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      12-22-2016, 08:01 PM   #1
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I Want More Power!!!

So recently I did some work on my car, CP, catless DP, 7" FMIC, Injen Air intake and currently running COBB STAGE 2 +FMIC. The car is definitely more powerful but I want more lol any idea, short of putting in a bigger turbo??
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VRSF seems to only make them for the N54
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Do you have access to E85 or feel like adding a meth kit?
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So recently I did some work on my car, CP, catless DP, 7" FMIC, Injen Air intake and currently running COBB STAGE 2 +FMIC. The car is definitely more powerful but I want more lol any idea, short of putting in a bigger turbo??
Jb4 , Methanol injection
Cobb maps are too conservative
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You need a more aggressive map (no jb4 needed to make power), and the supporting octane.
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LPFP upgrade, e85 mix, meth injection and MHD with a custom tune. Pure turbo inlet might help a little as well.
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LPFP upgrade, e85 mix, meth injection and MHD with a custom tune. Pure turbo inlet might help a little as well.
which LPFP brand do you recommend and do you need to know how to code DME's?
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which LPFP brand do you recommend and do you need to know how to code DME's?
fuel it or boostconcepts sells them
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which LPFP brand do you recommend and do you need to know how to code DME's?
Fuel-it is most popular and no.
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Do MHD actually make more power or does it simply deliver it in a more lineal manner?

I know that the E30 tune will be more than the Cobb's Stg 2, but what about the boosting, can it deliver higher boost than the Cobb?
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Do MHD actually make more power or does it simply deliver it in a more lineal manner?

I know that the E30 tune will be more than the Cobb's Stg 2, but what about the boosting, can it deliver higher boost than the Cobb?
MHD is better seeing how Cobb doesnt even update or support their BMW product anymore.

They are just tables that are inside the ECU.
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Get yourself and MHD set up. I switched from COBB with Pro Tuning Freaks custom tune and it doesn't compare to what the off the shelf maps the boys at MHD have put together. The power delivery is night and day and more fun to drive if you ask me.

Aside from being better maps the process to swap between maps is 2 min vs 10-20 COBB takes.

MHD just offer so much more flexibility and options. Also, get yourself an upgraded LPFP so E85 is not an issue.
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MHD is better seeing how Cobb doesnt even update or support their BMW product anymore.

They are just tables that are inside the ECU.
I have no doubt that MHD is better but I'm specifically asking about whether there is a power differential in the stage differences between the MHD and the Cobb.

I know MHD has an E30 map so I know that one will be more powerful than the Cobb's Stage 2 but how about the regular Stage 1 and Stage 2, does it produce more power than the Cobb?

That is the question.

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I have no doubt that MHD is better but I'm specifically asking about whether there is a power differential in the stage differences between the MHD and the Cobb.

I know MHD has an E30 map so I know that one will be more powerful than the Cobb's Stage 2 but how about the regular Stage 1 and Stage 2, does it produce more power than the Cobb?

That is the question.

Thanks
MHD has more tables for the tuner to modify that can produce power since that is all you seem to be aiming for. If you want a peak number, get a Jb4, they have been known to produce higher than flash only numbers, with shitty curves in torque. But hey, you got a high number.

At the last BMw dyno, the two N55s that were flash only, made 8 whp less than JB4/back end flash N55s, but we made 150 trq more, and sooner.
Mine made 422 whp, 500 trq, next runner up was N55 that made 430 whp, and 360 lbs of trq with JB4 and back end flash stack.
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MHD has more tables for the tuner to modify that can produce power since that is all you seem to be aiming for. If you want a peak number, get a Jb4, they have been known to produce higher than flash only numbers, with shitty curves in torque. But hey, you got a high number.

At the last BMw dyno, the two N55s that were flash only, made 8 whp less than JB4/back end flash N55s, but we made 150 trq more, and sooner.
Mine made 422 whp, 500 trq, next runner up was N55 that made 430 whp, and 360 lbs of trq with JB4 and back end flash stack.

Thanks for the info, no need to be upset with me about asking about the difference in the numbers, and no Power isn't the only thing I'm aiming for. I do realize that the MHD offers much more in terms of functionality and multiple maps as well as a more linear power delivery.

I asked you because I know that I could count on you for good information because that's mostly what I see from you on this forum and I welcome your expertise on this matter.

Thanks, I really do appreciate it.
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Get yourself and MHD set up. I switched from COBB with Pro Tuning Freaks custom tune and it doesn't compare to what the off the shelf maps the boys at MHD have put together. The power delivery is night and day and more fun to drive if you ask me.

Aside from being better maps the process to swap between maps is 2 min vs 10-20 COBB takes.

MHD just offer so much more flexibility and options. Also, get yourself an upgraded LPFP so E85 is not an issue.
did you install the LPFP yourself? is that all you need to run 100% E85?
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Thanks for the info, no need to be upset with me about asking about the difference in the numbers, and no Power isn't the only thing I'm aiming for. I do realize that the MHD offers much more in terms of functionality and multiple maps as well as a more linear power delivery.

I asked you because I know that I could count on you for good information because that's mostly what I see from you on this forum and I welcome your expertise on this matter.

Thanks, I really do appreciate it.
I'm not sure how that came off as "rude" or him being upset at you, but nonetheless, OTS for OTS MHD offers more power... among other things.

Cobb OTS maps are very conservative in comparison and were made in N55 tuning infancy. Albeit we're still not quite where we want to be yet, tuning wise, MHD has made significant strides since the early stages. Whether it be OTS maps or Custom tuning, there's more power (as well as better power delivery) to be had through MHD for reasons stated above and by previous posters. For reiterations sake, more parameters/tables are unlocked for more refined tuning purposes.

Unfortunately Cobb abandoned our platform, thus effectively relegating any Cobb AP to the duty of a fairly expensive paper weight.
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did you install the LPFP yourself? is that all you need to run 100% E85?
Need TBI or PI

LPFP was easy, like 15 minutes
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