Switch to Non Run-flats

RichardJ · 06-05-2016, 03:39 AM

Has anyone switched from runflat to non runflats? Does it make much of a difference to ride and handling? If yes which non run flats are worth considering?

simon the pieman · 06-05-2016, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RichardJ

Has anyone switched from runflat to non runflats? Does it make much of a difference to ride and handling? If yes which non run flats are worth considering?

I've just fitted hankook ventus s1 evo2 k117 to my f30. I think it makes a difference especially on 20" 405m's.
They were a good price with same spec as mpss ie wet grip A etc.
An option to consider.
Got some slime and compressor in the boot.

tomosnake · 06-05-2016, 06:28 AM

I swapped on my now dearly departed F11 and the quality of the ride was much better. I'd like to do the same with the F30 when it arrives but as its only on lease for a short time, it won't be worth it. It's obviously your own personal choice but I had Goodyear Eagles on the F11 and had planned on replacing them with Dunlop Sport Maxx RT as they had very good reviews

teaston · 06-05-2016, 06:42 AM

Lots of us have switched to Michelin Pilot Super Sport non RFT's, they are great tyres!

Only others worth considering are the Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric's, although only the 2's are currently available in our sizes, they're yet to start making the new 3's in our sizes.

The new Continental Sport Contact 6's are available in our sizes, but early reviews indicate that like their predecessors they have a poor wear rate.

Rbrown · 06-05-2016, 07:14 AM

I've done it and it does improve the ride.

Just remember to get a can of gunk and compressor for "just in case"!

RichardJ · 06-05-2016, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rbrown

I've done it and it does improve the ride.

Just remember to get a can of gunk and compressor for "just in case"!

Yes that's a good idea on the gunk. What tyres did you go for?

Mattt1 · 06-05-2016, 12:52 PM

Any issue handing the car back or trading in with non RFT?

Rbrown · 06-05-2016, 01:31 PM

My winters are non run flats. Vredstein wintracs.

Back on summer RFTs just now. Once worn out, I will change them.

I think you need to return the car with RFTs on the car. But I may be wrong.

RichardJ · 06-05-2016, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rbrown

My winters are non run flats. Vredstein wintracs.

Back on summer RFTs just now. Once worn out, I will change them.

I think you need to return the car with RFTs on the car. But I may be wrong.

Is there much difference between the ride quality of summer runflats and winter non runflats?

Trialskings · 06-05-2016, 01:53 PM

Just moved to MPSS myself. The difference is amazing, though I believe any quality non run flat would offer a significant improvement in ride quality.

I was against the idea for a while but a fellow forum goer was selling 4 X 18" MPSS (fronts on mine) so I decided to go for it.

The dampers feel better able to control the wheel now, I often found the front end ran out of ability quickly with the colossal mass of run flat tyres to try & keep in check.

Rbrown · 06-05-2016, 01:55 PM

They are a bit less "crashy". It's probably a personal choice. I thought I would find it really bad going back to my summer RFT, but, to be honest, it's been ok.

It's probably what you are used to and how you feel about changing.

There are a few threads on here discussing pros and cons of both.

Good luck!

JD6 · 06-06-2016, 04:06 AM

I am just about to change my original Bridgestone Potenzas at just over 30k miles (about 10 of that on winters though).

I thought the MPSS was the only good option, although I do wonder about lack of rim protection from teaston's post on another thread. What is the current best available price anyone has found for a set of 19" MPSS?

cesare87 · 06-06-2016, 05:04 AM

Another vote for MPSS here.

Mattt1 · 06-06-2016, 12:05 PM

I've fitted Michelin Pilot Sport 4's to another car and have been impressed.

DougMcL · 06-06-2016, 01:01 PM

Can of gunk is next to useless. Get yourself one of these plus a compressor...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004JFZGRO/

E30toF30 · 06-06-2016, 02:09 PM

I recently switched to Ohtsu fp8000 summers (rebranded falken fk452) and they difference is night and day. Fantastic grip and car rides waaay better than the stock pirelli p zero runflats flats.

Best part about it, they are very economically priced tires! You being in the states, I believe these tires can be had ad for Around $400usd or so.

