive coil overs and 100 more bhp. The only mod I did to that Z4 was put MPSS tyres in it.

You car is modified. A current generation stock Z4 against a current stock 340i w/adaptive & sport brakes there is no comparison. The 340 would beat it 0-60 , 1/4 mile and on a track. The Z4 would wallow around the curves set a line and wallow again. I owned a Z4 & enjoyed it. But it's a boulevard cruiser. Every publication I have ever read will confirm it. It is what it is.

[tinytrevor]

Nothing wrong with a z4, perhaps it's too cool to be a hairdresser's car, hence why they are not popular?

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by Jbrock22

You car is modified. A current generation stock Z4 against a current stock 340i w/adaptive & sport brakes there is no comparison. The 340 would beat it 0-60 , 1/4 mile and on a track. The Z4 would wallow around the curves set a line and wallow again. I owned a Z4 & enjoyed it. But it's a boulevard cruiser. Every publication I have ever read will confirm it. It is what it is.

Depending on the engine in the Z4 then 340i would likely be quicker, but it's all the engine. If there is any car in this conversation which isn't a great handler it's a standard F30. I enjoyed my Z4 on track without doing a thing to it, but my F31 needs a load of mods to still not be anywhere as much fun or competent on track. You're also claiming that your E90 325i was a miles better quicker and better handling car, which is crazy talk frankly.
Now I'm not saying that the Z4 was amazing, it's well back from a Boxster, but it's also much less expensive. To me it was a great all rounder in that category of sports car. So a cruiser in that context is still a better handling car than standard range small 4 door saloon cars. Especially one that it was based on.

[eluded]

The Z4 is one of the 10 lowest volume selling cars in the United States. They are extremely rare. Decent car but I think buyers prefer the Porsche boxer for the money and if they don't like the Porsche, Mercedes-Benz.

What do you guys think of the Z3 rumors?

[Chompers]

Originally Posted by eluded

The Z4 is one of the 10 lowest volume selling cars in the United States. They are extremely rare. Decent car but I think buyers prefer the Porsche boxer for the money and if they don't like the Porsche, Mercedes-Benz.

What do you guys think of the Z3 rumors?

Had heard about a possible Z2, guess this would be closer to an MX5.

[eluded]

Some say it would be FWD

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Originally Posted by eluded

The Z4 is one of the 10 lowest volume selling cars in the United States. They are extremely rare. Decent car but I think buyers prefer the Porsche boxer for the money and if they don't like the Porsche, Mercedes-Benz.

What do you guys think of the Z3 rumors?

You can't really go off what spams buy, also they are very much badge snobs.

They would not know a decent car if it bit them in the arse.


Have read reports on the Z5 and some 'spy shots' of it.

There is also the collaboration project that BMW are working on with Toyota.

There is a rumour the new supra and Z5 could share similar platform architecture.

[Edinburra]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

Sorry, I disagree completely, emphatically, whole heartedly and without reservation. My Z4 would easily keep up with any non-M car standard 3 series on the twisties. The bigger engined ones might get away on the straights but lateral grip, traction, braking, steering feel, turn in poise were all miles better than on any of my E90s, and my current F31 335d. My current car is probably quicker now but that's with expensive coil overs and 100 more bhp. The only mod I did to that Z4 was put MPSS tyres in it.

What engine size did you have on your Z4?