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      11-16-2016, 11:07 AM   #1
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BR-Performance - Flash Tune - On Request



We waited for quiet a long time to post our results as we are busy developing a lot of European cars atm.
But yesterday I read a lot of things on this forum about us so I decided it was time to put some of our results online.
I was hoping on better weather but it's raining 24h / 7 for the last 3 weeks...


Original power is around 370HP, after a tune, it's about 420HP.

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nothing... just a stock car with 98octane (EU Fuel)










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Impressive numbers if true. Don't think people were expecting +50hp. Is this with the stock downpipe? What kind of fuel?
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Very impressive, same question as LBBDrew fuel and mods besides the MPE?
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There is no doubt, the N55 is the M2 is HIGHLY tunable. Piggybacks are not effective. These cars need flash tunes.
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interesting.

start and stop deactivation. what else can you do? rev match deactivation?
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There is no doubt, the N55 is the M2 is HIGHLY tunable. Piggybacks are not effective. These cars need flash tunes.
I agree!

BR do you guys have vbox numbers before and after?
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If you're really marketing your products here as a vendor, please provide some concrete details. Supporting Mods, Octane #, PSI/rpm and AF/rpm would be the minimum that's requested to disclose.

You've been waiting and thinking for long before post the result, you must know curves and pictures mean little.
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      11-17-2016, 02:11 AM   #9
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There is no doubt, the N55 is the M2 is HIGHLY tunable. Piggybacks are not effective. These cars need flash tunes.
Disagree, depending on what you mean by "effective." Dinan's piggyback on the M235i, for example, is "effective" in the opinion of many who have driven that set-up with the bigger turbo.

Now, if you want to stick with the stock turbo, a good flash tune will be better, but gains will be limited by the relatively small headroom on that turbo, no matter how good the tune.
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Disagree, depending on what you mean by "effective." Dinan's piggyback on the M235i, for example, is "effective" in the opinion of many who have driven that set-up with the bigger turbo.

Now, if you want to stick with the stock turbo, a good flash tune will be better, but gains will be limited by the relatively small headroom on that turbo, no matter how good the tune.
Dinan's claimed result with turbo and all other supporting hardware, is close to BP's flesh tune which we assume is on a bone stock car (forget about MPE).

To be fair, if they're both honest and have a similar safe margin, which is possible given BP tune has a 5 year warranty, BP tune is clearly more effective.
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Impressive numbers if true. Don't think people were expecting +50hp. Is this with the stock downpipe? What kind of fuel?
Full stock cars, only MPE & 98 OCTANE (EU FUEL)


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interesting.
start and stop deactivation. what else can you do? rev match deactivation?
Haven't tried but if some1 would leave his car for a day or 2 we can probably deactivate that function yes.


  • pops&bangs
  • map switch
  • start-stop deactivation
  • exhaust flap control
  • catalyst heating (coldstart delete)


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I agree!

BR do you guys have vbox numbers before and after?
I assume the owner will do that once it stops raining


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If you're really marketing your products here as a vendor, please provide some concrete details. Supporting Mods, Octane #, PSI/rpm and AF/rpm would be the minimum that's requested to disclose.

You've been waiting and thinking for long before post the result, you must know curves and pictures mean little.

Sean... we don't market our products here as a vendor, we merely wanted to show the people the results. As we don't benefit from this at all. Don't forget we are a european company, not US...

If you would have looked good you would have noticed the boost/AFR/timing map pictures. Don't think many tuners show them as well...






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Sean... we don't market our products here as a vendor, we merely wanted to show the people the results. As we don't benefit from this at all. Don't forget we are a european company, not US...

If you would have looked good you would have noticed the boost/AFR/timing map pictures. Don't think many tuners show them as well...
I stand corrected, not coming from a tuner background, I easily neglect those 3D maps. Those are impressive results.
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I just want to hear the M2 with the pops&bang function.
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Oh yeah! Expect to get a call from me in the coming months!
A few questions:
- Is your "Map Switching / Multimap" thing available on the M2?
- How traceable is the remap (thinking in terms of warranty voiding)?
- Does the ECU have a "write count" which the dealerships can easily see?
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Disagree, depending on what you mean by "effective." Dinan's piggyback on the M235i, for example, is "effective" in the opinion of many who have driven that set-up with the bigger turbo.

Now, if you want to stick with the stock turbo, a good flash tune will be better, but gains will be limited by the relatively small headroom on that turbo, no matter how good the tune.
And I disagree with you..... Weve seen the piggy backs do nothing on M2, we are not talking about the 235 so no clue why you mention that, esp with a big turbo setup?

Euro guys have great results with flash tunes. We will see another graph this morning from a flash tune and I bet you call BS on that one too......

Yall crazy and blinded by the 235 and gains from the piggy's. These engines have something different to allow the torque and HP figures the flash tunes get. Maxing out is maxing out and these cars DEF MAX out much higher than a piggy 235 when flashed. FACT!
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Full stock cars, only MPE & 98 OCTANE (EU FUEL)


Any chance you meant 98 Ron (93 octane)?

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And I disagree with you..... Weve seen the piggy backs do nothing on M2, we are not talking about the 235 so no clue why you mention that, esp with a big turbo setup?

Euro guys have great results with flash tunes. We will see another graph this morning from a flash tune and I bet you call BS on that one too......

Yall crazy and blinded by the 235 and gains from the piggy's. These engines have something different to allow the torque and HP figures the flash tunes get. Maxing out is maxing out and these cars DEF MAX out much higher than a piggy 235 when flashed. FACT!
Because the 235 has an N55 engine, and with a big turbo you can get 400 to the wheels without a flash, and good driveability. So it's not the piggyback that's the problem so much as the stock turbo. Simple, really.
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Because the 235 has an N55 engine, and with a big turbo you can get 400 to the wheels without a flash, and good driveability. So it's not the piggyback that's the problem so much as the stock turbo. Simple, really.
so when u see 400 to the wheels on a flash only do u think its bs?? cause its that simple.....
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awesome to bad im so far away.

Do you guys tune remotely?
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I would lend you my car for rev match deactivation but im far away.

Can you guys tune remotely?
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There is no doubt, the N55 is the M2 is HIGHLY tunable. Piggybacks are not effective. These cars need flash tunes.
We will find out in a week how effective piggybacks are when I stick my steinbauer m2 on the dyno.
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370 stock/ 420 after tune obviously is bhp and not whp correct? My car got dynod stock and was at like 336whp that's why I ask. Just making sure here. Thanks! And awesome results and graphs. Pretty freakin cool to see all that. Now I just wish I understood it ALL lol.
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