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tomosnake Private First Class 69 Rep 150 Posts Drives: F32 Join Date: May 2016 Location: Kent iTrader: (0)	I swapped on my now dearly departed F11 and the quality of the ride was much better. I'd like to do the same with the F30 when it arrives but as its only on lease for a short time, it won't be worth it. It's obviously your own personal choice but I had Goodyear Eagles on the F11 and had planned on replacing them with Dunlop Sport Maxx RT as they had very good reviews
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teaston Banned 10995 Rep 32,881 Posts Drives: X3 M40d Join Date: May 2012 Location: The High Seas iTrader: (1)	Lots of us have switched to Michelin Pilot Super Sport non RFT's, they are great tyres! Only others worth considering are the Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric's, although only the 2's are currently available in our sizes, they're yet to start making the new 3's in our sizes. The new Continental Sport Contact 6's are available in our sizes, but early reviews indicate that like their predecessors they have a poor wear rate.
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Rbrown Brigadier General 2766 Rep 4,577 Posts Drives: X3 M40i Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Glasgow iTrader: (0)	I've done it and it does improve the ride. Just remember to get a can of gunk and compressor for "just in case"!
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Mattt1 Lieutenant 81 Rep 568 Posts Drives: 335d xDrive Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Lincs iTrader: (0)	Any issue handing the car back or trading in with non RFT?
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Rbrown Brigadier General 2766 Rep 4,577 Posts Drives: X3 M40i Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Glasgow iTrader: (0)	My winters are non run flats. Vredstein wintracs. Back on summer RFTs just now. Once worn out, I will change them. I think you need to return the car with RFTs on the car. But I may be wrong.
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Trialskings Lieutenant 130 Rep 413 Posts Drives: Daddy Wagon Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Bristol iTrader: (0)	Just moved to MPSS myself. The difference is amazing, though I believe any quality non run flat would offer a significant improvement in ride quality. I was against the idea for a while but a fellow forum goer was selling 4 X 18" MPSS (fronts on mine) so I decided to go for it. The dampers feel better able to control the wheel now, I often found the front end ran out of ability quickly with the colossal mass of run flat tyres to try & keep in check.
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Rbrown Brigadier General 2766 Rep 4,577 Posts Drives: X3 M40i Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Glasgow iTrader: (0)	They are a bit less "crashy". It's probably a personal choice. I thought I would find it really bad going back to my summer RFT, but, to be honest, it's been ok. It's probably what you are used to and how you feel about changing. There are a few threads on here discussing pros and cons of both. Good luck!
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JD6 Major General 4271 Rep 6,945 Posts Drives: 840i GC + Mini Electric L3 Join Date: May 2014 Location: United Kingdom iTrader: (0)	I am just about to change my original Bridgestone Potenzas at just over 30k miles (about 10 of that on winters though). I thought the MPSS was the only good option, although I do wonder about lack of rim protection from teaston's post on another thread. What is the current best available price anyone has found for a set of 19" MPSS?
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cesare87 First Lieutenant 64 Rep 308 Posts Drives: 435i Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: uk iTrader: (0)	Another vote for MPSS here.
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Mattt1 Lieutenant 81 Rep 568 Posts Drives: 335d xDrive Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Lincs iTrader: (0)	I've fitted Michelin Pilot Sport 4's to another car and have been impressed.
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DougMcL Major 787 Rep 1,101 Posts Drives: BMW i4 40e, Honda Jazz Hybrid Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Porto iTrader: (0)	Can of gunk is next to useless. Get yourself one of these plus a compressor... https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004JFZGRO/
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E30toF30 Captain 122 Rep 749 Posts Drives: 2016 528i Executive Edition Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Vancouver iTrader: (1) Garage List 2002 BMW M3 [0.00] 2014 BMW X5 35d [0.00] 2016 BMW 528i xDrive [0.00]	I recently switched to Ohtsu fp8000 summers (rebranded falken fk452) and they difference is night and day. Fantastic grip and car rides waaay better than the stock pirelli p zero runflats flats. Best part about it, they are very economically priced tires! You being in the states, I believe these tires can be had ad for Around $400usd or so.
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