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      02-01-2017, 12:36 PM   #1
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Question Estimate time for VRSF Intercooler, Chargepipe, and a BoV install by Tune shop

Recently got the JB4 and VRSF Down pipes installed i've been waiting for and very happy with the gains I've acquired from them. I know it's early and probably won't do this for a few months, but how long on average would you guys say it should take to install the above subject parts on a N55 11' 335i with xdrive by an experienced tune shop?
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Recently got the JB4 and VRSF Down pipes installed i've been waiting for and very happy with the gains I've acquired from them. I know it's early and probably won't do this for a few months, but how long on average would you guys say it should take to install the above subject parts on a N55 11' 335i with xdrive by an experienced tune shop?
I'm sure others will chime in with the same thing....save yourself a few $$$ and handle the chargepipe and BOV yourself. It should not take much more than an hour if you've done the research and have the right tools. Plus it's good to know what goes where and how to trouble shoot if something goes wrong down the line. Just my .02

If I remember correctly I paid for 2 hours of labor for my FMIC install.
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No BOV on an N55. Charge pipe takes like 20 minutes, so do that yourself. Downpipe on an x-drive can be tricky, but 3 hours is a good starting point.
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No BOV on an N55. Charge pipe takes like 20 minutes, so do that yourself. Downpipe on an x-drive can be tricky, but 3 hours is a good starting point.
he is adding a BOV with his charge pipe installation and removing the DVs.
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No BOV on an N55. Charge pipe takes like 20 minutes, so do that yourself. Downpipe on an x-drive can be tricky, but 3 hours is a good starting point.
he is adding a BOV with his charge pipe installation and removing the DVs.
And JB4 and DP's are done already.
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he is adding a BOV with his charge pipe installation and removing the DVs.
Again, this is an N55 so you don't add a BOV to it. E series N55 can't run maf-less yet. You keep the stock DV which is located inside the turbo.

My mistake it was the FMIC that wasn't done. Agreed that is pretty easy to do yourself.
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And JB4 and DP's are done already.
Correct, and I was about to say I've seen many N55s with BoVs with charge pipes haha. I just got the dps and tune done yesterday. Probably ordering/installing other parts around May probably.
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Again, this is an N55 so you don't add a BOV to it. E series N55 can't run maf-less yet. You keep the stock DV which is located inside the turbo.

My mistake it was the FMIC that wasn't done. Agreed that is pretty easy to do yourself.
How do you like your Pure Stage 1 Turbo? My tune shop is suggesting it after the FMIC/chargepipe step. How ugly was the labor fees for you?
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Intercooler is a 2 hour diy, depends on which size you get for how much cutting is needed. There is an upgraded DV from Go Fast Bits. Do not get a charge pipe with a BOV. You would need to block off the DV port and get an electrically actuated vacuum source for the BOV. Standard charge pipe is a 20min install.
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How do you like your Pure Stage 1 Turbo? My tune shop is suggesting it after the FMIC/chargepipe step. How ugly was the labor fees for you?
Skip the stage 1 and go right to the stage 2. It is a bitch to do, I did it myself. I bought the first batch of PS1 out so there was no PS2 at the time. I will be upgrading in the near future now that we have MHD available. I will add PI so I can run straight E85 too.
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Skip the stage 1 and go right to the stage 2. It is a bitch to do, I did it myself. I bought the first batch of PS1 out so there was no PS2 at the time. I will be upgrading in the near future now that we have MHD available. I will add PI so I can run straight E85 too.
Currently my 335i is my only vehicle at the moment and I need it to be reliable, but from what I hear Pure turbos are quite reliable as long as you have correct supporting components/mods. I'm in the process of finding new work soon because money isn't the greatest right now, but probably will just wait till I'm pretty secure financially to do a turbo upgrade and go with the best instead of starting small then wanting more eventually.
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Recently got the JB4 and VRSF Down pipes installed i've been waiting for and very happy with the gains I've acquired from them. I know it's early and probably won't do this for a few months, but how long on average would you guys say it should take to install the above subject parts on a N55 11' 335i with xdrive by an experienced tune shop?
I installed all of the above part my self at one of my friends shop. The FMIC took at 30min all together. Also, I had the 7' FMIC and I had to trim out some stuff behind the bumper which in my opinion was a lot but no way around it. CP and BOV take less than hour, removing intake housing probably takes the longest..

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No BOV on an N55. Charge pipe takes like 20 minutes, so do that yourself. Downpipe on an x-drive can be tricky, but 3 hours is a good starting point.
DP are killer job on xdrive. I did my own and honestly it was a lot of work , I remember thinking to myself "why didn't i buy RWD" lol
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Skip the stage 1 and go right to the stage 2. It is a bitch to do, I did it myself. I bought the first batch of PS1 out so there was no PS2 at the time. I will be upgrading in the near future now that we have MHD available. I will add PI so I can run straight E85 too.
I'm going pure stage 2 this summer but how come you mentioned the MHD as part of the reason you want to upgrade? nad if you dont mind me asking what PI are you looking to get?
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DP are killer job on xdrive. I did my own and honestly it was a lot of work , I remember thinking to myself "why didn't i buy RWD" lol
I live in western PA and we can have some bad winters that's why I got and glad I have Xdrive...only time I regret it is when I had to pay the extra hours of labor when I got the VRSF cat back modification and the extra time it takes to install the DPs recently. Other than that I'm cool with it. Launches and pulls like an animal. Can't wait till I have it around 400-450whp haha
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I live in western PA and we can have some bad winters that's why I got and glad I have Xdrive...only time I regret it is when I had to pay the extra hours of labor when I got the VRSF cat back modification and the extra time it takes to install the DPs recently. Other than that I'm cool with it. Launches and pulls like an animal. Can't wait till I have it around 400-450whp haha
yeah, I honestly only regrets were when I installed the DP lol otherwise the car is a blast..
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I'm going pure stage 2 this summer but how come you mentioned the MHD as part of the reason you want to upgrade? nad if you dont mind me asking what PI are you looking to get?
MHD is going to dominate the tunes shortly. I have had the JB4 for several years, but it really is a pretty crude solution. It gets the job done fairly well, but it is just fudging sensor numbers and lying to the ECU. Before MHD it was the way to go, but now mhd and jb4 are pretty equal. MHD is still in its infancy though and will continue to pull away. Vanos and valvetronic have barely been played with.

There are a couple of lower priced PI solutions that just came on the market, I will probably go with them and a stage 2 lpfp with ethanol sensor from fuel-it. I will limit torque to 500 and hp will probably be 520 or so. I don't want to kill the auto or x-drive system too early :P
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Recently got the JB4 and VRSF Down pipes installed i've been waiting for and very happy with the gains I've acquired from them. I know it's early and probably won't do this for a few months, but how long on average would you guys say it should take to install the above subject parts on a N55 11' 335i with xdrive by an experienced tune shop?
Charge pipe and intercooler can be done in 2.5 hours
If shop is experience 2 hours
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Correct, and I was about to say I've seen many N55s with BoVs with charge pipes haha. I just got the dps and tune done yesterday. Probably ordering/installing other parts around May probably.
You probably saw a N54 as the N55 has their Diverter valve on the turbo and the N54 charge pipe wouldnt even fit a N55

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