[Sean_G]

Was just curious as to when this was going to drop.

[KD07]

Doubtful, if ever. And even if it does, it'll probably be too expensive to be worth it for us unless you were going big turbo and well over 500hp. Because it's located within the intake manifold, and is water:air instead of a traditional air:air, it will not be at all easy or cheap for manufacturers to fabricate one.

[lens]

Originally Posted by KD07

Doubtful, if ever. And even if it does, it'll probably be too expensive to be worth it for us unless you were going big turbo and well over 500hp. Because it's located within the intake manifold, and is water:air instead of a traditional air:air, it will not be at all easy or cheap for manufacturers to fabricate one.

Thr problem isn't the location, it's that it's integrated.

[KD07]

Originally Posted by chaungo

Thr problem isn't the location, it's that it's integrated.

Same thing. "Within" the manifold...

[lens]

Originally Posted by KD07

Same thing. "Within" the manifold...

Yeah can you imagine the cost of making a brand new intake manifold and swapping it? Would be high 3-4k.

[Thisisdudewhoru]

No real reason to unless it deems itself not able to adequately cool at higher power levels. Does anyone know if it's plumbed in with the radiator antifreeze or is it a it's own system?

It would be cool to see a bigger reservoir released if it's it's own system so you could put ice and stuff down in it.

[KD07]

Originally Posted by chaungo

Yeah can you imagine the cost of making a brand new intake manifold and swapping it? Would be high 3-4k.

Yeah exactly why we will probably never see it. I think manufacturers will start trying to integrate something into the charge pipe between the turbo and throttle body before attempting to fabricate a new manifold with a more efficient water:air intercooler. Or even adding a traditional intercooler like we all are used to. Even then though, still doubtful in my opinion we ever see any kind of aftermarket intercooler for the B58.

[Sean_G]

That's too bad that it'll be too expensive to release something. Was looking to doing the pure turbo with a new intercooler, but i guess that'll just save me some money now.

[KD07]

Originally Posted by Thisisdudewhoru

No real reason to unless it deems itself not able to adequately cool at higher power levels. Does anyone know if it's plumbed in with the radiator antifreeze or is it a it's own system?

It would be cool to see a bigger reservoir released if it's it's own system so you could put ice and stuff down in it.

Interesting point never thought of that. However, ice may not be a good idea. Once it melts enough to fit small pieces into the hoses it could cause problems. But I like where your heads at. Upgrading the reservoir seems like a much more plausible alternative.

[Thisisdudewhoru]

It'd be fine. People have been stuffing air to water intercooler reservoirs and heat exchanger reservoirs with ice for years

[KD07]

Originally Posted by Thisisdudewhoru

It'd be fine. People have been stuffing air to water intercooler reservoirs and heat exchanger reservoirs with ice for years

Sweet even better. I guess it would melt eventually so you're probably right

[Thisisdudewhoru]

Originally Posted by KD07

Sweet even better. I guess it would melt eventually so you're probably right

Yea whatever mixture of liquid you're using gets hot pretty quick and even when we were drag racing you could put fresh ice in nearly every 2 runs.

[kern417]

wouldn't it make more sense to upgrade the radiator?

[mike@x-ph.com]

I know couple companies looking into an upgraded intercooler option, they are still checking cost/demand and whether it is worth it or not

[SingleturboVert]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

I know couple companies looking into an upgraded intercooler option, they are still checking cost/demand and whether it is worth it or not

That would be interesting to see. It would definitely be a much more expensive ordeal and likely incorporate an entire package. Someone needs to come up with the 'standard' for where the plumbing should go.

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by Sean_G

Was just curious as to when this was going to drop.

There are a few in the works, but its not as simple as previous cars.

Mike

[kern417]

Originally Posted by kern417

wouldn't it make more sense to upgrade the radiator?

Looks like I was right. This was just announced.
https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1514149

[daveyfx]

Got it. So the heat exchanger for the IC is integrated with the radiator?

[B58]

W/M for cooling and octane boost... much cheaper route.

[kern417]

Originally Posted by daveyfx

Got it. So the heat exchanger for the IC is integrated with the radiator?

The radiator is the IC heat exchanger.

Originally Posted by ericbilt

W/M for cooling and octane boost... much cheaper route.

IMO because of the location of the IC it's not as good or efficient in our application. Even if you cool below ambient, the warmer IC will transfer some heat in the wrong direction and warm it back up. You'd have to install the meth after the intercooler, which will net little to no temp reduction since it's right by the combustion chamber.

[B58]

Originally Posted by kern417

The radiator is the IC heat exchanger.



IMO because of the location of the IC it's not as good or efficient in our application. Even if you cool below ambient, the warmer IC will transfer some heat in the wrong direction and warm it back up. You'd have to install the meth after the intercooler, which will net little to no temp reduction since it's right by the combustion chamber.

Understandable. The farther away the better it cools and the closer to the throttle plate the more octane boost... at least from my understanding when I was running W/M on my VW.

[rahlow]

Originally Posted by kern417

Looks like I was right. This was just announced.
https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1514149

Would purchasing that radiator do anything in terms of power though? I'm looking for hp, screw everything else. It already has looks and I can get new rims down the line.